[Joe McGuire]

Of course! Now I get it. How simple! (I said I was dense and I proved it,
even if nobody disagreed!) I think I was not focusing on the fact that each
section has 2 headers/footers if Different First Page is checked, and that
to eliminate the footer you have to get rid of the footer following each
section's first page. Thanks to you and Sue for your patience and
persistence!

"Jezebel" wrote in message
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It's just a simple mental block. Persevere, cos is ain't hard, even for
WordPerfect users.

Each section of a document can have one, two, or three footers: one for
all pages; one for the first page and one for all subsequent; or different
odd/even. Headers likewise.

By default, the same headers and footers are used throughout the document.
So if you make a change to a footer in section 1, that change appears in
all sections of the document.

You can 'break the chain' by going to any section, activating the header
or footer, and clearing the 'same as previous' button: that means that
changes to that header or footer do not affect the preceding sections. The
changes DO affect subsequent sections up to the next break in the chain,
if any. Note that you have to do this separately for each type of header
and footer (ie for the first/odd/even footers, depending on what you've
selected).

In your case, you have two footers: one for the first page of each
section, and one for the subsequent pages. In sections 2 and 3 you don't
see the subsequent page footer because those sections are only one page
each. Your first page footer (it seems) is empty; your subsequent page
footer includes a { PAGE } field. By the sounds of it, you need a
different footer for sections 2 and 3 (if they run to more than one page),
which does not display the page number: so go to the footer for section 2
and clear 'same as previous' then go to the footer of section 4 and do
likewise, then go back to section 2 and remove the page number from the
footer.







"Joe McGuire" wrote in message
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Thanks. I have read a bunch of things on fields, page numbering, etc.,
and apparently I am too dense to figure this out. My document is working
well enough (even if for the wrong reasons) and I ought to leave well
enough alone. As long as my sections 2, 3 and 4 are only 1 page long no
page numbers show up in those sections, which was my goal. It seems to
make no difference whether each section's footer is linked to the
previous footer or not. Seems the key is Different First page. As long
as that is checked for each section no page numbers show up. But if any
of those sections is larger than 1 page the page number appears starting
on page 2 of that section. So as long as I keep that in mind I am OK.
If ever I need any of those sections to be longer than a single page I
will jump off that bridge when I come to it. (My memory may be foggy
after all these years since WordPerfect was effectively wiped out by
Windows but I think I distantly recall the ability to suppress the page
numbering where desired. Oh well.)

"Jezebel" wrote in message
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{ SectionPages } is a field. If you don't want to see it, don't insert
the field. If you need the value for arithmetic elsewhere, format it as
hidden. Help will explain the \Arabic and \*MERGEFORMAT switches. You
will save yourself an amount of anguish if you read up on what fields are
and why to use them (given that you are using them already).

Also, read again the note on what 'different first page' does.


"Joe McGuire" wrote in message
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Thanks. I tried inserting the field SectionPages and ended up with
{SECTIONPAGES \ Arabic \*MERGEFORMAT }. Now the first page of each of
the added section starts with 1. Is there a way to get rid of this, at
least for the first page? I have checked different from first page wut
it seems to have no effect.

"Jezebel" wrote in message
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You're confusing several issues.

1. The 'Different first page' and 'Different odd and even' options on
p }age setup have nothing to do with page numbering. They control
whether you have different headers and footers on the first/odd/even
pages. These settings can be different for each section of the
document.

2. By default, each section of a document uses the same headers and
footers as the previous section; but it need not. The 'Same as
previous' button the Headers and Footers toolbar controls this.

3. You can restart the page numbering for any section by going to
Insert Page Numbers Format and setting the 'Start at' value.

4. Pages are always counted (as you observe). The page number is
*displayed* by inserting a { PAGE } field. If you click OK on the
Insert Page numbers dialog, Word automatically inserts a { PAGE }
field in the footer: but you can do this manually also, and put the
page number anywhere.

If you need to skip pages in your numbering, you can do arithmetic
with the page value, as for any other kind of calculation field, eg

{ = { PAGE } * 2 - 1 }

You can also use a { SECTIONPAGES } field to get the number of pages
in the current section.








"Joe McGuire" wrote in message
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This is embarassing. How do I end page numbering in a section of my
lengthy document without also wiping out the page numbers I actually
want to keep in the first section? The object is to have 20-30-40
numbered pages in a single section followed by 3 or 4 separate pages
with each preceded by a section break.

The gory details: I actually have 4 sections. Sections 2, 3 and 4
are just 1 page each and are actually preexisting documents I
inserted. Page numbering seems to end in sections 2 and 3, but
resumes in section 4--where the page numbering reflects the
unnumbered pages in the preceding sections, which are obviously being
counted if not displayed. When I checked Page Setup for sections 2
and 3 I found that it was set fo Different First Page, whereas
section 4 was not. I changed this setting and now section 4 does not
show any page number. But obviously, the page numbering is still
there, just not displayed for the first page of the section. If the
sections were longer than a single page I would be stuck.