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I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more entries of the
table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the application:
a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.



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I think you're confusing two features: tables, and [snaking/newspaper]
columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

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"Karl" wrote in message
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I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more entries of the
table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the application:
a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.




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Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on fewer
numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and [snaking/newspaper]
columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
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I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more entries of the
table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the application:
a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.





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Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two columns. The
table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You may no longer be able
to read the content.

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Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on fewer
numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
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I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more entries
of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the application:
a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.



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1. where is 'format'?

2. I have been able to snake tables in the past without being unable to read
the content. Each row has a 3 columns: first column of 2 characters, second
column has 1 character, and the third column has 11 characters. Should be
able to snake this into at least 3 'snakes' per page.

Thanks.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two columns. The
table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You may no longer be able
to read the content.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on fewer
numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
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I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more entries
of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the application:
a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.






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Format - in Word versions up to 2003 is on the main menu bar.
In Word 2007, columns are on the Page Layout tab

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My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
1. where is 'format'?

2. I have been able to snake tables in the past without being unable
to read the content. Each row has a 3 columns: first column of 2
characters, second column has 1 character, and the third column has
11 characters. Should be able to snake this into at least 3 'snakes'
per page.

Thanks.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two
columns. The table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You
may no longer be able to read the content.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on
fewer numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
...
I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more entries
of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the application:
a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.



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Privately:

(I do not know why it is so difficult to explain what I need. I am well
aware of the columns tab within the page layout tab. I have used it before to
snake tables. I have described the table I am trying to snake now. The column
cmd within the page layout does not work for the table I described in the
previous post. I want to know why. Microsoft should publish details about the
various cmds to illustrate in detail when they work and when do not).

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Format - in Word versions up to 2003 is on the main menu bar.
In Word 2007, columns are on the Page Layout tab

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
1. where is 'format'?

2. I have been able to snake tables in the past without being unable
to read the content. Each row has a 3 columns: first column of 2
characters, second column has 1 character, and the third column has
11 characters. Should be able to snake this into at least 3 'snakes'
per page.

Thanks.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two
columns. The table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You
may no longer be able to read the content.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on
fewer numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
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I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more entries
of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the application:
a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.




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I have no idea why, and Microsoft probably won't either - though I don't
speak for them. I have created a three column table twelve pages long and it
works as I describe. However it is not *your* table, so I cannot comment on
what anomalies it may contain - maybe fixed width cells?

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My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Privately:

(I do not know why it is so difficult to explain what I need. I am
well aware of the columns tab within the page layout tab. I have used
it before to snake tables. I have described the table I am trying to
snake now. The column cmd within the page layout does not work for
the table I described in the previous post. I want to know why.
Microsoft should publish details about the various cmds to illustrate
in detail when they work and when do not).

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Format - in Word versions up to 2003 is on the main menu bar.
In Word 2007, columns are on the Page Layout tab

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
1. where is 'format'?

2. I have been able to snake tables in the past without being unable
to read the content. Each row has a 3 columns: first column of 2
characters, second column has 1 character, and the third column has
11 characters. Should be able to snake this into at least 3 'snakes'
per page.

Thanks.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two
columns. The table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You
may no longer be able to read the content.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on
fewer numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
...
I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more
entries of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not
work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the
application: a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.



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Thanks. This was quite a bit more helpful. You mention anomalies, which I can
grasp, like the sunspots we used to blame for glitches a long time ago.
Definitely the table contains fixed width cells, but I do not understand what
difference this would make, as it has not made a difference in the past for
other tables I have 'snake-columnized'.

Incidentally, I also tried converting the table to text before
'snake-columnizing' it, but this then lost or hid parts of the table for me
and still did not 'snake-columnize' it.

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

I have no idea why, and Microsoft probably won't either - though I don't
speak for them. I have created a three column table twelve pages long and it
works as I describe. However it is not *your* table, so I cannot comment on
what anomalies it may contain - maybe fixed width cells?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Privately:

(I do not know why it is so difficult to explain what I need. I am
well aware of the columns tab within the page layout tab. I have used
it before to snake tables. I have described the table I am trying to
snake now. The column cmd within the page layout does not work for
the table I described in the previous post. I want to know why.
Microsoft should publish details about the various cmds to illustrate
in detail when they work and when do not).

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Format - in Word versions up to 2003 is on the main menu bar.
In Word 2007, columns are on the Page Layout tab

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
1. where is 'format'?

2. I have been able to snake tables in the past without being unable
to read the content. Each row has a 3 columns: first column of 2
characters, second column has 1 character, and the third column has
11 characters. Should be able to snake this into at least 3 'snakes'
per page.

Thanks.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two
columns. The table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You
may no longer be able to read the content.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on
fewer numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
...
I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more
entries of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not
work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the
application: a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.




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I feel like I have been dropped like a hot potato; your last answer '...I
have no idea ... and Microsoft probably doesn't either ....'.

You could have said something like: 'how is this table, which you cannot
columnize, differ from the one that you could columnize?'

I had to hunt for the answer myself, and finally found that the length of
the row was 6.5, even though the total of all 3 columns was less than 2. The
increased length came about as I was expanding and contracting the table
width to find the smallest possible width. The 'table definition' retained
the largest size attained. The solution was to save the table in the
clipboard, create an empty 'one column, multiple row' table, with the column
size to expand as needed, then to copy the clipboard enty to the new table.

Now tell me why I should not gloat that the expert would not/could not help
me and I had to find the answer by myself?

"Karl" wrote:

Thanks. This was quite a bit more helpful. You mention anomalies, which I can
grasp, like the sunspots we used to blame for glitches a long time ago.
Definitely the table contains fixed width cells, but I do not understand what
difference this would make, as it has not made a difference in the past for
other tables I have 'snake-columnized'.

Incidentally, I also tried converting the table to text before
'snake-columnizing' it, but this then lost or hid parts of the table for me
and still did not 'snake-columnize' it.

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

I have no idea why, and Microsoft probably won't either - though I don't
speak for them. I have created a three column table twelve pages long and it
works as I describe. However it is not *your* table, so I cannot comment on
what anomalies it may contain - maybe fixed width cells?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Privately:

(I do not know why it is so difficult to explain what I need. I am
well aware of the columns tab within the page layout tab. I have used
it before to snake tables. I have described the table I am trying to
snake now. The column cmd within the page layout does not work for
the table I described in the previous post. I want to know why.
Microsoft should publish details about the various cmds to illustrate
in detail when they work and when do not).

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Format - in Word versions up to 2003 is on the main menu bar.
In Word 2007, columns are on the Page Layout tab

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
1. where is 'format'?

2. I have been able to snake tables in the past without being unable
to read the content. Each row has a 3 columns: first column of 2
characters, second column has 1 character, and the third column has
11 characters. Should be able to snake this into at least 3 'snakes'
per page.

Thanks.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two
columns. The table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You
may no longer be able to read the content.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on
fewer numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
...
I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more
entries of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not
work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the
application: a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.






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In article ,
says...
Now tell me why I should not gloat that the expert would not/could not help
me and I had to find the answer by myself?


Too late.

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Karl wrote:

Now tell me why I should not gloat that the expert would not/could
not help me and I had to find the answer by myself?


If that is the sort of grace you exhibit when someone wastes his own time
and effort to attempt to assist you - and then points you in the right
direction, perhaps you could tell us why we should bother to respond to your
questions in the future?

This is a user peer group not a Microsoft help desk. We don't know
everything, but we do our best to assist. Microsoft didn't 'drop you like a
hot potato' it never picked you up in the first place. No-one from Microsoft
(officially) responds here. If you want Microsoft's help I am sure that they
will be happy to take your money.


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It seems you've found your answer, but my suggestion would have been to
check the width of the table. It's usually helpful to insert the table after
creating the snaking columns, since any new table is inserted at 100% of the
column width. For an existing table, you can make sure that auto resizing is
disabled, then set the table width to 100% (to ensure that it is all
visible) as a starting point for adjusting the column widths.

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"Karl" wrote in message
...
Thanks. This was quite a bit more helpful. You mention anomalies, which I
can
grasp, like the sunspots we used to blame for glitches a long time ago.
Definitely the table contains fixed width cells, but I do not understand
what
difference this would make, as it has not made a difference in the past
for
other tables I have 'snake-columnized'.

Incidentally, I also tried converting the table to text before
'snake-columnizing' it, but this then lost or hid parts of the table for
me
and still did not 'snake-columnize' it.

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

I have no idea why, and Microsoft probably won't either - though I don't
speak for them. I have created a three column table twelve pages long and
it
works as I describe. However it is not *your* table, so I cannot comment
on
what anomalies it may contain - maybe fixed width cells?

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Privately:

(I do not know why it is so difficult to explain what I need. I am
well aware of the columns tab within the page layout tab. I have used
it before to snake tables. I have described the table I am trying to
snake now. The column cmd within the page layout does not work for
the table I described in the previous post. I want to know why.
Microsoft should publish details about the various cmds to illustrate
in detail when they work and when do not).

Karl

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Format - in Word versions up to 2003 is on the main menu bar.
In Word 2007, columns are on the Page Layout tab

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
1. where is 'format'?

2. I have been able to snake tables in the past without being unable
to read the content. Each row has a 3 columns: first column of 2
characters, second column has 1 character, and the third column has
11 characters. Should be able to snake this into at least 3 'snakes'
per page.

Thanks.

"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Put the cursor in the first cell then format columns two
columns. The table should shrink and reflow into two columns. You
may no longer be able to read the content.

--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org



Karl wrote:
Did not make things clearer.

I want to know how to 'snake' a multi-page table into columns on
fewer numbers of pages.

Karl



"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I think you're confusing two features: tables, and
[snaking/newspaper] columns. See if this makes things clearer:

http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingColumns.htm

--
Herb Tyson MS MVP
Author of the Word 2007 Bible
Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com
Web: http://www.herbtyson.com


"Karl" wrote in message
...
I have a 3 column table 12 pages long; I want to show more
entries of the table on a page, but the 'column' cmd will not
work.

Incidentally, the word 'column' is used 2 ways in the
application: a) 'column's in a table
b) 'column's per page

I want the table to appear in more than 1 column on the 'page'.

Thanks.






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Just an FYI. There are a lot of us who give thanks for the MVPs every day,
and wonder where in the heck we'd be without you.
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"Graham Mayor" wrote:

Karl wrote:

Now tell me why I should not gloat that the expert would not/could
not help me and I had to find the answer by myself?


If that is the sort of grace you exhibit when someone wastes his own time
and effort to attempt to assist you - and then points you in the right
direction, perhaps you could tell us why we should bother to respond to your
questions in the future?

This is a user peer group not a Microsoft help desk. We don't know
everything, but we do our best to assist. Microsoft didn't 'drop you like a
hot potato' it never picked you up in the first place. No-one from Microsoft
(officially) responds here. If you want Microsoft's help I am sure that they
will be happy to take your money.


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

My web site www.gmayor.com
Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org






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Your comments are appreciated

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William wrote:
Just an FYI. There are a lot of us who give thanks for the MVPs
every day, and wonder where in the heck we'd be without you.

Karl wrote:

Now tell me why I should not gloat that the expert would not/could
not help me and I had to find the answer by myself?


If that is the sort of grace you exhibit when someone wastes his own
time and effort to attempt to assist you - and then points you in
the right direction, perhaps you could tell us why we should bother
to respond to your questions in the future?

This is a user peer group not a Microsoft help desk. We don't know
everything, but we do our best to assist. Microsoft didn't 'drop you
like a hot potato' it never picked you up in the first place. No-one
from Microsoft (officially) responds here. If you want Microsoft's
help I am sure that they will be happy to take your money.


--

Graham Mayor - Word MVP

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