Thanks for understanding. Just keep in mind that we're all equally
frustrated. FWIW, every book I've typeset (well, at least every one that had
pictures) was a carefully handcrafted production for just this reason.

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"Matt" wrote in message
...
I apologize if my frustration has been showing through. I think I
understand
what you're telling me and it's consistent with my understanding of how
Word
works. My frustration is not with your excellent assistance; my
frustration
is with Microsoft for not addressing this fundamental issue. If I have to
do
a bunch of manual formatting on a book-length project then I might as well
move to a program like LaTeX. Alas!

Thanks for your help. Keep up the good work!

- Matt

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I understand exactly what you're trying to do. I'm telling you that Word
cannot do exactly that. I have described a situation that is the closest
you
will get under current conditions.

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"Matt" wrote in message
...
Well, I respect your knowledge but it just doesn't work that way for
the
situation I'm dealing with. I imagine that I'm not explaining things
well.
I
wish it were possible to show you a sample file. Thanks for your help.

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

No, you have misunderstood me. If you wrap text around the table (or
put
it
in a frame), then the table will appear at the top of the page where
it
is
referenced, but text will flow around it. If the text reference
flows
back
to the previous page, the table will go with it. The problem, of
course,
is
that there may be room for the reference but not the table, in which
case
you would have to move the anchor to a paragraph on the following
page
so
that it would be at the top of that page.

Personally, I find wrapped objects difficult to deal with, and I
avoid
them
except when I need to wrap text to the side of an object. My
preferred
approach is to avoid positioning objects until editing is complete,
then
go
through the document from start to finish, adjusting placement of
(inline)
objects in the edited pages.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Matt" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Suzanne.

Unfortunately, that technique can cause a break (and a bunch of
white
space)
on the previous page. Rather frustrating! Here is this expensive,
widely
used
word-processing program that can't automatically position tables
(and
other
objects) in a standard manner. Maybe Microsoft will change it in a
future
version.

Regardless, thank you for your assistance!

- Matt



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

The best you can do in current Word versions is to position the
(wrapped)
table as Top or Bottom Relative to Margins. It will always be on
the
same
page as the paragraph to which it is anchored (which should be
the
one
in
which it is referenced), but if you position it as Top, it may
be
above
the
text reference.

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Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"Matt Baretich" Matt wrote
in
message
...
I'm working on a book chapter. Here's the problem. Suppose I
have
a
table
(about one-half page long) that I want to appear at the first
available
space
after the paragraph that refers to the table.

This could be immediately below the paragraph if there's
enough
room
left
on
the page. Then the next paragraph would start right after the
table.

However, if there's not enough room left on the page I would
want
the
table
to go to the top of the next page. And I would want the next
paragraph
to
immediately follow the reference paragraph (not leave a bunch
of
white
space
on the page).

That seems like a very basic text layout function but I can't
figure
out
how
to do it in Word. I could manually position the table but I
hate
to
have
to
check each table and, if necessary, reposition it just because
I
do
some
editing early in the document.

Help! Thanks!

- Matt