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Hi Peyton.
do you know about the SIL (Summer Institute of Linguistics) IPA fonts. You
can download them free from their web-site.
This is what I use for journal articles in linguistics. I admit I have
problems because the receiver has to have the font installed in their machine
to get them to print, but you can apply bold, italic and all the usual
formatting to them. And they come in three styles, sans serif (like Arial)
serif (like Times new roman) and courier (like a type writer).


"Peyton Todd" wrote:

Thanks, Suzanne.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The default line spacing of Times New Roman is 120%. This means that the
line spacing (or "leading") of 10-pt TNR is 12 points. For 12-pt TNR, it
would be 14.4 points. The built-in leading varies with the font, however,
which is why you get different leading when you mix fonts. Using "Exactly"
line spacing is the best solution if you're mixing fonts.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Suzanne, but I had already tried the Arial Unicode MS font. Yes,

it
seems to have the characters I need, but whenever I insert-- symbol one

of
them into the page, it adds a space after it, which looks dumb. Except

that
apparently it's not a space in the sense of an extra character since, if

you
backspace over it (a single keystroke), the character itself goes away

along
with the space. So it seems the character itself containg whitespace to

its
right.

What I had been using to get around that problem - part of the complicated
solution involving the Tavulsoft 'keyboard' I described earlier - turns

out
to be Lucida Sans Unicode. Experimenting Jezebel's solution of specifying

the
line spacing exactly, I was surprised that it seems to work! It's perhaps

not
exactly Jezebel's solution, which, as I read it, seemed to suggest making

the
line spacing big enough to accomodate the larger size of the symbols (even
though their stated pointsize was the same). Because I can REDUCE the line
spacing so it looks right!

I know very little about fonts. I was thinking of each character as a

single
bloc, like the hunks of metal I remember from print shop in high school
(Atlanta, Georgia, 1955). So I assumed it was just a certain size and

that's
it, which is why the line spacing got bigger when I added the character.

But
I find it lets me take it down further after all. Which suggests each font
must have a default area around each character.

But maybe that's not true, either, since Word lets me cut down the line
spacing down to where the characters on successive lines actually overlap
each other. Right now I have it down to 9pt., and the font itself is only

11
pt.

So now my only problem is that the Lucida Sans Unicode font looks like
boldface, which I wish it did not.

Also, I'm curious: What is the default line spacing of a Word document. I
believe that's what I had. When I take just any paragraph and go to Format
-- Paragraph Spacing -- Line spacing -- Exactly, it defaults to 12 pt.

But
to my eye, 12 pts look slightly smaller than my paragraphs.

Peyton

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

To add to what the others have said, I would suggest that you first look

at
the Latin Extended A and B and IPA Extensions character subsets of Times

New
Roman in Insert | Symbol. There are, as Pat has pointed out, built-in
keyboard shortcuts for many of these characters, and you can assign your

own
for any character. If these are not sufficient to your needs, then look

at
the Arial Unicode MS font (it comes with Windows but may not be

installed).
I think you'll find its IPA Extensions include everything you could

possibly
need. There is no reason you couldn't type your entire document in this
font, which your publisher is also bound to have.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
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"Peyton Todd" wrote in message
...
Hello. I expect this will be a tough question to answer.

A little detail first, then I'll get to my question...

I am writing a book in linguistics, and I don't have a publisher yet,

but
most tings written in the field tend to be in a font which looks like
Times
New Roman. And I believe lots of publishers nowadays just photocopy

what
you
send. So I'm writing the book in Times New Roman.

But I need to include a lot of examples of speech using the

International
Phonetic Alphabet. The fonts which come with Word don't have anywhere

near
the full set of symbols necessary, but I have found and installed a

font
which has everything I need. It's a complicated system involving a

program
called KeyMan by Tavelsoft Corp, and virtual 'keyboards', including

one
with
IPA symbols in Unicode. (Colleagues have reported getting drafts

rejected
by
publishers who didn't have the same plug-in they were using when they
wrote
their book or article.)

Well, the symbols look great, and they're easy to use (different
combinations of keystrokes lead to the desired characters, like typing
Ctrl +
~ and then 'n' to get an n with a tilde over it in Spanish, but a lot
moreso.

But here's my problem. When I stuff some symbols into a line, say as
follows:

asdf asdf asdf asdf xxxx adf asdf asdf afdf

where xxxx is the symbols, the line spacing between that line and the

one
before it widens. So all the other lines in the paragraph look fine,

both
the
lines before the one I put the symbols in, and the ones below that

line,
but
the paragraph looks funny. I can nearly fix this by reducing the

fontsize
of
the symbols by a couple of points (e.g. the Times New Roman in 11 pt.

and
the
symbols in 9 pt.), but now the symbols look small and silly.

By the way, the symbols are an Arial font. But that's apparently not

the
problem. I find it's possible to mix Arial and Times New Roman fonts

on a
line without this problem occurring as long as they're all regular
characters.

Any ideas?




everything ihaven't checked with the publisher yet, a linguist, and I

need
to write articles
--
Peyton Todd