Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the contextmenu of
the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to add
additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the former
version to an archive (or make the former version no longer direct available
(don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already mentioned
keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with the
central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

There are quite a few that do bits of what you describe. The key problem is
most of the time, the users won't play ball. Although it's possible to set
up a system do do all these things automatically, a lot of the time users
just want to create a one-off, throw-away document that isn't part of the
control system; but to support that you need to make the control optional,
and then users forget to use it. (How would you feel about a hard copy
filing system that insisted you file *every* piece of paper?)

Have a look at SharePoint, Documentum, Interleave, and any other links you
can find that refer to those products.




"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in message
...
Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the contextmenu of
the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to add
additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the former
version to an archive (or make the former version no longer direct
available (don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already mentioned
keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with the
central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

Hi,

i know that users don't want to register there document, thats why we want
to 'force' them.
Not knowing that another users have made changes on essential documents
costs more than to
'force' everyone to register there documents.

Someone any other suggestions ?






"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
There are quite a few that do bits of what you describe. The key problem
is most of the time, the users won't play ball. Although it's possible to
set up a system do do all these things automatically, a lot of the time
users just want to create a one-off, throw-away document that isn't part
of the control system; but to support that you need to make the control
optional, and then users forget to use it. (How would you feel about a
hard copy filing system that insisted you file *every* piece of paper?)

Have a look at SharePoint, Documentum, Interleave, and any other links you
can find that refer to those products.




"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the contextmenu
of the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to add
additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the former
version to an archive (or make the former version no longer direct
available (don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already mentioned
keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with the
central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

You do like banging your head against a wall don't you? What you're trying
to do just doesn't work. All that happens is that people will start calling
you the document nazi.



"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in message
...
Hi,

i know that users don't want to register there document, thats why we want
to 'force' them.
Not knowing that another users have made changes on essential documents
costs more than to
'force' everyone to register there documents.

Someone any other suggestions ?






"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
There are quite a few that do bits of what you describe. The key problem
is most of the time, the users won't play ball. Although it's possible to
set up a system do do all these things automatically, a lot of the time
users just want to create a one-off, throw-away document that isn't part
of the control system; but to support that you need to make the control
optional, and then users forget to use it. (How would you feel about a
hard copy filing system that insisted you file *every* piece of paper?)

Have a look at SharePoint, Documentum, Interleave, and any other links
you can find that refer to those products.




"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the contextmenu
of the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to add
additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the former
version to an archive (or make the former version no longer direct
available (don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already mentioned
keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with the
central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

Jez: I do so LOVE your directness.
*******************
~Anne Troy

www.OfficeArticles.com


"Jezebel" wrote in message
...
You do like banging your head against a wall don't you? What you're trying
to do just doesn't work. All that happens is that people will start
calling
you the document nazi.



"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message
...
Hi,

i know that users don't want to register there document, thats why we
want
to 'force' them.
Not knowing that another users have made changes on essential documents
costs more than to
'force' everyone to register there documents.

Someone any other suggestions ?






"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
There are quite a few that do bits of what you describe. The key
problem
is most of the time, the users won't play ball. Although it's possible
to
set up a system do do all these things automatically, a lot of the time
users just want to create a one-off, throw-away document that isn't
part
of the control system; but to support that you need to make the control
optional, and then users forget to use it. (How would you feel about a
hard copy filing system that insisted you file *every* piece of paper?)

Have a look at SharePoint, Documentum, Interleave, and any other links
you can find that refer to those products.




"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the
contextmenu
of the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to
add
additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the former
version to an archive (or make the former version no longer direct
available (don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already mentioned
keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with the
central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

So, whats new ??

When attend people to follow the rules they wanted, this is always the case.
Im not affraid for that.
(Sorry, im already the company monster, but i don't mind)


"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
You do like banging your head against a wall don't you? What you're trying
to do just doesn't work. All that happens is that people will start
calling you the document nazi.



"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Hi,

i know that users don't want to register there document, thats why we
want to 'force' them.
Not knowing that another users have made changes on essential documents
costs more than to
'force' everyone to register there documents.

Someone any other suggestions ?






"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
There are quite a few that do bits of what you describe. The key problem
is most of the time, the users won't play ball. Although it's possible
to set up a system do do all these things automatically, a lot of the
time users just want to create a one-off, throw-away document that isn't
part of the control system; but to support that you need to make the
control optional, and then users forget to use it. (How would you feel
about a hard copy filing system that insisted you file *every* piece of
paper?)

Have a look at SharePoint, Documentum, Interleave, and any other links
you can find that refer to those products.




"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the contextmenu
of the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to
add additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the former
version to an archive (or make the former version no longer direct
available (don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already mentioned
keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with the
central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

Gegen der Dummheit kämpfen die Götter selbst vergebens.



"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in message
...
So, whats new ??

When attend people to follow the rules they wanted, this is always the
case. Im not affraid for that.
(Sorry, im already the company monster, but i don't mind)


"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
You do like banging your head against a wall don't you? What you're
trying to do just doesn't work. All that happens is that people will
start calling you the document nazi.



"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Hi,

i know that users don't want to register there document, thats why we
want to 'force' them.
Not knowing that another users have made changes on essential documents
costs more than to
'force' everyone to register there documents.

Someone any other suggestions ?






"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
There are quite a few that do bits of what you describe. The key
problem is most of the time, the users won't play ball. Although it's
possible to set up a system do do all these things automatically, a lot
of the time users just want to create a one-off, throw-away document
that isn't part of the control system; but to support that you need to
make the control optional, and then users forget to use it. (How would
you feel about a hard copy filing system that insisted you file *every*
piece of paper?)

Have a look at SharePoint, Documentum, Interleave, and any other links
you can find that refer to those products.




"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the
contextmenu of the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to
add additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the former
version to an archive (or make the former version no longer direct
available (don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already mentioned
keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with the
central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

Ach, jemand soll es machen !


"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
Gegen der Dummheit kämpfen die Götter selbst vergebens.



"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
So, whats new ??

When attend people to follow the rules they wanted, this is always the
case. Im not affraid for that.
(Sorry, im already the company monster, but i don't mind)


"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
You do like banging your head against a wall don't you? What you're
trying to do just doesn't work. All that happens is that people will
start calling you the document nazi.



"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Hi,

i know that users don't want to register there document, thats why we
want to 'force' them.
Not knowing that another users have made changes on essential documents
costs more than to
'force' everyone to register there documents.

Someone any other suggestions ?






"Jezebel" schreef in bericht
...
There are quite a few that do bits of what you describe. The key
problem is most of the time, the users won't play ball. Although it's
possible to set up a system do do all these things automatically, a
lot of the time users just want to create a one-off, throw-away
document that isn't part of the control system; but to support that
you need to make the control optional, and then users forget to use
it. (How would you feel about a hard copy filing system that insisted
you file *every* piece of paper?)

Have a look at SharePoint, Documentum, Interleave, and any other links
you can find that refer to those products.




"Kees van Amerongen" wrote in
message ...
Is there a software package outhere that can solve our wishlist ?


Wishlist :
1.. Add-on for MsWord, Excel and Powerpoint, including the
contextmenu of the Windows Explorer
2.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be an generated
versionnumber in the documentsname.
3.. When using "Save" or "Save as" there should be a possibility to
add additional information (keywords) in a database.
including giving 'rights' to users/usergroups
4.. When saving a already existing document, then transfer the
former version to an archive (or make the former version no longer
direct available (don't delete it))
5.. When deleting a document, place the last version in a archive.
6.. Integration with the Windows Explorer
7.. Central database with posibilitys to search the already
mentioned keywords.
8.. Possibility to work off-line, and afterwards synchronise with
the central database.
9.. Option to read existing directories and add the documents to the
database (including a versionnumber to the documentsname).
10.. Adding rights to users/usergroups (see point 3)
11.. Open database (for example ODBC database of other thru Delphi
available database)

Optional:
a.. Searchoptions within the documents.
b.. Web-interface

Nice to have
a.. Open architecture (COM interface)

Thanks for your input

Kees van Amerongen
Netherlands

Jezebel shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.docmanagement:

You do like banging your head against a wall don't you? What you're
trying to do just doesn't work. All that happens is that people will
start calling you the document nazi.

Godwin was here. Thread stops here.

--
Amedee Van Gasse

Hmm. I don't think that use of the word "nazi" is equivalent to mentioning
Hitler (but now I have). g

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Amedee Van Gasse" wrote in message
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Jezebel shared this with us in microsoft.public.word.docmanagement:

You do like banging your head against a wall don't you? What you're
trying to do just doesn't work. All that happens is that people will
start calling you the document nazi.

Godwin was here. Thread stops here.

--
Amedee Van Gasse