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Hello,



I have set up my styles in the "normal.dot" and my outline numbering works the way it should. Never any problems with the outline numbering as such (Thanks, Shauna Kelly!).

My heading levels 1 - 5 are set up i a very simple fashion, but I also have alternative styles on all 5 levels, depending on the kind of document I create. A brief example of heading styles on level 1:

"Heading 1" (AvantGarde 14 pt Bold) (Built-in style)
"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) (based on Heading 1)
"Heading 1 Sans" (AvantGarde 11 pt Bold) (based on Heading 1)

If I format a paragraph in the document with "Heading 1 Serif", and I also select to start renumbering (quite common in an instruction sheet) from this paragraph onwards, then the "Heading 1 Serif" paragraph inherits the formatting (including font, size and other attributes) of the style "Heading 1", i.e. the default level 1 style. The style name also changes to "Heading 1".

How do I prevent the style "Heading 1 Serif" from inheriting the formats (style) of "Heading 1"?

Best regards,


Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden



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Eric G
 
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Hello again,

I should have mentioned that I'm running XPP SP2 and Office 2003 SP2. Sorry for the omission.

Regards,

Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden



"Eric G" wrote in message ...

Hello,



I have set up my styles in the "normal.dot" and my outline numbering works the way it should. Never any problems with the outline numbering as such (Thanks, Shauna Kelly!).

My heading levels 1 - 5 are set up i a very simple fashion, but I also have alternative styles on all 5 levels, depending on the kind of document I create. A brief example of heading styles on level 1:

"Heading 1" (AvantGarde 14 pt Bold) (Built-in style)
"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) (based on Heading 1)
"Heading 1 Sans" (AvantGarde 11 pt Bold) (based on Heading 1)

If I format a paragraph in the document with "Heading 1 Serif", and I also select to start renumbering (quite common in an instruction sheet) from this paragraph onwards, then the "Heading 1 Serif" paragraph inherits the formatting (including font, size and other attributes) of the style "Heading 1", i.e. the default level 1 style. The style name also changes to "Heading 1".

How do I prevent the style "Heading 1 Serif" from inheriting the formats (style) of "Heading 1"?

Best regards,


Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden



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Hi Eric -

I believe the bulk of the problem is described in your own words:

"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) *(based on Heading 1)*


The H1Serif is inheriting from H1 because it is *Based On* it. Modifying the
parent style passes the common atribute changes on to the children.

If you don't want a style to change, don't base it on another.

HTH |:)

"Eric G" wrote:


Hello,



I have set up my styles in the "normal.dot" and my outline numbering works the way it should. Never any problems with the outline numbering as such (Thanks, Shauna Kelly!).

My heading levels 1 - 5 are set up i a very simple fashion, but I also have alternative styles on all 5 levels, depending on the kind of document I create. A brief example of heading styles on level 1:

"Heading 1" (AvantGarde 14 pt Bold) (Built-in style)
"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) (based on Heading 1)
"Heading 1 Sans" (AvantGarde 11 pt Bold) (based on Heading 1)

If I format a paragraph in the document with "Heading 1 Serif", and I also select to start renumbering (quite common in an instruction sheet) from this paragraph onwards, then the "Heading 1 Serif" paragraph inherits the formatting (including font, size and other attributes) of the style "Heading 1", i.e. the default level 1 style. The style name also changes to "Heading 1".

How do I prevent the style "Heading 1 Serif" from inheriting the formats (style) of "Heading 1"?

Best regards,


Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden



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Klaus Linke
 
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Hi Eric,

Word isn't designed to allow several styles at a given list level. You can
fake it (as you did) by basing other styles on numbered styles linked to
some list template, but that is only a hack, and the issues you get
("Heading 1 Serif" changing back to "Heading 1") are not really avoidable.

I fear you have to live with it (and fix the errors by hand), or change to a
simpler numbering scheme...

:-( Klaus



"Eric G" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Hello,



I have set up my styles in the "normal.dot" and my outline numbering works
the way it should. Never any problems with the outline numbering as such
(Thanks, Shauna Kelly!).

My heading levels 1 - 5 are set up i a very simple fashion, but I also have
alternative styles on all 5 levels, depending on the kind of document I
create. A brief example of heading styles on level 1:

"Heading 1" (AvantGarde 14 pt Bold) (Built-in style)
"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) (based on Heading 1)
"Heading 1 Sans" (AvantGarde 11 pt Bold) (based on Heading 1)

If I format a paragraph in the document with "Heading 1 Serif", and I also
select to start renumbering (quite common in an instruction sheet) from this
paragraph onwards, then the "Heading 1 Serif" paragraph inherits the
formatting (including font, size and other attributes) of the style "Heading
1", i.e. the default level 1 style. The style name also changes to "Heading
1".

How do I prevent the style "Heading 1 Serif" from inheriting the formats
(style) of "Heading 1"?

Best regards,


Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden




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Klaus,

Thanks for your reply and my apologies for not responding quicker, but I
came down with flu-like symptoms.

Anyhow, I appreciate you explanation about Word not being designed for
several styles at a given level (which I was unware of), why one solution
would obviously be what Cyber Taz suggested above, "not linking to", or I
guess one could also leave the basic styles in the normal.dot, and then use
different templates depending on the required document format, even though
this is not as convenient.

Once again, many thank for you help.

Best regards,

Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden




"Klaus Linke" wrote in message
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Hi Eric,

Word isn't designed to allow several styles at a given list level. You can
fake it (as you did) by basing other styles on numbered styles linked to
some list template, but that is only a hack, and the issues you get
("Heading 1 Serif" changing back to "Heading 1") are not really avoidable.

I fear you have to live with it (and fix the errors by hand), or change to
a simpler numbering scheme...

:-( Klaus



"Eric G" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...

Hello,



I have set up my styles in the "normal.dot" and my outline numbering works
the way it should. Never any problems with the outline numbering as such
(Thanks, Shauna Kelly!).

My heading levels 1 - 5 are set up i a very simple fashion, but I also
have alternative styles on all 5 levels, depending on the kind of document
I create. A brief example of heading styles on level 1:

"Heading 1" (AvantGarde 14 pt Bold) (Built-in style)
"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) (based on Heading
1)
"Heading 1 Sans" (AvantGarde 11 pt Bold) (based on Heading 1)

If I format a paragraph in the document with "Heading 1 Serif", and I also
select to start renumbering (quite common in an instruction sheet) from
this paragraph onwards, then the "Heading 1 Serif" paragraph inherits the
formatting (including font, size and other attributes) of the style
"Heading 1", i.e. the default level 1 style. The style name also changes
to "Heading 1".

How do I prevent the style "Heading 1 Serif" from inheriting the formats
(style) of "Heading 1"?

Best regards,


Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden








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Hello CyberTaz,

Thanks for your reply and my apologies for not responding quicker, but I
came down with flu-like symptoms.

Well, I had been thinking about this "based on" could be part of the
problem, and you're absolutely right. Removing the "based on" solves the
problem, and I haven't yet seen any negative consequences as yet, but Klaus,
in the message below, might also have a point about Word not being designed
for more than one style per level. I'll have a got at this and then we'll
see.

You assistance is much appreciated.

Best regards,

Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden





"CyberTaz" wrote in message
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Hi Eric -

I believe the bulk of the problem is described in your own words:

"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) *(based on Heading
1)*


The H1Serif is inheriting from H1 because it is *Based On* it. Modifying
the
parent style passes the common atribute changes on to the children.

If you don't want a style to change, don't base it on another.

HTH |:)

"Eric G" wrote:


Hello,



I have set up my styles in the "normal.dot" and my outline numbering
works the way it should. Never any problems with the outline numbering as
such (Thanks, Shauna Kelly!).

My heading levels 1 - 5 are set up i a very simple fashion, but I also
have alternative styles on all 5 levels, depending on the kind of
document I create. A brief example of heading styles on level 1:

"Heading 1" (AvantGarde 14 pt Bold) (Built-in style)
"Heading 1 Serif" (Palatino LT Std 11 pt Normal) (based on Heading
1)
"Heading 1 Sans" (AvantGarde 11 pt Bold) (based on Heading 1)

If I format a paragraph in the document with "Heading 1 Serif", and I
also select to start renumbering (quite common in an instruction sheet)
from this paragraph onwards, then the "Heading 1 Serif" paragraph
inherits the formatting (including font, size and other attributes) of
the style "Heading 1", i.e. the default level 1 style. The style name
also changes to "Heading 1".

How do I prevent the style "Heading 1 Serif" from inheriting the formats
(style) of "Heading 1"?

Best regards,


Eric G,
Stockholm, Sweden





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