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Hidden Hdr/Ftr - using Print Layout - Not white sp prob
No problem with displaying or printing headers yesterday. Today, they
display only if markup is displayed. I restored yesterday's document, but same problem. I am using the Print Layout in the View menu. In the OptionsView tab, White Spaces is checked. The document has no sections. If I display the document with markup, the hdr/ftr displays. If I select ViewHeader and Footer, the header is available for editing, and the text body is grayed out. If I then switch to display Final w/o Markup, there is no hdr/ftr, the text body is still grayed out, and the View menu shows Header and Footer is still selected. When I click on the latter, the text body shows normally. Clicking on the ViewHeader and Footer again sends me to the top of the document, there is no header, and the text is available for editing. Sighhhhhhhhhhh! Charlie Brown and I need help. |
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Hidden Hdr/Ftr - using Print Layout - Not white sp prob
Just a thought - but if your header is not there in the Final version but is
there when showing markup, perhaps it has been deleted. Depending on how deletions are flagged it could show as you report. I can't think of any other reason. -- Enjoy, Tony "Bud I." wrote in message news:Nuyff.341763$084.265180@attbi_s22... No problem with displaying or printing headers yesterday. Today, they display only if markup is displayed. I restored yesterday's document, but same problem. I am using the Print Layout in the View menu. In the OptionsView tab, White Spaces is checked. The document has no sections. If I display the document with markup, the hdr/ftr displays. If I select ViewHeader and Footer, the header is available for editing, and the text body is grayed out. If I then switch to display Final w/o Markup, there is no hdr/ftr, the text body is still grayed out, and the View menu shows Header and Footer is still selected. When I click on the latter, the text body shows normally. Clicking on the ViewHeader and Footer again sends me to the top of the document, there is no header, and the text is available for editing. Sighhhhhhhhhhh! Charlie Brown and I need help. |
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Thanks for the reply, Tony, but ...
I assumed that was the problem, and tried to create a new header. Unfortunately, Word will not open the editable Header and Footer display when I click on that item in the View menu. To make sure, I just entered "xxx" in the first line of the document. The change appears in the Final with and without markup, so it's the same document. Other observations that didn't help me, but might help more experienced people: 1) The problem does not exist in other documents or in a new document. 2) Document protection has Protect Changes selected, and won't let me change it. The document is not protected. 3) ToolsViewText boundaries - The boundaries expand and contract to include the header and footers with and w/o markup. 4) The same problem exists when I took the document to another computer. - bud - Tony Jollans wrote: Just a thought - but if your header is not there in the Final version but is there when showing markup, perhaps it has been deleted. Depending on how deletions are flagged it could show as you report. I can't think of any other reason. -- Enjoy, Tony "Bud I." wrote in message news:Nuyff.341763$084.265180@attbi_s22... No problem with displaying or printing headers yesterday. Today, they display only if markup is displayed. I restored yesterday's document, but same problem. I am using the Print Layout in the View menu. In the OptionsView tab, White Spaces is checked. The document has no sections. If I display the document with markup, the hdr/ftr displays. If I select ViewHeader and Footer, the header is available for editing, and the text body is grayed out. If I then switch to display Final w/o Markup, there is no hdr/ftr, the text body is still grayed out, and the View menu shows Header and Footer is still selected. When I click on the latter, the text body shows normally. Clicking on the ViewHeader and Footer again sends me to the top of the document, there is no header, and the text is available for editing. Sighhhhhhhhhhh! Charlie Brown and I need help. |
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If the document is protected for changes, this would explain some of the
problem, I think. Are you prompted for a password when you try to unprotect it? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bud I." wrote in message news:7rKff.584848$xm3.488195@attbi_s21... Thanks for the reply, Tony, but ... I assumed that was the problem, and tried to create a new header. Unfortunately, Word will not open the editable Header and Footer display when I click on that item in the View menu. To make sure, I just entered "xxx" in the first line of the document. The change appears in the Final with and without markup, so it's the same document. Other observations that didn't help me, but might help more experienced people: 1) The problem does not exist in other documents or in a new document. 2) Document protection has Protect Changes selected, and won't let me change it. The document is not protected. 3) ToolsViewText boundaries - The boundaries expand and contract to include the header and footers with and w/o markup. 4) The same problem exists when I took the document to another computer. - bud - Tony Jollans wrote: Just a thought - but if your header is not there in the Final version but is there when showing markup, perhaps it has been deleted. Depending on how deletions are flagged it could show as you report. I can't think of any other reason. -- Enjoy, Tony "Bud I." wrote in message news:Nuyff.341763$084.265180@attbi_s22... No problem with displaying or printing headers yesterday. Today, they display only if markup is displayed. I restored yesterday's document, but same problem. I am using the Print Layout in the View menu. In the OptionsView tab, White Spaces is checked. The document has no sections. If I display the document with markup, the hdr/ftr displays. If I select ViewHeader and Footer, the header is available for editing, and the text body is grayed out. If I then switch to display Final w/o Markup, there is no hdr/ftr, the text body is still grayed out, and the View menu shows Header and Footer is still selected. When I click on the latter, the text body shows normally. Clicking on the ViewHeader and Footer again sends me to the top of the document, there is no header, and the text is available for editing. Sighhhhhhhhhhh! Charlie Brown and I need help. |
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Hidden Hdr/Ftr - using Print Layout - Not white sp prob
Thanks for replying.
I don't think the document has ever been protected. When I now click on ToolsProtect Document, the following dialogue box is displayed * Tracked changes [* = a selected bullet] Comments [ Unselected bullet] Forms [ Unselected bullet] Password (Optional) _________________ If I click OK (w/o password), I get the Final with markup view and the header and footer are available for editing. If I now change to Final (w/o markup), I cannot edit or print the header. I then clicked on ToolsUnprotect document, and the Header is still unavailable. ** UPDATE - BREAKTHROUGH ** (Please excuse the shouting.) I was going to offer sending you the first two pages to scrutinize if you were so inclined. I decided to test the two pages first to ensure the failure was exhibited. When I copied the first two pages, the failure failed to fail! The Header and Footer were available for creation/editing. After copying various groups of pages with failures and successes, I discovered there was a section break just before the first page of the main body to facilitate changing page numbering from i, ii, iii followed by 1, 2, 3. I went to the second page of the second section, and created the header. Viola! Thanks for the assistance. I am impressed by the skill and helpfulness of the MVPs. During my research the last three days, I have found, and bookmarked, several pages of technical assists especially in the areas of Sections, Styles, and Numbering. - bud - Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: If the document is protected for changes, this would explain some of the problem, I think. Are you prompted for a password when you try to unprotect it? |
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Glad you got it sorted.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bud I." wrote in message news:R4Wff.586669$xm3.383540@attbi_s21... Thanks for replying. I don't think the document has ever been protected. When I now click on ToolsProtect Document, the following dialogue box is displayed * Tracked changes [* = a selected bullet] Comments [ Unselected bullet] Forms [ Unselected bullet] Password (Optional) _________________ If I click OK (w/o password), I get the Final with markup view and the header and footer are available for editing. If I now change to Final (w/o markup), I cannot edit or print the header. I then clicked on ToolsUnprotect document, and the Header is still unavailable. ** UPDATE - BREAKTHROUGH ** (Please excuse the shouting.) I was going to offer sending you the first two pages to scrutinize if you were so inclined. I decided to test the two pages first to ensure the failure was exhibited. When I copied the first two pages, the failure failed to fail! The Header and Footer were available for creation/editing. After copying various groups of pages with failures and successes, I discovered there was a section break just before the first page of the main body to facilitate changing page numbering from i, ii, iii followed by 1, 2, 3. I went to the second page of the second section, and created the header. Viola! Thanks for the assistance. I am impressed by the skill and helpfulness of the MVPs. During my research the last three days, I have found, and bookmarked, several pages of technical assists especially in the areas of Sections, Styles, and Numbering. - bud - Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: If the document is protected for changes, this would explain some of the problem, I think. Are you prompted for a password when you try to unprotect it? |
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