[Stefan Blom]

Being suspicious is (sometimes) a good strategy, I suspect. g

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I'm always suspicious of people who say they need more than nine
levels
because I've found so many of them that think they need Heading 1
for the
first heading (at a given level), Heading 2 for the second, etc.
It's a bit
more difficult to believe, but some people will even set up outline
numbering levels for simple lists, setting the numbering to start
from 2 on
Level 2, 3 on Level 3, etc. So I try to probe a bit to bring out any
information that might confirm that this misconception is involved.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
Too many list levels would be equally confusing for the writer, I
believe.
:-)

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Microsoft Word MVP


"Jezebel" wrote:

Caveat lector! This is functionality to make life easier for
*writers*.



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You need more than nine levels of numbering in a single list?
Gack! I
wouldn't want to be the one who was trying to figure out the
1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 level of subheadings.

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"Jim Perullo" Jim wrote in
message
news Just another voice in the noise of the crowd: I could
definitely use
more
levels - stopping at nine (9) is quite limiting for
Bill-of-Materials
work
and other logical listing purposes.

"J. Knoernschild" wrote:

Two things - one, isn't it Microsoft's responsability to
include
this
available option as they need to appeal to many users - and
not
just
limit a
feature because only 60,000 people might need it out of 2
million.
Second,
how can you customize styles or templates for automatic
outlined
numbering
greater than 10 when word is limited to 9?

"Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote:

I'm guessing that the need for more than 9 levels is
rare. Most
users
seldom
need more than 4 or 5 levels, as most. Note that Word's
built-in
Heading
levels go only from 1 to 9 as well.

That said, almost anything is possible in Word if one is
willing
to
invest
the time/money to setting it up. If your company
routinely needs
12-13
numbering levels, and if they're committed to staying
with Word,
it
would
make sense to develop templates that do this for you --
including
styles,
tools and macros to make it transparent to the user.
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"J. Knoernschild"
wrote
in
message

...
Suzanne,

I strongly believe that Microsoft should come out with
an
update to
fix
this. At Boeing we must write Performance
Specifications all
the
time and
to
not have more than 9 levels is impossible to create a
spec.
Often
times
are
specs go as deep at 12-13 levels.

I rely on the custom numbering schemes when writing a
spec and
not
having
this feature limits my use of Microsoft Word. I must
say that
I am
rather
disappointed in the reasoning for not making this list
larger.

Thanks,

J

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Really the best place to pursue this inquiry is in the
.numbering
NG. The
regulars who post there know far more about numbering
than I
ever
will. I
remain skeptical, however, that the functionality
you're
seeking
was ever
available in Word.

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"F. James Little"

wrote
in
message

...
Suzanne,

Thanks for the reply. I had actually thought of
trying to
nest
the
lists,
but when I tried it, I was unable to get it to
work... (I'm
sure
there
is
some trick to it.) When I tried, it would continue
to treat
the
nested
list
as a continuation of the Parent list, and would not
allow
any
further
indentations to occur.

A reply from Robert to this same question on the
Word.Numbering
forum
contained a link which may have offered a solution
to the
nesting
issue.
If
you know of a simple method using just the interface
to nest
list, I
would
love to hearit!

Thanks again for your help.

F. James Little
Sr. Software Engineer

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You can have as many level of indents and bullets
as you
like
because
there
is no issue with restarting numbering after a
certain
level.
You can
apply
any bullet you like to any style you like with any
indent
you
like.
You
could even, I imagine, have multiple
outline-numbered
lists
(nested),
but
you can't have more than nine levels within a
given list.

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Words into Type
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"F. James Little"

wrote in
message

...
Graham,

I would have to disagree with you that an
outline 9 0r
more
levels
deep
would be incomprehensible. I would think that
it would
be
very
much
dependent upon the intent of the document and
its
intended
document.
In
the
particular case I am attempting to document the
architecture
of an
object
oriented software module by creating an outline
of
pseudopodia.
(This
to
be
accompanied by UML diagrams developed in Visio.)
The
logic
of this
particular module easily goes to more than 20
levels
deep,
and this
is
not
a
particularly complicated module. To an audience
of
fellow
Software
Engineers, I can assure you that the resulting
pseudopodia
outline
would
be
completely comprehensible.

In any case, I believe that setting the limit to
9
levels is
somewhat
arbitrary, and I believe that Microsoft should
not place
limits
upon
users
within its applications unless there is a
resource
limitation
or
documented
requirement to do so. Given how buggy the
numbered
outline
seems
to
be in
Word, perhaps it is in fact a resource
limitation that
forces
the
limit to
be
9. It seems to me that earlier versions of the
MS Word
supported
more, if
not unlimited, levels when bullets and numbers
could be
set
to
multilevel
prior to the advent of the specific numbered
outline
option.
(The
numbered
outline may have been available in previous
versions,
but if
it was
it
was
not the default as it is today; the simple
bulleted
format
was the
default
which could be customized to multiple levels.)

If I am correct on the above, then this would
seem to be
a
case of
lost
functionality. (A major, "your going to hell"
sin in my
industry.)
In
any
case, if Word is not going to support more than
9
levels,
why
then
does
customization dialog present the level selection
in a
scrollable
list
control
with all 9 levels visible in the list? The
scrollbar is
disabled
because
there is nothing to scroll to, but it is
nonetheless
there.
If
there
was
not
the intent to support more levels, why then
allow the
scrollbar to
be
present
al all! It is very confusing to the user in that
it
gives
the
impression
that
there may be a circumstance when the scroll bar
may be
active.
(Believe
me,
I have spent the better part of a morning
looking for
just
such a
circumstance.) If the Microsoft Word
development team
did
not
intend
there
to ever be more than 9 levels, then it would
have been a
simple
matter
through code to prevent the listbox from
displaying a
vertical
scroll
bar!
(I believe the vertical scrollbar is a holdover
from
previous
versions
where
more than 9 levels were supported.)

So, my question still stands... why does MS Word
not
support
more
than