[Chris Rile]

...and having a table pass over it..

Hi,

I have a document that I'm trying to make easier to use. This is a 'form'
(using the term loosly) where people will open up the template, edit fields
in the table on the form, and save it with a new name.

There are headers and footers on the form, and the second page's header has
to be a little different. So at the bottom of the table I added a section
break to do this.

This becomes a little difficult when people start to fill in the bottom half
of the table, as the height of each row will change as the cell expands due
to word wrap and the number of characters needed varies. This pushes the
remaining cells that were below to the next page along with the section
break. Careful deletion of rows to account for larger previous rows can be
used to work around this, but unfortunately not everyone is so careful.

Can I somehow anchor the section break to the bottom of the first page so
that I can have page 2 always start as section 2? It would be nice if, as
rows expand they just jumped over this section break... but I'm probably just
dreaming there... but I have to ask, is there a way?

Here's the document that I'm trying to describe,

http://www.auto-ic.com/saguaro/NH3UnloadingJSA.doc

to get an Idea of what I'm asking, try typing enough to expand the row
that's second from the bottom... and then look at what happens to the second
page.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Text (of any kind, including tables) cannot flow over a section break. If
you use a Next Page section break, then it will always start a new page,
but there's no guarantee it will be page 2. Instead of creating artificially
large rows, why not make the height of all of them Auto? FWIW, I am unable
to open the document you have posted; Word doesn't seem to recognize it as a
Word file.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Chris Rile" wrote in message
...
..and having a table pass over it..

Hi,

I have a document that I'm trying to make easier to use. This is a 'form'
(using the term loosly) where people will open up the template, edit
fields
in the table on the form, and save it with a new name.

There are headers and footers on the form, and the second page's header
has
to be a little different. So at the bottom of the table I added a section
break to do this.

This becomes a little difficult when people start to fill in the bottom
half
of the table, as the height of each row will change as the cell expands
due
to word wrap and the number of characters needed varies. This pushes the
remaining cells that were below to the next page along with the section
break. Careful deletion of rows to account for larger previous rows can be
used to work around this, but unfortunately not everyone is so careful.

Can I somehow anchor the section break to the bottom of the first page so
that I can have page 2 always start as section 2? It would be nice if, as
rows expand they just jumped over this section break... but I'm probably
just
dreaming there... but I have to ask, is there a way?

Here's the document that I'm trying to describe,

http://www.auto-ic.com/saguaro/NH3UnloadingJSA.doc

to get an Idea of what I'm asking, try typing enough to expand the row
that's second from the bottom... and then look at what happens to the
second
page.

[Peter T. Daniels]

If the _only_ constraint you need on the second page is a different
header, then you should use Different First Page (in Page Setup),
which gives you different headers on the first vs. all subsequent
pages. It seems like this is what you want, since you want p. 1 to be
able to overflow onto p. 2?

On Nov 19, 3:46*pm, Chris Rile
wrote:
..and having a table pass over it..

Hi,

I have a document that I'm trying to make easier to use. This is a 'form'
(using the term loosly) where people will open up the template, edit fields
in the table on the form, and save it with a new name.

There are headers and footers on the form, and the second page's header has
to be a little different. So at the bottom of the table I added a section
break to do this.

This becomes a little difficult when people start to fill in the bottom half
of the table, as the height of each row will change as the cell expands due
to word wrap and the number of characters needed varies. This pushes the
remaining cells that were below to the next page along with the section
break. Careful deletion of rows to account for larger previous rows can be
used to work around this, but unfortunately not everyone is so careful.

Can I somehow anchor the section break to the bottom of the first page so
that I can have page 2 always start as section 2? It would be nice if, as
rows expand they just jumped over this section break... but I'm probably just
dreaming there... but I have to ask, is there a way?

Here's the document that I'm trying to describe,

http://www.auto-ic.com/saguaro/NH3UnloadingJSA.doc

to get an Idea of what I'm asking, try typing enough to expand the row
that's second from the bottom... and then look at what happens to the second
page.

[Chris Rile]

That's exactly what I needed! Thank you!

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:

If the _only_ constraint you need on the second page is a different
header, then you should use Different First Page (in Page Setup),
which gives you different headers on the first vs. all subsequent
pages. It seems like this is what you want, since you want p. 1 to be
able to overflow onto p. 2?

On Nov 19, 3:46 pm, Chris Rile
wrote:
..and having a table pass over it..

Hi,

I have a document that I'm trying to make easier to use. This is a 'form'
(using the term loosly) where people will open up the template, edit fields
in the table on the form, and save it with a new name.

There are headers and footers on the form, and the second page's header has
to be a little different. So at the bottom of the table I added a section
break to do this.

This becomes a little difficult when people start to fill in the bottom half
of the table, as the height of each row will change as the cell expands due
to word wrap and the number of characters needed varies. This pushes the
remaining cells that were below to the next page along with the section
break. Careful deletion of rows to account for larger previous rows can be
used to work around this, but unfortunately not everyone is so careful.

Can I somehow anchor the section break to the bottom of the first page so
that I can have page 2 always start as section 2? It would be nice if, as
rows expand they just jumped over this section break... but I'm probably just
dreaming there... but I have to ask, is there a way?

Here's the document that I'm trying to describe,

http://www.auto-ic.com/saguaro/NH3UnloadingJSA.doc

to get an Idea of what I'm asking, try typing enough to expand the row
that's second from the bottom... and then look at what happens to the second
page.

.

[Greg Maxey]

On Nov 19, 3:46*pm, Chris Rile
wrote:
..and having a table pass over it..

Hi,

I have a document that I'm trying to make easier to use. This is a 'form'
(using the term loosly) where people will open up the template, edit fields
in the table on the form, and save it with a new name.

There are headers and footers on the form, and the second page's header has
to be a little different. So at the bottom of the table I added a section
break to do this.

This becomes a little difficult when people start to fill in the bottom half
of the table, as the height of each row will change as the cell expands due
to word wrap and the number of characters needed varies. This pushes the
remaining cells that were below to the next page along with the section
break. Careful deletion of rows to account for larger previous rows can be
used to work around this, but unfortunately not everyone is so careful.

Can I somehow anchor the section break to the bottom of the first page so
that I can have page 2 always start as section 2? It would be nice if, as
rows expand they just jumped over this section break... but I'm probably just
dreaming there... but I have to ask, is there a way?

Here's the document that I'm trying to describe,

http://www.auto-ic.com/saguaro/NH3UnloadingJSA.doc

to get an Idea of what I'm asking, try typing enough to expand the row
that's second from the bottom... and then look at what happens to the second
page.

Another method is to use a conditional field in the header:

{ If { Page } = 1 "Page 1 header text""Page 2 header text" }

The field brackes are inserted using CTRL+F9. Then toggle the result
using ALT+F9.

Replace the text shown as appropriate.

Your description of your process sounds like you are using an existing
document as a template and not a true template. It can be a bad if
not embarrassing practice to create new documents based on existing
documents and then saved with a new name. It is recommended to create
new documents from a dedicated template.

See: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customizat...platePart1.htm

[Chris Rile]

Ask one question, and get an answer to a question that I didn't even know I
had! Awesome! Good info, I'm reading up

"Greg Maxey" wrote:

On Nov 19, 3:46 pm, Chris Rile
wrote:
..and having a table pass over it..

Hi,

I have a document that I'm trying to make easier to use. This is a 'form'
(using the term loosly) where people will open up the template, edit fields
in the table on the form, and save it with a new name.

There are headers and footers on the form, and the second page's header has
to be a little different. So at the bottom of the table I added a section
break to do this.

This becomes a little difficult when people start to fill in the bottom half
of the table, as the height of each row will change as the cell expands due
to word wrap and the number of characters needed varies. This pushes the
remaining cells that were below to the next page along with the section
break. Careful deletion of rows to account for larger previous rows can be
used to work around this, but unfortunately not everyone is so careful.

Can I somehow anchor the section break to the bottom of the first page so
that I can have page 2 always start as section 2? It would be nice if, as
rows expand they just jumped over this section break... but I'm probably just
dreaming there... but I have to ask, is there a way?

Here's the document that I'm trying to describe,

http://www.auto-ic.com/saguaro/NH3UnloadingJSA.doc

to get an Idea of what I'm asking, try typing enough to expand the row
that's second from the bottom... and then look at what happens to the second
page.

Another method is to use a conditional field in the header:

{ If { Page } = 1 "Page 1 header text""Page 2 header text" }

The field brackes are inserted using CTRL+F9. Then toggle the result
using ALT+F9.

Replace the text shown as appropriate.

Your description of your process sounds like you are using an existing
document as a template and not a true template. It can be a bad if
not embarrassing practice to create new documents based on existing
documents and then saved with a new name. It is recommended to create
new documents from a dedicated template.

See: http://word.mvps.org/faqs/customizat...platePart1.htm

.