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Old January 14th 08, 12:23 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
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Default Change Styles vs Themes

In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them have the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks

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Old January 14th 08, 01:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Tony Jollans
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Default Change Styles vs Themes

Individual Styles can reference Theme settings. If they do, and the theme is
changed, the styles will immediately reflect the change. If you change the
style to not use theme values then changes in the theme will no longer
affect document elements in the style.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"Office_user" wrote in message
...
In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them have
the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks


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Old January 14th 08, 02:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
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Default Change Styles vs Themes

Thanks a lot Tony. But what I really don't understand is the difference
between applying different style colors, fonts, sets using the
"HomeStylesChange Style" command, and doing that through the Themes group
commands. In other words.. why are they separated as TWO different features,
although they result in the same effects?

Thank you for your concern

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

Individual Styles can reference Theme settings. If they do, and the theme is
changed, the styles will immediately reflect the change. If you change the
style to not use theme values then changes in the theme will no longer
affect document elements in the style.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"Office_user" wrote in message
...
In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them have
the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks



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Old January 14th 08, 02:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Aeneas
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Default Change Styles vs Themes


Some random thoughts:

You cannot enter text in a default document without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme (one and only one active; “Office” is
the default) and the active Quick Style set (one and only one active; “Word
2007” is the default) nor can you enter graphics without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme and typically a Quick Style appropriate
to that type of graphic (picture, shape, SmartArt, chart, text box, WordArt)

Document Themes:
Document themes are 20 professionally-designed, named COLLECTIONS of
formatting settings for both text (principally fonts, font color and the
colors for borders and shading for selections of text, paragraphs and tables
and banding for tables) and graphics (colors, outline, fill and special
effects) that apply a professional-looking, aesthetically-appealing design to
all types of text and graphics in an entire document
Each default document theme applies an a TRIO of COLLECTIONS of formatting
settings (one set of theme colors, one set of theme fonts and one set of
theme effects)
Sets of theme colors – specify a named color scheme (not a single color)
that affects font colors, borders and shading as well as the outline color
and fill color for graphics; there are 20 available named sets of theme
colors with the same name as the document theme plus 1 set (grayscale) to
total 21 sets
Sets of theme fonts – specify for the entire document the placeholder font
pair (+Body and +Headings) that determines the font of the Normal style,
heading styles and nearly all other paragraph styles, linked styles and
character styles via inheritance from the Normal style; the font pair is the
same for a given document theme no matter which Quick Style set is active
unless you intentionally change the font pair; there are 23 available named
sets of theme fonts with the same name as the document theme for 20 of these
sets
Sets of theme effects – specify for graphics only the outline effects,
fill effects and special effects such as shadow and 3-D effects; there are 20
available named sets of theme effects with the same name as the document theme

One set from each of the three types of sets can be mixed and matched to
create thousands of different combinations (21 sets of theme colors x 23 sets
of Theme Fonts x 20 sets of Theme Effects = 9,660)
When combined with the 11 available Quick Style sets, there are over 100,000
available combinations
Moreover, each of the theme sets can be customized and saved in a
user-defined document theme that can be used in other documents

Quick Style Sets
The power of document themes is also markedly increased when combined with
the power of the 11 built-in Quick Style sets (paragraph styles including
most types of list styles, linked styles and character styles only) and Table
Quick Styles and graphics Quick Styles which work “hand and glove” with
document themes
The settings in each document theme for font and color are propagated
through all 11 different types of Quick Styles; the actual number of each
type of Quick Styles is 30 or more for each document theme; for selections of
text and paragraphs combined, there are 25 times 11 Quick Styles available in
the 11 Quick Style sets
Those Quick Styles update their fonts and/or colors (theme colors only)
and/or effects (graphics only); every different document theme effectively
creating a brand new set of 30+ Quick Styles

Changing the document theme will also change directly formatted colors
chosen from any named color slot in a color picker; it does not, however,
affect standard colors
Hence, when you apply a different document theme or theme color scheme, the
font colors, border colors or shading color of text to which these styles
have been applied will change.




"Office_user" wrote:

In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them have the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks

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Old January 14th 08, 03:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
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Default Change Styles vs Themes

Hi Aeneas,

Thanks a lot for your precious effort. However, I think that the advantage
of combinations variety can be achieved without separating the two features.
I mean if the Style Set property moved to be included in the Themes commands
group, we will have the same result using just one group of commands.
Moreover, the Change Styles command will be then a duplication of the same
feature.

What do you think?


"Aeneas" wrote:


Some random thoughts:

You cannot enter text in a default document without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme (one and only one active; “Office” is
the default) and the active Quick Style set (one and only one active; “Word
2007” is the default) nor can you enter graphics without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme and typically a Quick Style appropriate
to that type of graphic (picture, shape, SmartArt, chart, text box, WordArt)

Document Themes:
Document themes are 20 professionally-designed, named COLLECTIONS of
formatting settings for both text (principally fonts, font color and the
colors for borders and shading for selections of text, paragraphs and tables
and banding for tables) and graphics (colors, outline, fill and special
effects) that apply a professional-looking, aesthetically-appealing design to
all types of text and graphics in an entire document
Each default document theme applies an a TRIO of COLLECTIONS of formatting
settings (one set of theme colors, one set of theme fonts and one set of
theme effects)
Sets of theme colors – specify a named color scheme (not a single color)
that affects font colors, borders and shading as well as the outline color
and fill color for graphics; there are 20 available named sets of theme
colors with the same name as the document theme plus 1 set (grayscale) to
total 21 sets
Sets of theme fonts – specify for the entire document the placeholder font
pair (+Body and +Headings) that determines the font of the Normal style,
heading styles and nearly all other paragraph styles, linked styles and
character styles via inheritance from the Normal style; the font pair is the
same for a given document theme no matter which Quick Style set is active
unless you intentionally change the font pair; there are 23 available named
sets of theme fonts with the same name as the document theme for 20 of these
sets
Sets of theme effects – specify for graphics only the outline effects,
fill effects and special effects such as shadow and 3-D effects; there are 20
available named sets of theme effects with the same name as the document theme

One set from each of the three types of sets can be mixed and matched to
create thousands of different combinations (21 sets of theme colors x 23 sets
of Theme Fonts x 20 sets of Theme Effects = 9,660)
When combined with the 11 available Quick Style sets, there are over 100,000
available combinations
Moreover, each of the theme sets can be customized and saved in a
user-defined document theme that can be used in other documents

Quick Style Sets
The power of document themes is also markedly increased when combined with
the power of the 11 built-in Quick Style sets (paragraph styles including
most types of list styles, linked styles and character styles only) and Table
Quick Styles and graphics Quick Styles which work “hand and glove” with
document themes
The settings in each document theme for font and color are propagated
through all 11 different types of Quick Styles; the actual number of each
type of Quick Styles is 30 or more for each document theme; for selections of
text and paragraphs combined, there are 25 times 11 Quick Styles available in
the 11 Quick Style sets
Those Quick Styles update their fonts and/or colors (theme colors only)
and/or effects (graphics only); every different document theme effectively
creating a brand new set of 30+ Quick Styles

Changing the document theme will also change directly formatted colors
chosen from any named color slot in a color picker; it does not, however,
affect standard colors
Hence, when you apply a different document theme or theme color scheme, the
font colors, border colors or shading color of text to which these styles
have been applied will change.




"Office_user" wrote:

In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them have the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks

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Old January 14th 08, 04:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Aeneas
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Default Change Styles vs Themes

If Word 2007 existed in a vacuum, I might agree with your sentiments. Word is
part of a family of products that includes Excel and PowerPoint. Themes work
across all these applications (and even Outllok) so that you can create
documents, spreadsheets and presentations that are aesthetically consistent
with one another. The handling of text in each application is different. Word
benefits greatly from the extraordinary flexibility in text formatting
offered by Quick Style sets that would have no practical application in
either Excel or PowerPoint. These sets may by default be integrated with
document themes re the font pair, colors, etc. but they offer far more --
just examine the definitions of the main styles in a typical set (Normal,
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc.).

I'm glad you've discovered both of these features (document themes and Quick
Style sets). You are an all too rare case. I learned about their
extraordinary power by mixing and matching document themes and Quick Style
sets using live preview as well as mixing and matching the 3 set of theme
elements. Good luck!

"Office_user" wrote:

Hi Aeneas,

Thanks a lot for your precious effort. However, I think that the advantage
of combinations variety can be achieved without separating the two features.
I mean if the Style Set property moved to be included in the Themes commands
group, we will have the same result using just one group of commands.
Moreover, the Change Styles command will be then a duplication of the same
feature.

What do you think?


"Aeneas" wrote:


Some random thoughts:

You cannot enter text in a default document without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme (one and only one active; “Office” is
the default) and the active Quick Style set (one and only one active; “Word
2007” is the default) nor can you enter graphics without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme and typically a Quick Style appropriate
to that type of graphic (picture, shape, SmartArt, chart, text box, WordArt)

Document Themes:
Document themes are 20 professionally-designed, named COLLECTIONS of
formatting settings for both text (principally fonts, font color and the
colors for borders and shading for selections of text, paragraphs and tables
and banding for tables) and graphics (colors, outline, fill and special
effects) that apply a professional-looking, aesthetically-appealing design to
all types of text and graphics in an entire document
Each default document theme applies an a TRIO of COLLECTIONS of formatting
settings (one set of theme colors, one set of theme fonts and one set of
theme effects)
Sets of theme colors – specify a named color scheme (not a single color)
that affects font colors, borders and shading as well as the outline color
and fill color for graphics; there are 20 available named sets of theme
colors with the same name as the document theme plus 1 set (grayscale) to
total 21 sets
Sets of theme fonts – specify for the entire document the placeholder font
pair (+Body and +Headings) that determines the font of the Normal style,
heading styles and nearly all other paragraph styles, linked styles and
character styles via inheritance from the Normal style; the font pair is the
same for a given document theme no matter which Quick Style set is active
unless you intentionally change the font pair; there are 23 available named
sets of theme fonts with the same name as the document theme for 20 of these
sets
Sets of theme effects – specify for graphics only the outline effects,
fill effects and special effects such as shadow and 3-D effects; there are 20
available named sets of theme effects with the same name as the document theme

One set from each of the three types of sets can be mixed and matched to
create thousands of different combinations (21 sets of theme colors x 23 sets
of Theme Fonts x 20 sets of Theme Effects = 9,660)
When combined with the 11 available Quick Style sets, there are over 100,000
available combinations
Moreover, each of the theme sets can be customized and saved in a
user-defined document theme that can be used in other documents

Quick Style Sets
The power of document themes is also markedly increased when combined with
the power of the 11 built-in Quick Style sets (paragraph styles including
most types of list styles, linked styles and character styles only) and Table
Quick Styles and graphics Quick Styles which work “hand and glove” with
document themes
The settings in each document theme for font and color are propagated
through all 11 different types of Quick Styles; the actual number of each
type of Quick Styles is 30 or more for each document theme; for selections of
text and paragraphs combined, there are 25 times 11 Quick Styles available in
the 11 Quick Style sets
Those Quick Styles update their fonts and/or colors (theme colors only)
and/or effects (graphics only); every different document theme effectively
creating a brand new set of 30+ Quick Styles

Changing the document theme will also change directly formatted colors
chosen from any named color slot in a color picker; it does not, however,
affect standard colors
Hence, when you apply a different document theme or theme color scheme, the
font colors, border colors or shading color of text to which these styles
have been applied will change.




"Office_user" wrote:

In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them have the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks

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Old January 14th 08, 05:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Tony Jollans
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Default Change Styles vs Themes

They may give the same effect with a single change because there is a
relationship between the two, but if you change the style (rather than the
theme) then you break that relationship and later theme changes will no
longer affect the styles.

When you change a Theme it may affect many styles all at once - all those
that are set to theme values. By changing a theme you can completely change
the look of a document. Themes are also a common feature across various
Office 2007 applications so that consistent changes can be easily made to
the appearance of many documents, presentations, etc.

As soon as you start setting styles to non-theme elements they are
effectively hard coded and stand-alone and any future changes must be
explicitly made to each such style.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"Office_user" wrote in message
...
Thanks a lot Tony. But what I really don't understand is the difference
between applying different style colors, fonts, sets using the
"HomeStylesChange Style" command, and doing that through the Themes
group
commands. In other words.. why are they separated as TWO different
features,
although they result in the same effects?

Thank you for your concern

"Tony Jollans" wrote:

Individual Styles can reference Theme settings. If they do, and the theme
is
changed, the styles will immediately reflect the change. If you change
the
style to not use theme values then changes in the theme will no longer
affect document elements in the style.

--
Enjoy,
Tony

"Office_user" wrote in message
...
In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them
have
the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks




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Old January 15th 08, 02:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
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Default Change Styles vs Themes

Thanks a lot Aeneas for your help and concern.. I'm finally convinced..

"Aeneas" wrote:

If Word 2007 existed in a vacuum, I might agree with your sentiments. Word is
part of a family of products that includes Excel and PowerPoint. Themes work
across all these applications (and even Outllok) so that you can create
documents, spreadsheets and presentations that are aesthetically consistent
with one another. The handling of text in each application is different. Word
benefits greatly from the extraordinary flexibility in text formatting
offered by Quick Style sets that would have no practical application in
either Excel or PowerPoint. These sets may by default be integrated with
document themes re the font pair, colors, etc. but they offer far more --
just examine the definitions of the main styles in a typical set (Normal,
Heading 1, Heading 2, etc.).

I'm glad you've discovered both of these features (document themes and Quick
Style sets). You are an all too rare case. I learned about their
extraordinary power by mixing and matching document themes and Quick Style
sets using live preview as well as mixing and matching the 3 set of theme
elements. Good luck!

"Office_user" wrote:

Hi Aeneas,

Thanks a lot for your precious effort. However, I think that the advantage
of combinations variety can be achieved without separating the two features.
I mean if the Style Set property moved to be included in the Themes commands
group, we will have the same result using just one group of commands.
Moreover, the Change Styles command will be then a duplication of the same
feature.

What do you think?


"Aeneas" wrote:


Some random thoughts:

You cannot enter text in a default document without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme (one and only one active; “Office” is
the default) and the active Quick Style set (one and only one active; “Word
2007” is the default) nor can you enter graphics without its formatting being
affected by the active document theme and typically a Quick Style appropriate
to that type of graphic (picture, shape, SmartArt, chart, text box, WordArt)

Document Themes:
Document themes are 20 professionally-designed, named COLLECTIONS of
formatting settings for both text (principally fonts, font color and the
colors for borders and shading for selections of text, paragraphs and tables
and banding for tables) and graphics (colors, outline, fill and special
effects) that apply a professional-looking, aesthetically-appealing design to
all types of text and graphics in an entire document
Each default document theme applies an a TRIO of COLLECTIONS of formatting
settings (one set of theme colors, one set of theme fonts and one set of
theme effects)
Sets of theme colors – specify a named color scheme (not a single color)
that affects font colors, borders and shading as well as the outline color
and fill color for graphics; there are 20 available named sets of theme
colors with the same name as the document theme plus 1 set (grayscale) to
total 21 sets
Sets of theme fonts – specify for the entire document the placeholder font
pair (+Body and +Headings) that determines the font of the Normal style,
heading styles and nearly all other paragraph styles, linked styles and
character styles via inheritance from the Normal style; the font pair is the
same for a given document theme no matter which Quick Style set is active
unless you intentionally change the font pair; there are 23 available named
sets of theme fonts with the same name as the document theme for 20 of these
sets
Sets of theme effects – specify for graphics only the outline effects,
fill effects and special effects such as shadow and 3-D effects; there are 20
available named sets of theme effects with the same name as the document theme

One set from each of the three types of sets can be mixed and matched to
create thousands of different combinations (21 sets of theme colors x 23 sets
of Theme Fonts x 20 sets of Theme Effects = 9,660)
When combined with the 11 available Quick Style sets, there are over 100,000
available combinations
Moreover, each of the theme sets can be customized and saved in a
user-defined document theme that can be used in other documents

Quick Style Sets
The power of document themes is also markedly increased when combined with
the power of the 11 built-in Quick Style sets (paragraph styles including
most types of list styles, linked styles and character styles only) and Table
Quick Styles and graphics Quick Styles which work “hand and glove” with
document themes
The settings in each document theme for font and color are propagated
through all 11 different types of Quick Styles; the actual number of each
type of Quick Styles is 30 or more for each document theme; for selections of
text and paragraphs combined, there are 25 times 11 Quick Styles available in
the 11 Quick Style sets
Those Quick Styles update their fonts and/or colors (theme colors only)
and/or effects (graphics only); every different document theme effectively
creating a brand new set of 30+ Quick Styles

Changing the document theme will also change directly formatted colors
chosen from any named color slot in a color picker; it does not, however,
affect standard colors
Hence, when you apply a different document theme or theme color scheme, the
font colors, border colors or shading color of text to which these styles
have been applied will change.




"Office_user" wrote:

In Word 2007, I want to know what is the difference between the Change
Styles property and the Themes property. It seems like both of them have the
same effect on the document contents.

Thanks

 




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