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Default Symbol "font" doesn't act like other fonts

I submitted a question about this yesterday, but it doesn't show up anywhere
in the forum that I can find, so I'm resubmitting.

When I use Insert Symbol, and select specifically the Symbol font, to insert
a special character (I'm using Word 2007), the character is placed into the
text in my document, but it is still shown as "Times New Roman" or whatever
other font I was editingin around the insertion point.

Why does this happen?

This is important because I'm trying to find a way to scrub out all such
inserted Symbol-font characters in existing documents, because the Symbol
font is not Unicode compliant.

Is there a way to (esp. via a macro or some other automatic process) to
identify these characters?

To contrast, when I simply select an existing character in a different font,
and change it to Symbol font, is is faithfully shown (in the Font field up
top on the Home ribbon's Font section) as Symbol font. With these
characters, I can go through the Search dialog, specifying to find characters
of Symbol font, and those characters are found. Likewise, using a macro with
the following specification:

With Selection.Find.Font
.Name = "Symbol"
End With

.... the macro correctly finds those characters. But for any character
allegedly in Symbol font that was inserted from the Insert Symbol Symbol
font dialog - it just doesn't work.

Why are those characters treated so differently from Symbol font in the
other case?
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Default Symbol "font" doesn't act like other fonts

I suspect it was to keep it from being treated like manual formatting (which
it otherwise would be) that is all too easy for users and Word (for example,
when applying a style to a paragraph that has more than some percentage of
manual formatting) to clear away.

It turns out the W2000 supplemental macros, mentioned in the thread with
your previous question, are still available. Perhaps the Find Symbol macro
will help you. (I have not tried it.).

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=EN


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Default Symbol "font" doesn't act like other fonts

Your question yesterday received several answers.

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Fairhope, Alabama USA
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"da9ve" wrote in message
...
I submitted a question about this yesterday, but it doesn't show up
anywhere
in the forum that I can find, so I'm resubmitting.

When I use Insert Symbol, and select specifically the Symbol font, to
insert
a special character (I'm using Word 2007), the character is placed into
the
text in my document, but it is still shown as "Times New Roman" or
whatever
other font I was editingin around the insertion point.

Why does this happen?

This is important because I'm trying to find a way to scrub out all such
inserted Symbol-font characters in existing documents, because the Symbol
font is not Unicode compliant.

Is there a way to (esp. via a macro or some other automatic process) to
identify these characters?

To contrast, when I simply select an existing character in a different
font,
and change it to Symbol font, is is faithfully shown (in the Font field up
top on the Home ribbon's Font section) as Symbol font. With these
characters, I can go through the Search dialog, specifying to find
characters
of Symbol font, and those characters are found. Likewise, using a macro
with
the following specification:

With Selection.Find.Font
.Name = "Symbol"
End With

... the macro correctly finds those characters. But for any character
allegedly in Symbol font that was inserted from the Insert Symbol Symbol
font dialog - it just doesn't work.

Why are those characters treated so differently from Symbol font in the
other case?


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Default Symbol "font" doesn't act like other fonts

I suspect it was to keep it from being treated like manual formatting (which
it otherwise would be) that is all too easy for users and Word (for example,
when applying a style to a paragraph that has more than some percentage of
manual formatting) to clear away.

It turns out the W2000 supplemental macros, mentioned in the thread with
your previous question, are still available. Perhaps the Find Symbol macro
will help you. (I have not tried it.).

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=EN


Pam


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Why are those characters treated so differently from Symbol font in the
other case?


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Your question yesterday received several answers.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"da9ve" wrote in message
...
I submitted a question about this yesterday, but it doesn't show up
anywhere
in the forum that I can find, so I'm resubmitting.

When I use Insert Symbol, and select specifically the Symbol font, to
insert
a special character (I'm using Word 2007), the character is placed into
the
text in my document, but it is still shown as "Times New Roman" or
whatever
other font I was editingin around the insertion point.

Why does this happen?

This is important because I'm trying to find a way to scrub out all such
inserted Symbol-font characters in existing documents, because the Symbol
font is not Unicode compliant.

Is there a way to (esp. via a macro or some other automatic process) to
identify these characters?

To contrast, when I simply select an existing character in a different
font,
and change it to Symbol font, is is faithfully shown (in the Font field up
top on the Home ribbon's Font section) as Symbol font. With these
characters, I can go through the Search dialog, specifying to find
characters
of Symbol font, and those characters are found. Likewise, using a macro
with
the following specification:

With Selection.Find.Font
.Name = "Symbol"
End With

... the macro correctly finds those characters. But for any character
allegedly in Symbol font that was inserted from the Insert Symbol Symbol
font dialog - it just doesn't work.

Why are those characters treated so differently from Symbol font in the
other case?




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