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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
Howdy, I run Word 2000 SP3, and can't seem to get it to point to the correct Normal.dot. Here are the details: This is a new installation (I toasted my old desktop). A search of the complete system shows that I have only one Normal.dot in a folder called F:\Templates. In Word's Tools | Options | File Locations I have set both User Templates and Workgroup Templates to F:\Templates. If I simply launch Word, it defaults to the font that I use in the intended Normal.dot, but if I then look in Tools | Macro | Macros, none appear (and I have a ton.) If, instead, I close Word, navigate to the only copy of Normal.dot I have, and double click on its icon, Word Launches, but then when I look in Tools | Macro | Macros is shows "Normal.dot (global template)" in the dropdown and the Macros field blank. If I then drop down the dot field and click on "Normal.dot (Template)", the Macros field populates. So (and with apologies if all this is too much detail), it seems that word somehow sees two different versions of Normal.dot one of which is a "global template" and the other just a plain ol' "template." That latter one is the one that I want Word to use. Can you help me to do that? Very sincere thanks, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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I think you'll find that there really are two Normal.dot templates, but one
of them is in a hidden folder. The default installation places your User Templates location at C:\Documents and Settings\your login name\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates, and puts the default Normal.dot there. The Application Data folder and everything under it are marked as Hidden. Unless you change a setting in Windows Explorer, you can't search or browse to anything there. To get access, open Windows Explorer and click Tools Folder Options View. Select the option "Show hidden files and folders" and click OK. Now rerun your search for Normal.dot, and delete the one you find under Application Data. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Kenneth wrote: Howdy, I run Word 2000 SP3, and can't seem to get it to point to the correct Normal.dot. Here are the details: This is a new installation (I toasted my old desktop). A search of the complete system shows that I have only one Normal.dot in a folder called F:\Templates. In Word's Tools | Options | File Locations I have set both User Templates and Workgroup Templates to F:\Templates. If I simply launch Word, it defaults to the font that I use in the intended Normal.dot, but if I then look in Tools | Macro | Macros, none appear (and I have a ton.) If, instead, I close Word, navigate to the only copy of Normal.dot I have, and double click on its icon, Word Launches, but then when I look in Tools | Macro | Macros is shows "Normal.dot (global template)" in the dropdown and the Macros field blank. If I then drop down the dot field and click on "Normal.dot (Template)", the Macros field populates. So (and with apologies if all this is too much detail), it seems that word somehow sees two different versions of Normal.dot one of which is a "global template" and the other just a plain ol' "template." That latter one is the one that I want Word to use. Can you help me to do that? Very sincere thanks, |
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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:32:14 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote: I think you'll find that there really are two Normal.dot templates, but one of them is in a hidden folder. The default installation places your User Templates location at C:\Documents and Settings\your login name\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates, and puts the default Normal.dot there. The Application Data folder and everything under it are marked as Hidden. Unless you change a setting in Windows Explorer, you can't search or browse to anything there. To get access, open Windows Explorer and click Tools Folder Options View. Select the option "Show hidden files and folders" and click OK. Now rerun your search for Normal.dot, and delete the one you find under Application Data. Hi Jay, I thank you for your suggestion, but I already have "Show hidden files and folders checked." Any other thoughts about this? Sincere thanks, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:35:09 -0400, Kenneth
wrote: On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:32:14 -0400, "Jay Freedman" wrote: I think you'll find that there really are two Normal.dot templates, but one of them is in a hidden folder. The default installation places your User Templates location at C:\Documents and Settings\your login name\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates, and puts the default Normal.dot there. The Application Data folder and everything under it are marked as Hidden. Unless you change a setting in Windows Explorer, you can't search or browse to anything there. To get access, open Windows Explorer and click Tools Folder Options View. Select the option "Show hidden files and folders" and click OK. Now rerun your search for Normal.dot, and delete the one you find under Application Data. Hi Jay, I thank you for your suggestion, but I already have "Show hidden files and folders checked." Any other thoughts about this? Sincere thanks, It does sound like you have things set up right, and I don't have any real handle yet on what's gone wrong. One thing that I need to ask is, how did you create the Normal.dot in the F:\Templates folder? Did you copy/paste or move the Normal.dot that Word originally created elsewhere, or did you delete the original after changing the User Template setting and force Word to recreate it in the new location, or was there some other procedure? It could be important to know exactly how that file came into existence. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:08:55 -0400, Jay Freedman
wrote: On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:35:09 -0400, Kenneth wrote: On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:32:14 -0400, "Jay Freedman" wrote: I think you'll find that there really are two Normal.dot templates, but one of them is in a hidden folder. The default installation places your User Templates location at C:\Documents and Settings\your login name\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates, and puts the default Normal.dot there. The Application Data folder and everything under it are marked as Hidden. Unless you change a setting in Windows Explorer, you can't search or browse to anything there. To get access, open Windows Explorer and click Tools Folder Options View. Select the option "Show hidden files and folders" and click OK. Now rerun your search for Normal.dot, and delete the one you find under Application Data. Hi Jay, I thank you for your suggestion, but I already have "Show hidden files and folders checked." Any other thoughts about this? Sincere thanks, It does sound like you have things set up right, and I don't have any real handle yet on what's gone wrong. One thing that I need to ask is, how did you create the Normal.dot in the F:\Templates folder? Did you copy/paste or move the Normal.dot that Word originally created elsewhere, or did you delete the original after changing the User Template setting and force Word to recreate it in the new location, or was there some other procedure? It could be important to know exactly how that file came into existence. Hi again Jay, I have had things on my former system set up this way for a l-o-n-g time and so I will have to tell you what I believe happened rather than what I recall specifically: I used to use word by leaving Normal.dot in its default position. Over time, I added macros etc. Then, at some point, Normal.dot became corrupt. I had to rebuild things. At that point, I realized that I would be better off if I kept it in a location other than the default, and so I moved it. Then, when I launched Word, it created a new Normal.dot in the default location. At that point, I realized that I needed to tell Word where to look for the template I wanted to use and so I modified the File Location setting. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Also, could you tell me something more about why the history of all this would matter? What might be going on that would cause you to ask. Also might you tell me what the deal is with the two different Normal.dot files appearing in the dropdown, that is the "Global template" and the "Template"? Sincere thanks for any further thoughts, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:15:20 -0400, Kenneth
wrote: Hi again Jay, I have had things on my former system set up this way for a l-o-n-g time and so I will have to tell you what I believe happened rather than what I recall specifically: I used to use word by leaving Normal.dot in its default position. Over time, I added macros etc. Then, at some point, Normal.dot became corrupt. I had to rebuild things. At that point, I realized that I would be better off if I kept it in a location other than the default, and so I moved it. Then, when I launched Word, it created a new Normal.dot in the default location. At that point, I realized that I needed to tell Word where to look for the template I wanted to use and so I modified the File Location setting. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Also, could you tell me something more about why the history of all this would matter? What might be going on that would cause you to ask. Also might you tell me what the deal is with the two different Normal.dot files appearing in the dropdown, that is the "Global template" and the "Template"? Sincere thanks for any further thoughts, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." Hi again Jay, I believe that I have this resolved (though, in truth, I don't understand what's going on.) I modified the "Startup" folder, and now, when I launch Word, it uses the correct Normal.dot. I'll keep you posted if there is anything further on this, but really did appreciate your help, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
Normal.dot must not be in the startup folder! It should be in the user
templates folder. Tools options file locations. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Kenneth wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:15:20 -0400, Kenneth wrote: Hi again Jay, I have had things on my former system set up this way for a l-o-n-g time and so I will have to tell you what I believe happened rather than what I recall specifically: I used to use word by leaving Normal.dot in its default position. Over time, I added macros etc. Then, at some point, Normal.dot became corrupt. I had to rebuild things. At that point, I realized that I would be better off if I kept it in a location other than the default, and so I moved it. Then, when I launched Word, it created a new Normal.dot in the default location. At that point, I realized that I needed to tell Word where to look for the template I wanted to use and so I modified the File Location setting. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Also, could you tell me something more about why the history of all this would matter? What might be going on that would cause you to ask. Also might you tell me what the deal is with the two different Normal.dot files appearing in the dropdown, that is the "Global template" and the "Template"? Sincere thanks for any further thoughts, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." Hi again Jay, I believe that I have this resolved (though, in truth, I don't understand what's going on.) I modified the "Startup" folder, and now, when I launch Word, it uses the correct Normal.dot. I'll keep you posted if there is anything further on this, but really did appreciate your help, |
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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
In addition to Graham's warning, if you want to store macros "out of harm's
way", put them into a separate template -- NOT in Normal.dot -- and store THAT template in the startup folder. Leave Normal.dot in the User Templates location but without any macros. That should give you the best of both arrangements. Any template stored in the Startup location will be loaded during Word's initialization, and it will be "global", that is, available in all documents. You don't base new documents on global templates, only on those in the User Templates or Workgroup Templates locations. Normal.dot is special, in that it's automatically global but is also used to create new documents. This confusion is described at http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Graham Mayor wrote: Normal.dot must not be in the startup folder! It should be in the user templates folder. Tools options file locations. Kenneth wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:15:20 -0400, Kenneth wrote: Hi again Jay, I have had things on my former system set up this way for a l-o-n-g time and so I will have to tell you what I believe happened rather than what I recall specifically: I used to use word by leaving Normal.dot in its default position. Over time, I added macros etc. Then, at some point, Normal.dot became corrupt. I had to rebuild things. At that point, I realized that I would be better off if I kept it in a location other than the default, and so I moved it. Then, when I launched Word, it created a new Normal.dot in the default location. At that point, I realized that I needed to tell Word where to look for the template I wanted to use and so I modified the File Location setting. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it. Also, could you tell me something more about why the history of all this would matter? What might be going on that would cause you to ask. Also might you tell me what the deal is with the two different Normal.dot files appearing in the dropdown, that is the "Global template" and the "Template"? Sincere thanks for any further thoughts, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." Hi again Jay, I believe that I have this resolved (though, in truth, I don't understand what's going on.) I modified the "Startup" folder, and now, when I launch Word, it uses the correct Normal.dot. I'll keep you posted if there is anything further on this, but really did appreciate your help, |
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Word points to wrong NORMAL.DOT...?
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:15:07 -0400, "Jay Freedman"
wrote: In addition to Graham's warning, if you want to store macros "out of harm's way", put them into a separate template -- NOT in Normal.dot -- and store THAT template in the startup folder. Leave Normal.dot in the User Templates location but without any macros. That should give you the best of both arrangements. Any template stored in the Startup location will be loaded during Word's initialization, and it will be "global", that is, available in all documents. You don't base new documents on global templates, only on those in the User Templates or Workgroup Templates locations. Normal.dot is special, in that it's automatically global but is also used to create new documents. This confusion is described at http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. Hi Jay and Graham, I thank you both! -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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