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Updating Office 2003 problem?
Greetings all,
I tried to help my mother In Law update Word by telephone, and had no luck. It was a rough going over the phone, but it appears we were able to do all except the final step(s). When she clicked to start the update, she got a message in her browser saying that she needed ActiveX turned on (OUCH). We ALL learned the hard way about ActiveX, and no one in the family uses it anymore. In fact, some have switched to Open Office. Rather then get grandma up to speed on OO, we'd like to have her use WORD as she is familiar with it and several other of the Office programs. Is there anyway to update Office (2003) without using an ActiveX capable browser?? It was a very pricey software package, yet she has never updated it.....It seems odd that there is no other way to update WORD, but the help file doesn't give any other option(s). Have I missed something, or should we just give up and convert her to OO now rather than have her run WORD without updates? Thanks, Ari |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:07:42 -0800, "garfield-n-odie [MVP]"
wrote: Not sure what you mean by "learned the hard way about ActiveX", because millions of users don't have problems with it. Are you serious? You never heard of ActiveX problems, which can, worst case....allow browser hijacking/redirection leading to identity theft, lost credit and other unattractive social and monetary problems? For us, the decision was easy, we simply stopped using IE, after realizing there were viable options such as Firefox. No worry about ActiveX, internet zone settings and list of exceptions. I was concerned to learn that WORD update via the interment required one to enable ActiveX in order to download updates to WORD. MIL paid lots of money for it, and she has to compromise her security to download updates??!! Really? You can learn about ActiveX on the internet, there are quite a few websites that explain the dangers. If you are really and genuinely unaware of this issue, you should probably NOT be offering advice to others:: We have used Pagemaker here because we are involved in Custom Publishing, otherwise we'd be more current on WORD updating issues. I'll try to download WORD updates manually to my non WORD capable and Firefox browser based system. If we can download the files without having WORD on our system, we can surely burn them to a CD and mail them to grandma. She needs to have updates in order to protect her security. Within the last year, we stopped using Outlook, Outlook Express, IE, Windows Messenger etc. Maybe it's time to suggest to grandma that WORD should be replaced with OO. I'd prefer to keep her in WORD since she already bought it though. I'll see if I can find instructions on how to manually update Office 03 on microsoft. GL to you. Ari |
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Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:07:42 -0800 from garfield-n-odie [MVP]
: Not sure what you mean by "learned the hard way about ActiveX", because millions of users don't have problems with it. You're an MVP, and you don't know about the many security problems? Wow! Here's a paper by CERT on the risks: http://www.cert.org/reports/activeX_report.pdf. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com/ |
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That was my exact impression as well, not sure if the guy is a troll
or not. I'm new to this NG, so I don't know the trolls here. I looked at the document you gave the link for. A bunch of it is relevant to the OS, not necessarily to online browsing....but I was stunned to see the far reaching implications of ActiveX. I had no idea it was so deeply imbedded into the OS, I had thought it to be primarily a browser/online issue. I also found the date of the original document interesting......these vunerabilities have existed since 2000 when the cert study was done.....another eye opener. I don't want to get thrown off the NG, so I'm going to try as much as possible to stick to the original purpose of my post. But, thanks for opening my eyes. We have a new system here and want to make it secure BEFORE we start using it to do real work online....not after:: Regards, Ari Not sure what you mean by "learned the hard way about ActiveX", because millions of users don't have problems with it. You're an MVP, and you don't know about the many security problems? Wow! Here's a paper by CERT on the risks: http://www.cert.org/reports/activeX_report.pdf. |
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Hi Ari,
You can download the updates from http://office.microsoft.com/downloads and not use the 'check for updates' option, but click down to the updates section after selecting your version of Office. However, with the new Microsoft 'authentication' it may or may not require a Control to be downloaded as well. ====== wrote in message ... Greetings all, I tried to help my mother In Law update Word by telephone, and had no luck. It was a rough going over the phone, but it appears we were able to do all except the final step(s). When she clicked to start the update, she got a message in her browser saying that she needed ActiveX turned on (OUCH). We ALL learned the hard way about ActiveX, and no one in the family uses it anymore. In fact, some have switched to Open Office. Rather then get grandma up to speed on OO, we'd like to have her use WORD as she is familiar with it and several other of the Office programs. Is there anyway to update Office (2003) without using an ActiveX capable browser?? It was a very pricey software package, yet she has never updated it.....It seems odd that there is no other way to update WORD, but the help file doesn't give any other option(s). Have I missed something, or should we just give up and convert her to OO now rather than have her run WORD without updates? Thanks, Ari -- Let us know if this helped you, Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends Pricing and Packages for '2007 Microsoft Office System' http://microsoft.com/office/preview |
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