Thanks, I see you worked hard for me. but none of it helps. I can't
delete the frame of the footer, there isn't any print layout, page
numbers work fine in fileprint preview, but I loose it when I save it.
My other files have no problem with page numbers, and they work fine
electronically and in printing. I can't send an editor a pdf file any
more than I can send him a brick. And he needs page numbers to
communicate with me.

thanks for trying tho, I see nobody else did.