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Default Word changes alphanumeric characters to wingdings font, inside pic

Using Word 2007, a compatability mode document has several figure-captioned
pictures. When printed, one picture has some, but not all, of its
alphanumeric characters (appearing in the picture) changed to wingding font
characters. Converted the Word file to a PDF file, and the wingdings showed
up in the picture in the PDF file, too. The font surrounding the picture is
Arial.
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Hi Zane,

So this is text that is part of the graphic, rather than something in the caption and the problem does not show up in Word or in
Print Preview?

What format is the source graphic and how are you inserting it into Word?

What languages are active in the document?

Do you have a blog/space/online file area/web page/etc. where you could put an example of the problem graphic and Word document?

By the way, several of the regulars here are Haiku fans, in case (from your signature) you have a favorite you might like to share
with them.

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Using Word 2007, a compatability mode document has several figure-captioned
pictures. When printed, one picture has some, but not all, of its
alphanumeric characters (appearing in the picture) changed to wingding font
characters. Converted the Word file to a PDF file, and the wingdings showed
up in the picture in the PDF file, too. The font surrounding the picture is
Arial.

Zane Lassiter
Haiku Master
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Default Word changes alphanumeric characters to wingdings font, inside

Bob,
1. Text is part of graphic - embedded in graphic. Problem does NOT show in
Word doc, but DOES show in print preview, on printed page, and in converted
PDF doc.
2. Source graphic is a drawing exported from AutoCAD as metafile (.WMF).
Inserted as picture, in Word.
3. Only language is English.
4. Sorry, presently no way to post file online. Actually, it's a "sensitive"
file (DoD/USAF/etc).
5. Will post haiku in a later iteration.
Thanks!
Zane
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"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

Hi Zane,

So this is text that is part of the graphic, rather than something in the caption and the problem does not show up in Word or in
Print Preview?

What format is the source graphic and how are you inserting it into Word?

What languages are active in the document?

Do you have a blog/space/online file area/web page/etc. where you could put an example of the problem graphic and Word document?

By the way, several of the regulars here are Haiku fans, in case (from your signature) you have a favorite you might like to share
with them.

==============
"Zane Lassiter" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007, a compatability mode document has several figure-captioned
pictures. When printed, one picture has some, but not all, of its
alphanumeric characters (appearing in the picture) changed to wingding font
characters. Converted the Word file to a PDF file, and the wingdings showed
up in the picture in the PDF file, too. The font surrounding the picture is
Arial.

Zane Lassiter
Haiku Master
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

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Default Word changes alphanumeric characters to wingdings font, inside

Bob, please advise if you have further questions. Here's a traditional (5-7-5
syllables) haiku:
Reticent people
backed into a corner
are highly explosive.
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"Zane Lassiter" wrote:

Bob,
1. Text is part of graphic - embedded in graphic. Problem does NOT show in
Word doc, but DOES show in print preview, on printed page, and in converted
PDF doc.
2. Source graphic is a drawing exported from AutoCAD as metafile (.WMF).
Inserted as picture, in Word.
3. Only language is English.
4. Sorry, presently no way to post file online. Actually, it's a "sensitive"
file (DoD/USAF/etc).
5. Will post haiku in a later iteration.
Thanks!
Zane
--
Zane Lassiter
Haiku Master


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

Hi Zane,

So this is text that is part of the graphic, rather than something in the caption and the problem does not show up in Word or in
Print Preview?

What format is the source graphic and how are you inserting it into Word?

What languages are active in the document?

Do you have a blog/space/online file area/web page/etc. where you could put an example of the problem graphic and Word document?

By the way, several of the regulars here are Haiku fans, in case (from your signature) you have a favorite you might like to share
with them.

==============
"Zane Lassiter" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007, a compatability mode document has several figure-captioned
pictures. When printed, one picture has some, but not all, of its
alphanumeric characters (appearing in the picture) changed to wingding font
characters. Converted the Word file to a PDF file, and the wingdings showed
up in the picture in the PDF file, too. The font surrounding the picture is
Arial.

Zane Lassiter
Haiku Master
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*



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Default Word changes alphanumeric characters to wingdings font, inside

Hi Zane,

Without a sample to go by this is somewhat general

It's possible that there's a font mismatch somewhere, an add-in that's conflicting or older versioned.

I've tried inserting some AutoCAD generated .WMF files and converted some .DWGs to using http://irfanview.com and using both the
Word 2007 save as PDF and separate tools to print to XPS or PDF I don't get the change in font.

What fonts are you using in your drawings in AutoCAD and are all of those fonts also available in Word 2007?

When you insert the .WMF into Word (Insert=Picture=From File) if you right click on the inserted graphic and choose 'Edit Picture'
are there any Font substitutions then listed if you go to
Office Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content=[Font Substitutions] ?


Is it necessary that the inserted graphic be in WMF? There are conversion products but also a couple of things you can try in
AutoCAD

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"Zane Lassiter" wrote in message
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Bob,
1. Text is part of graphic - embedded in graphic. Problem does NOT show in
Word doc, but DOES show in print preview, on printed page, and in converted
PDF doc.
2. Source graphic is a drawing exported from AutoCAD as metafile (.WMF).
Inserted as picture, in Word.
3. Only language is English.
4. Sorry, presently no way to post file online. Actually, it's a "sensitive"
file (DoD/USAF/etc).
5. Will post haiku in a later iteration.
Thanks!
Zane
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Zane Lassiter
Haiku Master
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*




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Bob,
I'm checking with the AutoCAD fellow on what fonts are used in our drawings.
At Office Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content, I click
'Font Substitution...' and nothing! With the dot-dot-dot trailer and
Microsoft convention, I expect something to follow - window, dialog box,
drop-down list, something. Is this normal? Does it indicate no font
substitution?
Thanks,
Zane




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Zane Lassiter
Haiku Master


"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

Hi Zane,

Without a sample to go by this is somewhat general

It's possible that there's a font mismatch somewhere, an add-in that's conflicting or older versioned.

I've tried inserting some AutoCAD generated .WMF files and converted some .DWGs to using http://irfanview.com and using both the
Word 2007 save as PDF and separate tools to print to XPS or PDF I don't get the change in font.

What fonts are you using in your drawings in AutoCAD and are all of those fonts also available in Word 2007?

When you insert the .WMF into Word (Insert=Picture=From File) if you right click on the inserted graphic and choose 'Edit Picture'
are there any Font substitutions then listed if you go to
Office Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content=[Font Substitutions] ?


Is it necessary that the inserted graphic be in WMF? There are conversion products but also a couple of things you can try in
AutoCAD

=============
"Zane Lassiter" wrote in message
...
Bob,
1. Text is part of graphic - embedded in graphic. Problem does NOT show in
Word doc, but DOES show in print preview, on printed page, and in converted
PDF doc.
2. Source graphic is a drawing exported from AutoCAD as metafile (.WMF).
Inserted as picture, in Word.
3. Only language is English.
4. Sorry, presently no way to post file online. Actually, it's a "sensitive"
file (DoD/USAF/etc).
5. Will post haiku in a later iteration.
Thanks!
Zane
--
Zane Lassiter
Haiku Master
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Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*



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Default Word changes alphanumeric characters to wingdings font, inside

Try copying the drawing, deleting it, and then pasting it back as an enhanced
metafile. Because you'll then have a static image, the font problem should
be gone. Sometimes this doesn't work well in Word, and you'll have to
produce a jpeg, or some such, in another porgram.

HTH,
PamC

Zane Lassiter wrote:
Bob,
I'm checking with the AutoCAD fellow on what fonts are used in our drawings.
At Office Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content, I click
'Font Substitution...' and nothing! With the dot-dot-dot trailer and
Microsoft convention, I expect something to follow - window, dialog box,
drop-down list, something. Is this normal? Does it indicate no font
substitution?
Thanks,
Zane

Hi Zane,

[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
Thanks!
Zane


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Hi PamC,
Would you break it down for me - ID source and target for each step and
where action takes place, e.g. in AutoCAD or in Word. Specifically, are you
saying: Copying from AutoCAD to Word? (Not insert?)
Copying from file saved/exported from AutoCAD, to Word? (Not insert?)
Delete picture in Word?
Paste into Word from where?

Thanks,
Zane


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"PamC via OfficeKB.com" wrote:

Try copying the drawing, deleting it, and then pasting it back as an enhanced
metafile. Because you'll then have a static image, the font problem should
be gone. Sometimes this doesn't work well in Word, and you'll have to
produce a jpeg, or some such, in another porgram.

HTH,
PamC

Zane Lassiter wrote:
Bob,
I'm checking with the AutoCAD fellow on what fonts are used in our drawings.
At Office Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content, I click
'Font Substitution...' and nothing! With the dot-dot-dot trailer and
Microsoft convention, I expect something to follow - window, dialog box,
drop-down list, something. Is this normal? Does it indicate no font
substitution?
Thanks,
Zane

Hi Zane,

[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
Thanks!
Zane


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Hi Zane,

If, after using the 'Edit Picture' choice, when you then click on the
[Font Substitution] button you should get a response dialog that shows
either

(a) 'No font substitution is necessary. All fonts used in the document are available'

or (b) a list of the substitutions.

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"Zane Lassiter" wrote in message
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Bob,
I'm checking with the AutoCAD fellow on what fonts are used in our drawings.
At Office Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content, I click
'Font Substitution...' and nothing! With the dot-dot-dot trailer and
Microsoft convention, I expect something to follow - window, dialog box,
drop-down list, something. Is this normal? Does it indicate no font
substitution?
Thanks,
Zane
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MS Office System Products MVP

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Default Word changes alphanumeric characters to wingdings font, inside

Sorry to be late answering, I've been away for a few days. My suggestion is
an emergency fix when you can't get to the native file. While in Word, copy
the drawing, delete it, and then pasting it back into the same spot as an
enhanced metafile.

I suggested that you "try" it because sometimes (rarely for me) the parts of
the image will shift unacceptably. For me that means going back to the
artist and asking him/her to make a jpeg. I prefer to use static images
because of problems like you describe.

PamC



Zane Lassiter wrote:
Hi PamC,
Would you break it down for me - ID source and target for each step and
where action takes place, e.g. in AutoCAD or in Word. Specifically, are you
saying: Copying from AutoCAD to Word? (Not insert?)
Copying from file saved/exported from AutoCAD, to Word? (Not insert?)
Delete picture in Word?
Paste into Word from where?

Thanks,
Zane

Try copying the drawing, deleting it, and then pasting it back as an enhanced
metafile. Because you'll then have a static image, the font problem should

[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
Thanks!
Zane


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Bob,
I get neither. I right-click on picture, choose Edit Picture, then at Office
Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content, I click the
'Font Substitution...' button. No response dialog. Nothing. Am I following
your steps? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Zane


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"Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote:

Hi Zane,

If, after using the 'Edit Picture' choice, when you then click on the
[Font Substitution] button you should get a response dialog that shows
either

(a) 'No font substitution is necessary. All fonts used in the document are available'

or (b) a list of the substitutions.

================
"Zane Lassiter" wrote in message
...
Bob,
I'm checking with the AutoCAD fellow on what fonts are used in our drawings.
At Office Button=Word Options=Advanced=Show Document Content, I click
'Font Substitution...' and nothing! With the dot-dot-dot trailer and
Microsoft convention, I expect something to follow - window, dialog box,
drop-down list, something. Is this normal? Does it indicate no font
substitution?
Thanks,
Zane
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*



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