[Jan Kucera]

Hi,
in the Manage Styles dialog, I found that the style called "Table Grid",
which new tables use, defines a language: "Font: English (United States),
....". But I don't see the way how to change it, the menu under Format button
does not contain Language item as when modifying a paragraph style.

If you have any idea how could I change or clear the language, please let
me know.
Jan

[Jan Kucera]

I've managed to do so by editing the docx file manually, but I wonder if I
missed something in the Word UI.
Jan


"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi,
in the Manage Styles dialog, I found that the style called "Table Grid",
which new tables use, defines a language: "Font: English (United States),
...". But I don't see the way how to change it, the menu under Format
button does not contain Language item as when modifying a paragraph style.

If you have any idea how could I change or clear the language, please let
me know.
Jan

[Stefan Blom]

Try changing the language of the Normal style.

See also this article (but note it wasn't targeted directly at Word 2007):

Get control of language formatting in Word
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister/LangFmt.htm

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Jan Kucera" wrote:

I've managed to do so by editing the docx file manually, but I wonder if I
missed something in the Word UI.
Jan


"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi,
in the Manage Styles dialog, I found that the style called "Table Grid",
which new tables use, defines a language: "Font: English (United States),
...". But I don't see the way how to change it, the menu under Format
button does not contain Language item as when modifying a paragraph style.

If you have any idea how could I change or clear the language, please let
me know.
Jan

[Jan Kucera]

Hi Stefan,
thank you for try.

Try changing the language of the Normal style.
This is the problem... "But I don't see the way how to change it, the menu
under Format button
does not contain Language item as when modifying a paragraph style."

I've used the style inspector and manager and I've found that the language
comes from the table style, so changing the language of whole document,
either in every document or in the Normal template would not work (the table
style would override that).

I'm wondering this is a bug. Not the bad language set, but no UI way to
change the setting.

Cindy does not cover this problem, except the "Note, however, that this will
not affect headers, footers and some other areas that are not included in a
Ctrl+A selection. These will have to be selected and formatted separately."
which brings us back to the problem I have - no way to format it
separately - and "Another possibility is to save in RTF or HTML-Format, then
go into the source code and change/remove the language formatting." which I
particularly did with the docx package itself.

Jan

[Stefan Blom]

I was referring to the Normal *paragraph style.* Click Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S to
display the Styles pane. Right-click the Normal entry and click Modify
Style. In the dialog box, click Format, Language. What is its setting for
language?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Stefan,
thank you for try.

Try changing the language of the Normal style.
This is the problem... "But I don't see the way how to change it, the menu
under Format button
does not contain Language item as when modifying a paragraph style."

I've used the style inspector and manager and I've found that the language
comes from the table style, so changing the language of whole document,
either in every document or in the Normal template would not work (the
table style would override that).

I'm wondering this is a bug. Not the bad language set, but no UI way to
change the setting.

Cindy does not cover this problem, except the "Note, however, that this
will not affect headers, footers and some other areas that are not
included in a Ctrl+A selection. These will have to be selected and
formatted separately." which brings us back to the problem I have - no way
to format it separately - and "Another possibility is to save in RTF or
HTML-Format, then go into the source code and change/remove the language
formatting." which I particularly did with the docx package itself.

Jan

[Jan Kucera]

Oh sorry for my misunderstanding. But the Normal paragraph style does not
define any language.
Although I have done everything to not repro this with new document I've
created you an example from the problematic one.. see attached document.
When you open "Reveal Formatting" task pane and check to display style
source, you can see that the text inside table has its language from the
Table Grid style. If you find in the Word a way to change it, let me know!

Jan


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I was referring to the Normal *paragraph style.* Click Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S to
display the Styles pane. Right-click the Normal entry and click Modify
Style. In the dialog box, click Format, Language. What is its setting for
language?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Stefan,
thank you for try.

Try changing the language of the Normal style.
This is the problem... "But I don't see the way how to change it, the
menu
under Format button
does not contain Language item as when modifying a paragraph style."

I've used the style inspector and manager and I've found that the
language
comes from the table style, so changing the language of whole document,
either in every document or in the Normal template would not work (the
table style would override that).

I'm wondering this is a bug. Not the bad language set, but no UI way to
change the setting.

Cindy does not cover this problem, except the "Note, however, that this
will not affect headers, footers and some other areas that are not
included in a Ctrl+A selection. These will have to be selected and
formatted separately." which brings us back to the problem I have - no
way
to format it separately - and "Another possibility is to save in RTF or
HTML-Format, then go into the source code and change/remove the language
formatting." which I particularly did with the docx package itself.

Jan

[Stefan Blom]

You are definitely right: the language formatting seems to be in the table
style. That is very peculiar! However, you can fix the issue by copying the
Table Grid style from a different document or template.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Oh sorry for my misunderstanding. But the Normal paragraph style does not
define any language.
Although I have done everything to not repro this with new document I've
created you an example from the problematic one.. see attached document.
When you open "Reveal Formatting" task pane and check to display style
source, you can see that the text inside table has its language from the
Table Grid style. If you find in the Word a way to change it, let me know!

Jan


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
I was referring to the Normal *paragraph style.* Click Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S
to
display the Styles pane. Right-click the Normal entry and click Modify
Style. In the dialog box, click Format, Language. What is its setting for
language?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
Hi Stefan,
thank you for try.

Try changing the language of the Normal style.
This is the problem... "But I don't see the way how to change it, the
menu
under Format button
does not contain Language item as when modifying a paragraph style."

I've used the style inspector and manager and I've found that the
language
comes from the table style, so changing the language of whole document,
either in every document or in the Normal template would not work (the
table style would override that).

I'm wondering this is a bug. Not the bad language set, but no UI way to
change the setting.

Cindy does not cover this problem, except the "Note, however, that this
will not affect headers, footers and some other areas that are not
included in a Ctrl+A selection. These will have to be selected and
formatted separately." which brings us back to the problem I have - no
way
to format it separately - and "Another possibility is to save in RTF or
HTML-Format, then go into the source code and change/remove the language
formatting." which I particularly did with the docx package itself.

Jan

[Jan Kucera]

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You are definitely right: the language formatting seems to be in the table
style. That is very peculiar! However, you can fix the issue by copying
the
Table Grid style from a different document or template.

That's true, thank you for that idea.
Although I have no idea how the langue was set (or how I have managed to set
it) on the table style, if it is valid setting, there should be an option to
modify the language for table style as well.

I am glad that I'm not just crazy. ;-) Thank you for getting into it.

Jan

[Stefan Blom]

"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You are definitely right: the language formatting seems to be in the
table
style. That is very peculiar! However, you can fix the issue by copying
the
Table Grid style from a different document or template.

That's true, thank you for that idea.
Although I have no idea how the langue was set (or how I have managed to
set it) on the table style, if it is valid setting, there should be an
option to modify the language for table style as well.

I am glad that I'm not just crazy. ;-) Thank you for getting into it.

Jan


It's hard to tell if the setting is valid. In my opinion, Word shouldn't let
you specify *paragraph* settings for tables either, but it does. :-(

Anyway, you should definitely be able to edit all aspects of a style via the
user interface.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

[Stefan Blom]

Follow-up...

A different way to fix this is to use a simple macro:

ActiveDocument.Styles("Table Grid").LanguageID = wdEnglishUS

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
"Jan Kucera" wrote in message
...
"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
You are definitely right: the language formatting seems to be in the
table
style. That is very peculiar! However, you can fix the issue by copying
the
Table Grid style from a different document or template.

That's true, thank you for that idea.
Although I have no idea how the langue was set (or how I have managed to
set it) on the table style, if it is valid setting, there should be an
option to modify the language for table style as well.

I am glad that I'm not just crazy. ;-) Thank you for getting into it.

Jan


It's hard to tell if the setting is valid. In my opinion, Word shouldn't
let
you specify *paragraph* settings for tables either, but it does. :-(

Anyway, you should definitely be able to edit all aspects of a style via
the
user interface.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP