[JR SilverFox]

Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and body of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[Herb Tyson [MVP]]

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007. Instead, it's now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal view. IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon (Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still be updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and body of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[JR SilverFox]

Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and I agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header fields to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007. Instead, it's now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal view. IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon (Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still be updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and body of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer (regardless of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options [or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007. Instead, it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and body of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[JR SilverFox]

Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot now select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer (regardless of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options [or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007. Instead, it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and body of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I can't answer that, I'm afraid.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer (regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options [or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007. Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal
view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and
body of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[Herb Tyson [MVP]]

I don't know why it's not working for you -- it works fine here. Since it's
beta software, though, it's possible that there is some local condition
that's preventing it from working for you.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer (regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options [or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007. Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and body
of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[JR SilverFox]

Thanks Suzanne and Herb.
Yes, of course, it is beta software but pretty solid from my experience.
The only strange thing I have found when working in compatibility mode is
that a document containing a 'Vertical Text Box' cannot be successfully save
as '97-2003' format as 2007 treats these boxes differently. Otherwise I like
the product very much - it is noticeably faster to scroll through documents!

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I don't know why it's not working for you -- it works fine here. Since it's
beta software, though, it's possible that there is some local condition
that's preventing it from working for you.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer (regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options [or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007. Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and body
of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[Herb Tyson [MVP]]

What do you mean by "Vertical Text Box"?

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne and Herb.
Yes, of course, it is beta software but pretty solid from my experience.
The only strange thing I have found when working in compatibility mode is
that a document containing a 'Vertical Text Box' cannot be successfully
save
as '97-2003' format as 2007 treats these boxes differently. Otherwise I
like
the product very much - it is noticeably faster to scroll through
documents!

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I don't know why it's not working for you -- it works fine here. Since
it's
beta software, though, it's possible that there is some local condition
that's preventing it from working for you.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous
versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer
(regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options [or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in
message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and
I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007.
Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal
view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still
be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in
my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and
body
of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[JR SilverFox]

I have a document with three inserted items all containing line diagrams.
There is a prompt displayed BLHC of the screen: Double click to edit , or run
slide show as appropriate. One is a Powerpoint slide and two are Powerpoint
Presentations. Only one of the presentations (consisting of one slide) causes
the Word Compatibility Checker to report 'Vertical Text Boxes will not render
correctly in older versions of Word' when trying to save the document.
Admitedly this is the most complex of the three diagrams but I am unable to
see why only this one causes the problem.
Any ideas Herb?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

What do you mean by "Vertical Text Box"?

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne and Herb.
Yes, of course, it is beta software but pretty solid from my experience.
The only strange thing I have found when working in compatibility mode is
that a document containing a 'Vertical Text Box' cannot be successfully
save
as '97-2003' format as 2007 treats these boxes differently. Otherwise I
like
the product very much - it is noticeably faster to scroll through
documents!

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I don't know why it's not working for you -- it works fine here. Since
it's
beta software, though, it's possible that there is some local condition
that's preventing it from working for you.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous
versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer
(regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options [or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in
message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal', and
I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007.
Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal
view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should still
be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields in
my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header and
body
of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[Herb Tyson [MVP]]

I haven't seen that particular message. But, I don't often work with
Powerpoint slides inside Word documents.

I tried a variety of insertion techniques for a variety of different
PowerPoint slides & whole presentations, but wasn't able to trigger that
particular compatibility message.

How were they inserted?

If you'd care to send me an example, I can take a look. Send to pp-problem
(at) herb.thetysons.org, replacing (at) with the necessary email character,
of course.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
I have a document with three inserted items all containing line diagrams.
There is a prompt displayed BLHC of the screen: Double click to edit , or
run
slide show as appropriate. One is a Powerpoint slide and two are
Powerpoint
Presentations. Only one of the presentations (consisting of one slide)
causes
the Word Compatibility Checker to report 'Vertical Text Boxes will not
render
correctly in older versions of Word' when trying to save the document.
Admitedly this is the most complex of the three diagrams but I am unable
to
see why only this one causes the problem.
Any ideas Herb?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

What do you mean by "Vertical Text Box"?

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne and Herb.
Yes, of course, it is beta software but pretty solid from my
experience.
The only strange thing I have found when working in compatibility mode
is
that a document containing a 'Vertical Text Box' cannot be successfully
save
as '97-2003' format as 2007 treats these boxes differently. Otherwise I
like
the product very much - it is noticeably faster to scroll through
documents!

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I don't know why it's not working for you -- it works fine here. Since
it's
beta software, though, it's possible that there is some local
condition
that's preventing it from working for you.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in
message
...
Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot
now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous
versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer
(regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options
[or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in
message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal',
and
I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the
old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007.
Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal
view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused
in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most
icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should
still
be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" JR wrote
in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields
in
my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header
and
body
of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like
to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[JR SilverFox]

Hi Herb,
Insertion method was InsertObjectFrom File.
I have experimented further and deleting the object and re-inserting it
clears the problem. I also tried 'Open' ing the presentation from within Word
(2002 and 2007) - both were successful, whilst 'Edit' caused an error in
both! - 'Not a vaid embedded object' about 2-3 seconds after displaying the
object in an editing frame.
I guess I have now answered my own question - the Compatibility Checker
obviously does a good job!.
Sorry to have taken so much of your time.
Regards, JR

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I haven't seen that particular message. But, I don't often work with
Powerpoint slides inside Word documents.

I tried a variety of insertion techniques for a variety of different
PowerPoint slides & whole presentations, but wasn't able to trigger that
particular compatibility message.

How were they inserted?

If you'd care to send me an example, I can take a look. Send to pp-problem
(at) herb.thetysons.org, replacing (at) with the necessary email character,
of course.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
I have a document with three inserted items all containing line diagrams.
There is a prompt displayed BLHC of the screen: Double click to edit , or
run
slide show as appropriate. One is a Powerpoint slide and two are
Powerpoint
Presentations. Only one of the presentations (consisting of one slide)
causes
the Word Compatibility Checker to report 'Vertical Text Boxes will not
render
correctly in older versions of Word' when trying to save the document.
Admitedly this is the most complex of the three diagrams but I am unable
to
see why only this one causes the problem.
Any ideas Herb?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

What do you mean by "Vertical Text Box"?

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
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"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
Thanks Suzanne and Herb.
Yes, of course, it is beta software but pretty solid from my
experience.
The only strange thing I have found when working in compatibility mode
is
that a document containing a 'Vertical Text Box' cannot be successfully
save
as '97-2003' format as 2007 treats these boxes differently. Otherwise I
like
the product very much - it is noticeably faster to scroll through
documents!

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I don't know why it's not working for you -- it works fine here. Since
it's
beta software, though, it's possible that there is some local
condition
that's preventing it from working for you.

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"JR SilverFox" wrote in
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Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot
now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous
versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer
(regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools | Options
[or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"JR SilverFox" wrote in
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Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old 'Normal',
and
I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as the
old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007.
Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as Normal
view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so overused
in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most
icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should
still
be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

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"JR SilverFox" JR wrote
in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all fields
in
my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header
and
body
of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would like
to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.

[Herb Tyson [MVP]]

If I--and others--weren't willing to invest the time and didn't enough
troubleshooting and problem solving, we wouldn't be here doing it. So,
apologies aren't needed. Each time I investigate something -- even if I
don't resolve the issue -- I learn something I didn't already know, giving
me future ammunition for other problems.

Cheers,

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"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
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Hi Herb,
Insertion method was InsertObjectFrom File.
I have experimented further and deleting the object and re-inserting it
clears the problem. I also tried 'Open' ing the presentation from within
Word
(2002 and 2007) - both were successful, whilst 'Edit' caused an error in
both! - 'Not a vaid embedded object' about 2-3 seconds after displaying
the
object in an editing frame.
I guess I have now answered my own question - the Compatibility Checker
obviously does a good job!.
Sorry to have taken so much of your time.
Regards, JR

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I haven't seen that particular message. But, I don't often work with
Powerpoint slides inside Word documents.

I tried a variety of insertion techniques for a variety of different
PowerPoint slides & whole presentations, but wasn't able to trigger that
particular compatibility message.

How were they inserted?

If you'd care to send me an example, I can take a look. Send to
pp-problem
(at) herb.thetysons.org, replacing (at) with the necessary email
character,
of course.

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"JR SilverFox" wrote in message
...
I have a document with three inserted items all containing line
diagrams.
There is a prompt displayed BLHC of the screen: Double click to edit ,
or
run
slide show as appropriate. One is a Powerpoint slide and two are
Powerpoint
Presentations. Only one of the presentations (consisting of one slide)
causes
the Word Compatibility Checker to report 'Vertical Text Boxes will not
render
correctly in older versions of Word' when trying to save the document.
Admitedly this is the most complex of the three diagrams but I am
unable
to
see why only this one causes the problem.
Any ideas Herb?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

What do you mean by "Vertical Text Box"?

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"JR SilverFox" wrote in
message
...
Thanks Suzanne and Herb.
Yes, of course, it is beta software but pretty solid from my
experience.
The only strange thing I have found when working in compatibility
mode
is
that a document containing a 'Vertical Text Box' cannot be
successfully
save
as '97-2003' format as 2007 treats these boxes differently.
Otherwise I
like
the product very much - it is noticeably faster to scroll through
documents!

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I don't know why it's not working for you -- it works fine here.
Since
it's
beta software, though, it's possible that there is some local
condition
that's preventing it from working for you.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along.
"JR SilverFox" wrote in
message
...
Thanks Suzanne! It works a treat.
But it leaves my question; was it a considered change? - I cannot
now
select
the content of a header (in draft mode) where I could in previous
versions
using 'normal' view.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Print Preview should update all fields in the header/footer
(regardless
of
the setting of "Update fields" on the Print tab of Tools |
Options
[or
whatever the Word 2007 equivalent is]).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JR SilverFox" wrote in
message
...
Thanks Herb,
Yeah, I had found draft mode as the closest to the old
'Normal',
and
I
agree
that 'Normal' is an overused term.
I checked again but that doesn't update the header fields as
the
old
'Normal' used to.
I went through all the obvious views and could not get the
header
fields
to
update. Is there a setting I may have wrong?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

Notice that there is no Normal view, per se, in Word 2007.
Instead,
it's
now
called Draft view, although it's essentially the same as
Normal
view.
IMO,
this is an improvement, since the word "normal" is so
overused
in
Word
parlance. But, it does make "normal" view hard to
discover...

In the views section of the Status bar, click the right-most
icon
(Draft),
press Ctrl+A, F9, and fields in headers and footers should
still
be
updated,
just as in previous versions of Word.

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
http://www.herbtyson.com
Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow
along.
"JR SilverFox" JR
wrote
in
message
...
Select All text in 'Normal' view no longer selects header
and
footer.
I used to use ViewNormal, ctrlA, F9 to update all
fields
in
my
documents
which use fields to insert custom properties in the header
and
body
of
documents.
I cannot find a way to select All as in 2000, 2002, 2003.
Have I missed a setting?
I know I can use Print Preview to achieve this but would
like
to
understand
why this functionality seems to have been removed.