Yes, I'm sorry if I was not totally clear on this; it is much easier to see
if you Alt+F9 to toggle the TOC field; then you can see that all your
paragraph marks are inside the field.
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"Michelle White" wrote in message
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Bless you! That solved the problem.
I see now that when the TOC is inserted immediately before a Heading 1 (or
any style that has the "page break before" selected) the only way to do
any
formatting out of the TOC field is to have the typing cursor immediately
in
front of the Heading 1 text (in this case). I was inserting the section
break
at the end of the TOC (after creating paragraph breaks that were just
extending the TOC field, not getting outside of it) instead of at the
beginning of the next section.
Thanks so much!
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I have *never* encountered this type of problem unless the paragraphs
were
inside the TOC field.
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"Michelle White" wrote in
message
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Actually, I had tried Shauna's suggestion; tried 1, 2, 3, 15, etc.
paragraph
breaks followed by a section break. It doesn't matter whether it's 1
or
more
returns, whether there is text typed in some lines, etc. Everything
that
exists on the last page of the TOC that is not part of the automatic
TOC
is
deleted during an update. It's too bad there not a selection for
'section
break before' in the paragraph settings because that does seem to
work. I
have been experimenting and the only thing that seemed to hold was
multiple
section breaks, so now, in order to have a section break after my TOC,
I
have
to have 2 blank pages (front and back) between the TOC and the first
chapter.
Again, I have not had a problem with this aspect of formatting
before - it
would be interesting to find out what is causing it to be a problem.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I believe the question *was* answered. You *must* have a paragraph
break
after the TOC before any page or section break to keep it from being
absorbed into the TOC field. This is easier to see if you view field
codes.
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"Michelle White" Michelle wrote in
message
...
It seems to me that the original question was never answered. I
too am
experiencing the original problem - updating the TOC causes the
section
break
at the end of the table of contents to be deleted. Actually,
ANYTHING
added
to the last page of the table of contents is deleted when the TOC
is
updated
(I use Ctrl+A then F9 to go ahead and update all crossreferences
in
the
document at the same time). I am using XP with Office 2003.
At a previous job I used Windows XP and Office 2003 and did not
have
this
problem. I use Heading 1 to begin the page after the TOC and that
style
is
set to have a page break before, however, I also need a section
break
so
that
I can page number the TOC with Roman numerals and restart page
numbering
(1,2,3...) in section 2 which is the first chapter of the manual.
I would guess this is a bug, maybe related to a setting in
Options,
but I
sure can't figure it out. I've been doing this for 2 years with XP
and
Office
2003, written probably 20+ different operator's manuals and have
not
had
this
problem until the new installation on a new computer.
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
And if all you need is a page break, don't use a manual page
break
(Ctrl+Enter); instead, format the heading itself as "Page break
before"
(Format | Paragraph | Line and Page Breaks).
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"Peter Kryszak" wrote
in
message
news
Well, after a bit more fiddling and realizing that Alt-F9
allows
me to
put
the breaks where they should be I think I have it fixed. I
think
there is
a
bug in the section insertion when in Print View that puts it
in
the
wrong
place even though it looks correct at first. The TOC and
following
Heading 1
text are displayed together when the TOC is refreshed.
Anyway, use View Normal and Alt-F9. Move the {TOC...} junk up
a
bit
using
extra paragraph marks to separate it from the following
Heading 1
text. I
had to select the {TOC} tag and Remove Formatting and do this
for
some
of
the
paragraph marks too.
Then I had to reapply the formatting to what should have been
Heading
1
text
and add back the page break. Maybe that should have been a
section
break;
I'll try that now.
Thanks to Shauna for the clue of using Alt-F9. I really do
think
there
is
a bug in either the placement of the section/page break and/or
in
the
TOC
update code that swallows the paragraph marks and breaks.
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Peter Kryszak
TeleCommunication Systems, Inc.