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I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I
see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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I would imagine that about 4 years before Microsoft stops support Word2007
they will stop supporting Word2003. That might be regretable ;-) If you are an expert user then you will soon see that advantage gained with Content Controls will offset the loss of AutoText autocomplete tip. AutoText is still there but sadly the autocomplete tip feature is missing. If you are into XML (which I fall in and nearly drown from time to time) you will find it in enhanced significantly. Me and a lot of other users have had similiar feelings as you are having now. Fellow MVP Graham Mayor has some good tips on his website if you want to try to make Word2007 look something like Word2003. http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm I decided to just knuckle down and accept the changes. I sitll have Word2003 on my PC, but find myself using it less and less as I grow accustomed to the new interface in Word2007. Good Luck. -- Greg Maxey/Word MVP See: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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On 18 Jan, 21:37, "Greg Maxey" wrote:
I would imagine that about 4 years before Microsoft stops support Word2007 they will stop supporting Word2003. That might be regretable ;-) If you are an expert user then you will soon see that advantage gained with Content Controls will offset the loss of AutoText autocomplete tip. AutoText is still there but sadly the autocomplete tip feature is missing. If you are into XML (which I fall in and nearly drown from time to time) you will find it in enhanced significantly. Me and a lot of other users have had similiar feelings as you are having now. Fellow MVP Graham Mayor has some good tips on his website if you want to try to make Word2007 look something like Word2003.http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm I decided to just knuckle down and accept the changes. I sitll have Word2003 on my PC, but find myself using it less and less as I grow accustomed to the new interface in Word2007. Good Luck. -- Thanks for the advice Greg. How do you manage to run both 2003 and 2007, i thought 2007 automatically overwrote 2003. I don't want to project my being a super geek on WORD but i do have most of the menus at my finger tips as alt-keystrokes and know where to find everything from contents lists to styles to Tables, etc. I had expected to find 101 new features but I really can't see anything useful new and I've used it all for a week. It all seems aimed at inter-working within the big organisations. The flexibility re change tracking is much less than it used to be. Phil Greg Maxey/Word MVP See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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Phil,
Both versions of Word can co-exists quite happily on a single PC. See the webpage link by Graham Mayor to fix the single issue of file type registration. -- Greg Maxey/Word MVP See: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: On 18 Jan, 21:37, "Greg Maxey" wrote: I would imagine that about 4 years before Microsoft stops support Word2007 they will stop supporting Word2003. That might be regretable ;-) If you are an expert user then you will soon see that advantage gained with Content Controls will offset the loss of AutoText autocomplete tip. AutoText is still there but sadly the autocomplete tip feature is missing. If you are into XML (which I fall in and nearly drown from time to time) you will find it in enhanced significantly. Me and a lot of other users have had similiar feelings as you are having now. Fellow MVP Graham Mayor has some good tips on his website if you want to try to make Word2007 look something like Word2003.http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm I decided to just knuckle down and accept the changes. I sitll have Word2003 on my PC, but find myself using it less and less as I grow accustomed to the new interface in Word2007. Good Luck. -- Thanks for the advice Greg. How do you manage to run both 2003 and 2007, i thought 2007 automatically overwrote 2003. I don't want to project my being a super geek on WORD but i do have most of the menus at my finger tips as alt-keystrokes and know where to find everything from contents lists to styles to Tables, etc. I had expected to find 101 new features but I really can't see anything useful new and I've used it all for a week. It all seems aimed at inter-working within the big organisations. The flexibility re change tracking is much less than it used to be. Phil Greg Maxey/Word MVP See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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Hi Greg
That's a point, I hadnt thought of that. Could you spell out what that link was? Phil On 19 Jan, 00:00, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Phil, Both versions of Word can co-exists quite happily on a single PC. See the webpage link by Graham Mayor to fix the single issue of file type registration. -- Greg Maxey/Word MVP See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: On 18 Jan, 21:37, "Greg Maxey" wrote: I would imagine that about 4 years before Microsoft stops support Word2007 they will stop supporting Word2003. That might be regretable ;-) If you are an expert user then you will soon see that advantage gained with Content Controls will offset the loss of AutoText autocomplete tip. AutoText is still there but sadly the autocomplete tip feature is missing. If you are into XML (which I fall in and nearly drown from time to time) you will find it in enhanced significantly. Me and a lot of other users have had similiar feelings as you are having now. Fellow MVP Graham Mayor has some good tips on his website if you want to try to make Word2007 look something like Word2003.http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm I decided to just knuckle down and accept the changes. I sitll have Word2003 on my PC, but find myself using it less and less as I grow accustomed to the new interface in Word2007. Good Luck. -- Thanks for the advice Greg. How do you manage to run both 2003 and 2007, i thought 2007 automatically overwrote 2003. I don't want to project my being a super geek on WORD but i do have most of the menus at my finger tips as alt-keystrokes and know where to find everything from contents lists to styles to Tables, etc. I had expected to find 101 new features but I really can't see anything useful new and I've used it all for a week. It all seems aimed at inter-working within the big organisations. The flexibility re change tracking is much less than it used to be. Phil Greg Maxey/Word MVP See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm
-- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Phil wrote: Hi Greg That's a point, I hadnt thought of that. Could you spell out what that link was? Phil On 19 Jan, 00:00, "Greg Maxey" wrote: Phil, Both versions of Word can co-exists quite happily on a single PC. See the webpage link by Graham Mayor to fix the single issue of file type registration. -- Greg Maxey/Word MVP See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: On 18 Jan, 21:37, "Greg Maxey" wrote: I would imagine that about 4 years before Microsoft stops support Word2007 they will stop supporting Word2003. That might be regretable ;-) If you are an expert user then you will soon see that advantage gained with Content Controls will offset the loss of AutoText autocomplete tip. AutoText is still there but sadly the autocomplete tip feature is missing. If you are into XML (which I fall in and nearly drown from time to time) you will find it in enhanced significantly. Me and a lot of other users have had similiar feelings as you are having now. Fellow MVP Graham Mayor has some good tips on his website if you want to try to make Word2007 look something like Word2003.http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm I decided to just knuckle down and accept the changes. I sitll have Word2003 on my PC, but find myself using it less and less as I grow accustomed to the new interface in Word2007. Good Luck. -- Thanks for the advice Greg. How do you manage to run both 2003 and 2007, i thought 2007 automatically overwrote 2003. I don't want to project my being a super geek on WORD but i do have most of the menus at my finger tips as alt-keystrokes and know where to find everything from contents lists to styles to Tables, etc. I had expected to find 101 new features but I really can't see anything useful new and I've used it all for a week. It all seems aimed at inter-working within the big organisations. The flexibility re change tracking is much less than it used to be. Phil Greg Maxey/Word MVP See:http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following:
LIVE PREVIEWS AND GALLERIES *The potential results of many formatting changes can now be viewed in the active document in a Live Preview without actually changing the document by hovering the pointer over a thumbnail in many of Word 2007s galleries *Numerous galleries that include predefined sets of formatting and layout that can be applied with a single click are available DOCUMENT €“ PACKAGE OF ZIPPED XML FILES *The file format is no longer binary but rather a zipped package consisting of multiple XML files in text format and folders for each document *Helps make your documents safer by separating files that contain scripts or macros, making it easier to identify and block unwanted code or macros *Helps make your document file sizes far smaller by using ZIP and other compression technologies to reduce file size by as much as 75 percent compared to the binary formats that are used in earlier versions of Word *Helps make your documents less susceptible to damage and more readily recoverable *The XML format supports other new features, such as document themes, Quick Style sets, SmartArt, building blocks and content controls *Allows you to incorporate data from various sources more easily SAVE AS PDF FORMAT You can save files in PDF format (or XPS format) by installing a free add-in program provided by Microsoft BUILDING BLOCKS Building Blocks are available that provide you with built-in professionally-designed, pre-formatted cover pages, headers, footers, text boxes, boilerplate text, etc. (building blocks) with a single click; custom building blocks can also be created DOCUMENT THEMES *Document themes allow you to Live Preview and then change the design (fonts, colors, graphics effects) throughout the entire document with several clicks in conjunction with the active Quick Style set Applying a different document theme applies the same colors, fonts and effects to your documents for a consistent, aesthetically-appealing look *A single document theme generates a variety of Quick Styles for each type of graphics (picture, shape, SmartArt, chart, text box or WordArt) and for CONTAINERS for text other than sections and the document *The actual number of Quick Styles for each type of graphics is 30 or more and for text other than lists, sections and the document is 25 in total in each Quick Style set *The 30+ Quick Styles for each type of graphics update their colors, fonts (if applicable) and effects whenever a different document theme is applied, effectively creating a brand new set of 30+ styles *The 25 text Quick Styles in each set update their colors and fonts whenever a different document theme is applied * When changing color settings such as the font color, border color (text, table, picture), outline color (shape, SmartArt, text box), fill color (shape, SmartArt, text box) and shading color (text, table, picture), making the selection from the €œtheme colors€ in the color picker harmonize automatically with the active document theme PROPAGATING FONT PAIRS *A new font pair concept (+Body and +Headings) is incorporated in document themes that changes the font of nearly all body text and all headings with just 2 clicks *The default font pair for the default document theme, €œOffice,€ is Calibri (+Body) and Cambria (+Headings) (DEFAULT) AND NORMAL STYLE *It is now possible to change default font formatting and paragraph formatting settings (Set Defaults tab of the Manage Styles dialog box) that ripple from the Normal style into nearly all other paragraph styles and linked styles *Moreover, default paragraph formatting settings can also be set from both tabs of the Paragraph dialog box (new in Word 2007) *The Normal style €“ the paragraph style that word automatically applies to all text you enter and the style upon which nearly all paragraph styles and linked styles are based €“ helps make text far more readable; with the default €œOffice€ document theme and the default €œWord 2007€ Quick Style set NEW TYPEFACES *Typographic capabilities that include new typefaces provide you with a clean, fresh look to your documents and make them far easier to read, especially electronically *Word 2007 also includes improved ClearType support for better on-screen rendering GRAPHICS QUICK STYLES *Graphics Quick Styles can be applied to pictures, clip art, shapes, SmartArt, charts, text boxes and WordArt *They automatically harmonize with document themes to create aesthetically-appealing results; see also Table styles and Table Quick Styles QUICK STYLE SETS FOR TEXT Quick Style sets allow you to Live Preview and then change all the heading styles, body styles, etc. with just a few clicks; there are 11 sets of 25 named styles each that are attractively designed to harmonize with other members of the set and with the active document theme SMARTART SmartArt presents a visual representation of information that you can quickly and easily create, choosing from among several different TYPES such as List, Process, Cycle, Hierarchy and Relationship, each of which has numerous different LAYOUTS and coordinates automatically with the active document theme ENHANCED CHARTING Powerful charting capabilities allow you to prepare professional-looking charts using the enhanced charting features in Excel 2007, which are also available in PowerPoint; they coordinate automatically with the active document theme CONTENT CONTROLS *Content controls allow you to add text and graphics to a document or a template in predesigned pieces such as rich text, plain text, combo lists, drop-down lists, pictures, date pickers and building blocks *This feature is especially useful for creating templates and can be used to update documents automatically with information from other sources CONTEXTUAL SPELL CHECKING Contextual spell checking verifies that you are using the word in the right context DOCUMENT INSPECTOR (REMOVE METADATA) The Document Inspector lets you easily remove before distributing a document private metadata and hidden data that you dont want others to access TRI-PANE REVIEW PANEL *The tri-pane review panel allows you to find out the changes made to a document easily *You see both versions of a document with deleted, inserted, and moved text clearly marked "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what
they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. On Jan 18, 5:10*pm, Aeneas wrote: You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following: [see previous message for the list] "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! *I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. *And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? |
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That's one I just discovered today, and it does sound very desirable.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "grammatim" wrote in message ... Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. On Jan 18, 5:10 pm, Aeneas wrote: You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following: [see previous message for the list] "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? |
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My reaction was exactly the same as that of grammatim - if that's all
that's on offer i wish i'd stayed with 2003. I'm in the process of reloading 2003 but of course it will take ages as I'll have to reinstall all the service packs and updates. What a pity microsoft couldnt have pointed out that one can keep both versions. By the way, it might be useful to know of people posting here whether they work for microsoft. Barnhill makes that clear, but Aeneas? To be frank I feel badly treated by microsoft over this. I've been with OFFICE - WORD, EXCEL, ACCESS, OUTLOOK for over 10 years and have naturally therefore got used to a given user interface. The right thing to have done would have been to offer a full compatibility mode and then people could migrate as and when they feel like they want to. Nobody minds minor UI changes but this is total. I think I'll keep outlook2007 and revert to 2003 for the rest. And they still didn't fix what, for me, was the biggest problem - the size of the single monolithic PST file. If, like me, you use an incremental archive system, its just terrible, finding that this massive file has to be archived every single time, when it should be organised into much smaller files - say one per folder. Phil On 18 Jan, 22:37, grammatim wrote: Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. On Jan 18, 5:10 pm, Aeneas wrote: You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following: [see previous message for the list] "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? |
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Phil,
I don't work for Microsoft either. In fact right now I don't work at all and serioulsy considering a Work for Food Program ;-) -- Greg Maxey/Word MVP See: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: My reaction was exactly the same as that of grammatim - if that's all that's on offer i wish i'd stayed with 2003. I'm in the process of reloading 2003 but of course it will take ages as I'll have to reinstall all the service packs and updates. What a pity microsoft couldnt have pointed out that one can keep both versions. By the way, it might be useful to know of people posting here whether they work for microsoft. Barnhill makes that clear, but Aeneas? To be frank I feel badly treated by microsoft over this. I've been with OFFICE - WORD, EXCEL, ACCESS, OUTLOOK for over 10 years and have naturally therefore got used to a given user interface. The right thing to have done would have been to offer a full compatibility mode and then people could migrate as and when they feel like they want to. Nobody minds minor UI changes but this is total. I think I'll keep outlook2007 and revert to 2003 for the rest. And they still didn't fix what, for me, was the biggest problem - the size of the single monolithic PST file. If, like me, you use an incremental archive system, its just terrible, finding that this massive file has to be archived every single time, when it should be organised into much smaller files - say one per folder. Phil On 18 Jan, 22:37, grammatim wrote: Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. On Jan 18, 5:10 pm, Aeneas wrote: You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following: [see previous message for the list] "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? |
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![]() Phil: To satisfy your curiosity (or perhaps cynicism) I do not work for Microsoft or any related company. Nor do I work for a "large" company. I have been semi-retired for years and consult for several companies (fewer than 10 employees each) that place a premium on professional-looking and aesthetically-appealing PowerPoint presentations, Excel workbooks and, in particular, Word documents. Many of the features I noted above contribute significantly to producing these products. We have received numerous comments from our clients' customers on the impressive quality of these products since switching to Office 2007. Comments have included compliments on the superior readability, the eye-popping graphics (SmartArt) and the presentation-quality charts. In all cases, the documents have been created and saved in 2007 formats and a second version has been saved in 2003 or earlier formats. Although I think Office 2007 is the most significant advancement in software since Lotus 1-2-3 was introduced, it may not be the right product depending on a person's needs or his/her ability to embrace change. Some, who take the time to read about what Office 2007 offers, will decide it doesn't suit their needs and decide not to buy it; many others will be impressed and buy it. Typically, those in the latter group will take the time to learn the new user interface and how to take advantage of other new features (both of which can be very frustrating) and, in most cases, be rewarded for their efforts. Others will have Office 2007 forced upon them by a decision of company management. Some will refuse to spend the time to learn the new interface and take advantage of the new features; instead they will incessantly complain, often blaming the "evil empire (Microsoft)" or their stupid bosses. Most who choose to endure the frustration of learning the new software will be richly rewarded for their efforts. Good luck with your future purchasing decisions. "Greg Maxey" wrote Phil, I don't work for Microsoft either. In fact right now I don't work at all and serioulsy considering a Work for Food Program ;-) -- Greg Maxey/Word MVP See: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm For some helpful tips using Word. Phil wrote: My reaction was exactly the same as that of grammatim - if that's all that's on offer i wish i'd stayed with 2003. I'm in the process of reloading 2003 but of course it will take ages as I'll have to reinstall all the service packs and updates. What a pity microsoft couldnt have pointed out that one can keep both versions. By the way, it might be useful to know of people posting here whether they work for microsoft. Barnhill makes that clear, but Aeneas? To be frank I feel badly treated by microsoft over this. I've been with OFFICE - WORD, EXCEL, ACCESS, OUTLOOK for over 10 years and have naturally therefore got used to a given user interface. The right thing to have done would have been to offer a full compatibility mode and then people could migrate as and when they feel like they want to. Nobody minds minor UI changes but this is total. I think I'll keep outlook2007 and revert to 2003 for the rest. And they still didn't fix what, for me, was the biggest problem - the size of the single monolithic PST file. If, like me, you use an incremental archive system, its just terrible, finding that this massive file has to be archived every single time, when it should be organised into much smaller files - say one per folder. Phil On 18 Jan, 22:37, grammatim wrote: Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. On Jan 18, 5:10 pm, Aeneas wrote: You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following: [see previous message for the list] "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? |
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Just a correction. I do not work for Microsoft. Only very rarely will anyone
who *does* work for Microsoft post here (it's intended to be a peer-support forum); when they do, they usually include "[MSFT]" in their screen names. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Phil" wrote in message ... My reaction was exactly the same as that of grammatim - if that's all that's on offer i wish i'd stayed with 2003. I'm in the process of reloading 2003 but of course it will take ages as I'll have to reinstall all the service packs and updates. What a pity microsoft couldnt have pointed out that one can keep both versions. By the way, it might be useful to know of people posting here whether they work for microsoft. Barnhill makes that clear, but Aeneas? To be frank I feel badly treated by microsoft over this. I've been with OFFICE - WORD, EXCEL, ACCESS, OUTLOOK for over 10 years and have naturally therefore got used to a given user interface. The right thing to have done would have been to offer a full compatibility mode and then people could migrate as and when they feel like they want to. Nobody minds minor UI changes but this is total. I think I'll keep outlook2007 and revert to 2003 for the rest. And they still didn't fix what, for me, was the biggest problem - the size of the single monolithic PST file. If, like me, you use an incremental archive system, its just terrible, finding that this massive file has to be archived every single time, when it should be organised into much smaller files - say one per folder. Phil On 18 Jan, 22:37, grammatim wrote: Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. On Jan 18, 5:10 pm, Aeneas wrote: You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following: [see previous message for the list] "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? |
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Hi Grammatim,
As far as documents looking alike (consistency of presentation?) with most things, some folks see the Office 2007 changes and expansion of AutoText into Buiding Block galleries, as a means for making reusable content more easily identifiable and accessible, others see it as a change they didn't ask for, I suppose ![]() can be depopulated of their examples. Each version of Word has included samples that can be used and modified (fortunately Microsoft has left the 'Blue Skies and 'Adventure' themed ones from earlier versions behind for this decade g). The ability to setup custom packets of styles, headers and footers with logos and specific formatting can be helpful in company environments where standardization to a corporate 'look' is wanted, as well as 'boilerplate'/approved wording of certain letters and forms to allow, if nothing else, replicate using preprinted letterhead/form letters in the printer from inside of Word g. For folks in schools, or in the scientific community, who need to meet specific formatting and layout needs, the galleries can also come in handy, letting folks focus more on content than on how to match a layout. The access to templates in Office Button=Open is one I've seen as appreciated by the casual user of Word from home for letter/email/calendar flyer, etc creation. For those folks, the allure of an improved 'compare documents' feature could be on their 'why bother changing that' list g. It's not an easy task to 'please millions' of folks with differing opinions of what they'd want to see change'. ![]() FWIW, Bill Gates is in his retiring this summer. Perhaps one day folks will be saying 'Bill Gates wouldn't have done that when he was in charge' as the next versions of Office come out, or 'I wonder what Bill would think of this' g. ================= "grammatim" wrote in message ... Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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Bob Buckland said:
"As far as documents looking alike (consistency of presentation?) with most things, some folks see the Office 2007 changes and expansion of AutoText into Buiding Block galleries, as a means for making reusable content more easily identifiable and accessible, others see it as a change they didn't ask for" Can I get straight here - I think what I called Autotext in 2003 is missing completely, that's my complaint. In 2003, I could set 'esta' as autotext for 'establishment', so after i typed 'esta' I would get a bubble asking if i wanted 'establishment' substituted, press enter and the substitution occurred. That facility is absent from 2007. You may say the enter has been replaced by F3, but you have to know and remember that you've saved an autotext. The whole beauty of the 2003 feature was that you didnt have to remember because of the bubble that appeared. As for the facility to insert boiler-plate text, that's useless for simple word expansions such as this. All this boiler plate text seems suited to corporate life, in fact the whole 2007 release seems aimed at corporate workers, and not at the individual with his own PC. No wonder Msoft made this special offer (in UK anyway) that anyone with an academic email address could buy the whole lot for about 1/4 of the normal price. But then they find there's nothing in it for them, and before people point to the new reference/citation facility, I've had a look and it seems very clunky without Endnote, and that costs as much again, and works just as well with 2003. The only good news is that I've managed to get WORD,EXCEL,ACCESS loaded as both 2007 and 2003. Aside for that I blow 2007 a big raspberry. Phil On 19 Jan, 15:14, "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote: Hi Grammatim, As far as documents looking alike (consistency of presentation?) with most things, some folks see the Office 2007 changes and expansion of AutoText into Buiding Block galleries, as a means for making reusable content more easily identifiable and accessible, others see it as a change they didn't ask for, I suppose ![]() can be depopulated of their examples. Each version of Word has included samples that can be used and modified (fortunately Microsoft has left the 'Blue Skies and 'Adventure' themed ones from earlier versions behind for this decade g). The ability to setup custom packets of styles, headers and footers with logos and specific formatting can be helpful in company environments where standardization to a corporate 'look' is wanted, as well as 'boilerplate'/approved wording of certain letters and forms to allow, if nothing else, replicate using preprinted letterhead/form letters in the printer from inside of Word g. For folks in schools, or in the scientific community, who need to meet specific formatting and layout needs, the galleries can also come in handy, letting folks focus more on content than on how to match a layout. The access to templates in Office Button=Open is one I've seen as appreciated by the casual user of Word from home for letter/email/calendar flyer, etc creation. For those folks, the allure of an improved 'compare documents' feature could be on their 'why bother changing that' list g. It's not an easy task to 'please millions' of folks with differing opinions of what they'd want to see change'. ![]() FWIW, Bill Gates is in his retiring this summer. Perhaps one day folks will be saying 'Bill Gates wouldn't have done that when he was in charge' as the next versions of Office come out, or 'I wonder what Bill would think of this' g. ================= "grammatim" wrote in ... Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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The first weekend in January, I went to the annual meeting of the
Linguistic Society of America (in Chicago!! --who goes to Chicago in January?), where PowerPoint presentations are de rigueur (and most of the speakers _also_ hand out printed handouts duplicating all the slides -- I thought the point of a slideshow was to save paper), and at least half of the ones I saw used exactly the same out-of-the-box graphics setup that added nothing to the content of their talks and took up screen space that could have been used for making their diagrams a little bigger. _That's_ what I object to most. When I learned to use PowerPoint and did my first such presentation in November, there was nothing at all on the screen that I didn't specifically put there -- and I couldn't even format all of that as I wanted, since PP insists on bullets, or if not bullets, then hanging indents. (Incidentally, the PP newsgroup was just as helpful as this one, though PP problems are a lot more limited than Word problems, so I don't look there any more.) On Jan 19, 12:09*pm, Phil wrote: Bob Buckland said: "As far as documents looking alike (consistency of presentation?) with most things, some folks see the Office 2007 changes and expansion of AutoText into Buiding Block galleries, as a means for making reusable content more easily identifiable and accessible, others see it as a change they didn't ask for" Can I get straight here - I think what I called Autotext in 2003 is missing completely, that's my complaint. *In 2003, I could set 'esta' as autotext for 'establishment', so after i typed 'esta' I would get a bubble asking if i wanted 'establishment' substituted, press enter and the substitution occurred. *That facility is absent from 2007. You may say the enter has been replaced by F3, but you have to know and remember that you've saved an autotext. The whole beauty of the 2003 feature was that you didnt have to remember because of the bubble that appeared. As for the facility to insert boiler-plate text, that's useless for simple word expansions such as this. *All this boiler plate text seems suited to corporate life, in fact the whole 2007 release seems aimed at corporate workers, and not at the individual with his own PC. *No wonder Msoft made this special offer (in UK anyway) that anyone with an academic email address could buy the whole lot for about 1/4 of the normal price. But then they find there's nothing in it for them, and before people point to the new reference/citation facility, I've had a look and it seems very clunky without Endnote, and that costs as much again, and works just as well with 2003. The only good news is that I've managed to get WORD,EXCEL,ACCESS loaded as both 2007 and 2003. *Aside for that I blow 2007 a big raspberry. Phil On 19 Jan, 15:14, "Bob * Buckland ?:-\)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote: Hi Grammatim, As far as documents looking alike (consistency of presentation?) with most things, some folks see the Office 2007 changes and expansion of AutoText into Buiding Block galleries, as a means for making reusable content more easily identifiable and accessible, others see it as a change they didn't ask for, I suppose ![]() can be depopulated of their examples. Each version of Word has included samples that can be used and modified (fortunately Microsoft has left the 'Blue Skies and 'Adventure' themed ones from earlier versions behind for this decade g). The ability to setup custom packets of styles, headers and footers with logos and specific formatting can be helpful in company environments where standardization to a corporate 'look' is wanted, as well as 'boilerplate'/approved wording of certain letters and forms to allow, if nothing else, replicate using preprinted letterhead/form letters in the printer from inside of Word g. For folks in schools, or in the scientific community, who need to meet specific formatting and layout needs, the galleries can also come in handy, letting folks focus more on content than on how to match a layout. The access to templates in Office Button=Open is one I've seen as appreciated by the casual user of Word from home for letter/email/calendar flyer, etc creation. *For those folks, the allure of an improved 'compare documents' feature could be on their 'why bother changing that' list g. It's not an easy task to 'please millions' of folks with differing opinions of what they'd want to see change'. * ![]() FWIW, Bill Gates is in his retiring this summer. *Perhaps one day folks will be saying 'Bill Gates wouldn't have done that when he was in charge' as the next versions of Office come out, or 'I wonder what Bill would think of this' g. ================= * "grammatim" wrote in ... Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. -- Bob *Buckland *?:-) MS Office System Products MVP * *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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While not disagreeing with your statement in principle, I'll point out that
in the specific instance you cite (esta establishment), and AutoCorrect entry would be more suitable than AutoText, anyway. You might want to consider how you could use AutoCorrect for at least some of your AutoText entries. As for the popup, if you didn't remember that the letters you are typing were an AutoText entry name, why would you be typing them? If you weren't typing them in order to insert the AutoText entry, then the ScreenTip would just be a distraction (I had to remove my business name from the AutoText entry list--where it was put by Word, not me--because it popped up every time I typed "word"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Phil" wrote in message ... Bob Buckland said: "As far as documents looking alike (consistency of presentation?) with most things, some folks see the Office 2007 changes and expansion of AutoText into Buiding Block galleries, as a means for making reusable content more easily identifiable and accessible, others see it as a change they didn't ask for" Can I get straight here - I think what I called Autotext in 2003 is missing completely, that's my complaint. In 2003, I could set 'esta' as autotext for 'establishment', so after i typed 'esta' I would get a bubble asking if i wanted 'establishment' substituted, press enter and the substitution occurred. That facility is absent from 2007. You may say the enter has been replaced by F3, but you have to know and remember that you've saved an autotext. The whole beauty of the 2003 feature was that you didnt have to remember because of the bubble that appeared. As for the facility to insert boiler-plate text, that's useless for simple word expansions such as this. All this boiler plate text seems suited to corporate life, in fact the whole 2007 release seems aimed at corporate workers, and not at the individual with his own PC. No wonder Msoft made this special offer (in UK anyway) that anyone with an academic email address could buy the whole lot for about 1/4 of the normal price. But then they find there's nothing in it for them, and before people point to the new reference/citation facility, I've had a look and it seems very clunky without Endnote, and that costs as much again, and works just as well with 2003. The only good news is that I've managed to get WORD,EXCEL,ACCESS loaded as both 2007 and 2003. Aside for that I blow 2007 a big raspberry. Phil On 19 Jan, 15:14, "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" 75214.226(At Beautiful Downtown)compuserve.com wrote: Hi Grammatim, As far as documents looking alike (consistency of presentation?) with most things, some folks see the Office 2007 changes and expansion of AutoText into Buiding Block galleries, as a means for making reusable content more easily identifiable and accessible, others see it as a change they didn't ask for, I suppose ![]() other Word features they can be avoided and the galleries can be depopulated of their examples. Each version of Word has included samples that can be used and modified (fortunately Microsoft has left the 'Blue Skies and 'Adventure' themed ones from earlier versions behind for this decade g). The ability to setup custom packets of styles, headers and footers with logos and specific formatting can be helpful in company environments where standardization to a corporate 'look' is wanted, as well as 'boilerplate'/approved wording of certain letters and forms to allow, if nothing else, replicate using preprinted letterhead/form letters in the printer from inside of Word g. For folks in schools, or in the scientific community, who need to meet specific formatting and layout needs, the galleries can also come in handy, letting folks focus more on content than on how to match a layout. The access to templates in Office Button=Open is one I've seen as appreciated by the casual user of Word from home for letter/email/calendar flyer, etc creation. For those folks, the allure of an improved 'compare documents' feature could be on their 'why bother changing that' list g. It's not an easy task to 'please millions' of folks with differing opinions of what they'd want to see change'. ![]() FWIW, Bill Gates is in his retiring this summer. Perhaps one day folks will be saying 'Bill Gates wouldn't have done that when he was in charge' as the next versions of Office come out, or 'I wonder what Bill would think of this' g. ================= "grammatim" wrote in ... Nothing listed by Aeneas strikes me as desirable -- especially what they seem to be promoting especially heavily: the imposition of pre- provided designs instead of the creativity of individual designers (or, call it advertising departments). Evidently Mr. Gates wants all documents ever produced henceforth to look alike. The one useful feature of Word2007 that's been mentioned here is the clearer method of comparing versions of documents. -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office System Products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends* |
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That last feature is one I just read about today, and it sounds quite
helpful. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA "Aeneas" wrote in message news ![]() You might regret uninstalling Word 2007 if you value any of the following: LIVE PREVIEWS AND GALLERIES *The potential results of many formatting changes can now be viewed in the active document in a Live Preview without actually changing the document by hovering the pointer over a thumbnail in many of Word 2007's galleries *Numerous galleries that include predefined sets of formatting and layout that can be applied with a single click are available DOCUMENT - PACKAGE OF ZIPPED XML FILES *The file format is no longer binary but rather a zipped package consisting of multiple XML files in text format and folders for each document *Helps make your documents safer by separating files that contain scripts or macros, making it easier to identify and block unwanted code or macros *Helps make your document file sizes far smaller by using ZIP and other compression technologies to reduce file size by as much as 75 percent compared to the binary formats that are used in earlier versions of Word *Helps make your documents less susceptible to damage and more readily recoverable *The XML format supports other new features, such as document themes, Quick Style sets, SmartArt, building blocks and content controls *Allows you to incorporate data from various sources more easily SAVE AS PDF FORMAT You can save files in PDF format (or XPS format) by installing a free add-in program provided by Microsoft BUILDING BLOCKS Building Blocks are available that provide you with built-in professionally-designed, pre-formatted cover pages, headers, footers, text boxes, boilerplate text, etc. (building blocks) with a single click; custom building blocks can also be created DOCUMENT THEMES *Document themes allow you to Live Preview and then change the design (fonts, colors, graphics effects) throughout the entire document with several clicks in conjunction with the active Quick Style set Applying a different document theme applies the same colors, fonts and effects to your documents for a consistent, aesthetically-appealing look *A single document theme generates a variety of Quick Styles for each type of graphics (picture, shape, SmartArt, chart, text box or WordArt) and for CONTAINERS for text other than sections and the document *The actual number of Quick Styles for each type of graphics is 30 or more and for text other than lists, sections and the document is 25 in total in each Quick Style set *The 30+ Quick Styles for each type of graphics update their colors, fonts (if applicable) and effects whenever a different document theme is applied, effectively creating a brand new set of 30+ styles *The 25 text Quick Styles in each set update their colors and fonts whenever a different document theme is applied * When changing color settings such as the font color, border color (text, table, picture), outline color (shape, SmartArt, text box), fill color (shape, SmartArt, text box) and shading color (text, table, picture), making the selection from the "theme colors" in the color picker harmonize automatically with the active document theme PROPAGATING FONT PAIRS *A new font pair concept (+Body and +Headings) is incorporated in document themes that changes the font of nearly all body text and all headings with just 2 clicks *The default font pair for the default document theme, "Office," is Calibri (+Body) and Cambria (+Headings) (DEFAULT) AND NORMAL STYLE *It is now possible to change default font formatting and paragraph formatting settings (Set Defaults tab of the Manage Styles dialog box) that ripple from the Normal style into nearly all other paragraph styles and linked styles *Moreover, default paragraph formatting settings can also be set from both tabs of the Paragraph dialog box (new in Word 2007) *The Normal style - the paragraph style that word automatically applies to all text you enter and the style upon which nearly all paragraph styles and linked styles are based - helps make text far more readable; with the default "Office" document theme and the default "Word 2007" Quick Style set NEW TYPEFACES *Typographic capabilities that include new typefaces provide you with a clean, fresh look to your documents and make them far easier to read, especially electronically *Word 2007 also includes improved ClearType support for better on-screen rendering GRAPHICS QUICK STYLES *Graphics Quick Styles can be applied to pictures, clip art, shapes, SmartArt, charts, text boxes and WordArt *They automatically harmonize with document themes to create aesthetically-appealing results; see also Table styles and Table Quick Styles QUICK STYLE SETS FOR TEXT Quick Style sets allow you to Live Preview and then change all the heading styles, body styles, etc. with just a few clicks; there are 11 sets of 25 named styles each that are attractively designed to harmonize with other members of the set and with the active document theme SMARTART SmartArt presents a visual representation of information that you can quickly and easily create, choosing from among several different TYPES such as List, Process, Cycle, Hierarchy and Relationship, each of which has numerous different LAYOUTS and coordinates automatically with the active document theme ENHANCED CHARTING Powerful charting capabilities allow you to prepare professional-looking charts using the enhanced charting features in Excel 2007, which are also available in PowerPoint; they coordinate automatically with the active document theme CONTENT CONTROLS *Content controls allow you to add text and graphics to a document or a template in predesigned pieces such as rich text, plain text, combo lists, drop-down lists, pictures, date pickers and building blocks *This feature is especially useful for creating templates and can be used to update documents automatically with information from other sources CONTEXTUAL SPELL CHECKING Contextual spell checking verifies that you are using the word in the right context DOCUMENT INSPECTOR (REMOVE METADATA) The Document Inspector lets you easily remove before distributing a document private metadata and hidden data that you don't want others to access TRI-PANE REVIEW PANEL *The tri-pane review panel allows you to find out the changes made to a document easily *You see both versions of a document with deleted, inserted, and moved text clearly marked "Phil" wrote: I've just upgraded to 2007 from 2003 and am wondering why I did it! I see no extra functionality and, as a WORD expert user, am now totally lost and can't find any of the features i regularly used. And some are missing - e.g. AutoText. Does anyone know any good reason why I might regret uninstalling it and reverting to 2003? Phil |
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