[WFM]

I trying use an Avery 8387 postcard template from MS. The full template
apears on the download selection page, however, once the template is
downloaded the top of the template is cutoff. I tried making adjustments on
the Page Setup and I tried several different templates but they all cutoff
the top of the template. How do I fix this very frustrating problem?

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

I'm going to take a guess at this. Move your cursor up to the top of the
"page". If/when the cursor changes, click.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
I trying use an Avery 8387 postcard template from MS. The full template
apears on the download selection page, however, once the template is
downloaded the top of the template is cutoff. I tried making adjustments
on
the Page Setup and I tried several different templates but they all cutoff
the top of the template. How do I fix this very frustrating problem?

[WFM]

Thank you JoAnn:

I think I stummbled upon this very same fix right after I sent my email
question. You are right! Here's what I found: By moving the cursor to the
top of the template a small double-sided arrow would appear with a caption
saying something about "white space[s]". I clicked on the arrows and then
the full template page miraculously appeared. Amazing!

Geez! Do you have any idea how much time I spent on this! I can't for the
life of me figure out why the whole template page doesn't just appear without
having to resort to clicking the double-sided arrow. How on earth was I
supposed to know I had to click a double-sided arrow first? Just doesn't
make sense.

Anyway, thanks for your quick answer. This was the first time using online
help and I am pleased with the quick response. Now if you could just make
Word make sense!

WFM

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

I'm going to take a guess at this. Move your cursor up to the top of the
"page". If/when the cursor changes, click.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
I trying use an Avery 8387 postcard template from MS. The full template
apears on the download selection page, however, once the template is
downloaded the top of the template is cutoff. I tried making adjustments
on
the Page Setup and I tried several different templates but they all cutoff
the top of the template. How do I fix this very frustrating problem?

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

When that first happened to me I was dumb-founded. I hit the archives and
found Suzanne's excellent article on that problem. I couldn't figure out how
the heck that "feature" could ever be used. Well, you know how those things
come back to bite you in the butt? I learned to appreciate that feature when
I was working on a standards manual and wanted to make sure that all of my
pages were aligned properly. I had started with existing files and the
paragraph styles were all screwed up. Getting rid of the white space allowed
me to make sure everything looked alright even if the styles were different.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
news
Thank you JoAnn:

I think I stummbled upon this very same fix right after I sent my email
question. You are right! Here's what I found: By moving the cursor to
the
top of the template a small double-sided arrow would appear with a caption
saying something about "white space[s]". I clicked on the arrows and then
the full template page miraculously appeared. Amazing!

Geez! Do you have any idea how much time I spent on this! I can't for
the
life of me figure out why the whole template page doesn't just appear
without
having to resort to clicking the double-sided arrow. How on earth was I
supposed to know I had to click a double-sided arrow first? Just doesn't
make sense.

Anyway, thanks for your quick answer. This was the first time using
online
help and I am pleased with the quick response. Now if you could just make
Word make sense!

WFM

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

I'm going to take a guess at this. Move your cursor up to the top of the
"page". If/when the cursor changes, click.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
I trying use an Avery 8387 postcard template from MS. The full template
apears on the download selection page, however, once the template is
downloaded the top of the template is cutoff. I tried making
adjustments
on
the Page Setup and I tried several different templates but they all
cutoff
the top of the template. How do I fix this very frustrating problem?

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I didn't at first think I'd have any use for the feature either, especially
since I work mostly in Normal view, which is already continuous. But
whenever I have inserted any element that forces Word into Print Layout view
(or can be viewed only in Print Layout view), such as drawings or columns,
it is helpful to suppress the space between pages so I still get continuous
text, making it a lot easier to proofread and also to select text that
breaks across pages.

The part of this that I really didn't expect, though, is that when you
suppress "white space," you're really suppressing display of anything in the
header or footer. One of my templates (a fax cover sheet) has the stubs
(From, To, etc.) in a text box or frame anchored to the header (the
"letterhead in the side margin" trick), and when I inadvertently suppressed
white space, all of that was missing, too.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
...
When that first happened to me I was dumb-founded. I hit the archives and
found Suzanne's excellent article on that problem. I couldn't figure out
how
the heck that "feature" could ever be used. Well, you know how those
things
come back to bite you in the butt? I learned to appreciate that feature
when
I was working on a standards manual and wanted to make sure that all of my
pages were aligned properly. I had started with existing files and the
paragraph styles were all screwed up. Getting rid of the white space
allowed
me to make sure everything looked alright even if the styles were
different.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
news
Thank you JoAnn:

I think I stummbled upon this very same fix right after I sent my email
question. You are right! Here's what I found: By moving the cursor to
the
top of the template a small double-sided arrow would appear with a
caption
saying something about "white space[s]". I clicked on the arrows and
then
the full template page miraculously appeared. Amazing!

Geez! Do you have any idea how much time I spent on this! I can't for
the
life of me figure out why the whole template page doesn't just appear
without
having to resort to clicking the double-sided arrow. How on earth was I
supposed to know I had to click a double-sided arrow first? Just
doesn't
make sense.

Anyway, thanks for your quick answer. This was the first time using
online
help and I am pleased with the quick response. Now if you could just
make
Word make sense!

WFM

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

I'm going to take a guess at this. Move your cursor up to the top of
the
"page". If/when the cursor changes, click.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
I trying use an Avery 8387 postcard template from MS. The full
template
apears on the download selection page, however, once the template is
downloaded the top of the template is cutoff. I tried making
adjustments
on
the Page Setup and I tried several different templates but they all
cutoff
the top of the template. How do I fix this very frustrating problem?

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Funny how we learn our own reasons for using, or not using, various
features. :-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I didn't at first think I'd have any use for the feature either, especially
since I work mostly in Normal view, which is already continuous. But
whenever I have inserted any element that forces Word into Print Layout
view
(or can be viewed only in Print Layout view), such as drawings or columns,
it is helpful to suppress the space between pages so I still get
continuous
text, making it a lot easier to proofread and also to select text that
breaks across pages.

The part of this that I really didn't expect, though, is that when you
suppress "white space," you're really suppressing display of anything in
the
header or footer. One of my templates (a fax cover sheet) has the stubs
(From, To, etc.) in a text box or frame anchored to the header (the
"letterhead in the side margin" trick), and when I inadvertently
suppressed
white space, all of that was missing, too.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
...
When that first happened to me I was dumb-founded. I hit the archives and
found Suzanne's excellent article on that problem. I couldn't figure out
how
the heck that "feature" could ever be used. Well, you know how those
things
come back to bite you in the butt? I learned to appreciate that feature
when
I was working on a standards manual and wanted to make sure that all of
my
pages were aligned properly. I had started with existing files and the
paragraph styles were all screwed up. Getting rid of the white space
allowed
me to make sure everything looked alright even if the styles were
different.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
news
Thank you JoAnn:

I think I stummbled upon this very same fix right after I sent my email
question. You are right! Here's what I found: By moving the cursor
to
the
top of the template a small double-sided arrow would appear with a
caption
saying something about "white space[s]". I clicked on the arrows and
then
the full template page miraculously appeared. Amazing!

Geez! Do you have any idea how much time I spent on this! I can't for
the
life of me figure out why the whole template page doesn't just appear
without
having to resort to clicking the double-sided arrow. How on earth was
I
supposed to know I had to click a double-sided arrow first? Just
doesn't
make sense.

Anyway, thanks for your quick answer. This was the first time using
online
help and I am pleased with the quick response. Now if you could just
make
Word make sense!

WFM

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

I'm going to take a guess at this. Move your cursor up to the top of
the
"page". If/when the cursor changes, click.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
I trying use an Avery 8387 postcard template from MS. The full
template
apears on the download selection page, however, once the template is
downloaded the top of the template is cutoff. I tried making
adjustments
on
the Page Setup and I tried several different templates but they all
cutoff
the top of the template. How do I fix this very frustrating
problem?

[WFM]

Thanks, JoAnn and Suzanne for the replies.

I still don't understand the "white space" feature. Really though the
bigger problem is that Word is so big, complex and full of esoteric features
that it I find it unweildy when I try to do anything out of the my normal
routine. Trying to figure out something that should be a simple task, such
as using a downloaded template, usually becomes a muti-hour excercise in
frustration!

I'm not complaining about the product per se, because I think Word is a
terrific program. But it really needs a more user-friendly way for us
non-professionals to learn how to use program features. I'm not interested
in taking Word training courses because I have neither the time nor the
inclination. I just want things clearly and completely explained in an
easily-used Help section. I could find nothing in my Help searches that even
remotely refered to the "white spaces" problem. How was I to know? But
then, maybe I just missed it! Or perhaps, I didn't use the proper key word
when I did the search. Very frustrating and time-consuming!

Thanks again, I appreciate your help.

WFM

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

I recently learned about being able to use colons in a decimal aligned tab.
I can't find diddly on it anywhere. It's pretty cool because now I can line
up times in a Publisher document that I am making but I'll be darned if I
can find anywhere that times me that the tab properties can use colons that
way.

If Word is more than you need, try WordPad instead.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
Thanks, JoAnn and Suzanne for the replies.

I still don't understand the "white space" feature. Really though the
bigger problem is that Word is so big, complex and full of esoteric
features
that it I find it unweildy when I try to do anything out of the my normal
routine. Trying to figure out something that should be a simple task,
such
as using a downloaded template, usually becomes a muti-hour excercise in
frustration!

I'm not complaining about the product per se, because I think Word is a
terrific program. But it really needs a more user-friendly way for us
non-professionals to learn how to use program features. I'm not
interested
in taking Word training courses because I have neither the time nor the
inclination. I just want things clearly and completely explained in an
easily-used Help section. I could find nothing in my Help searches that
even
remotely refered to the "white spaces" problem. How was I to know? But
then, maybe I just missed it! Or perhaps, I didn't use the proper key
word
when I did the search. Very frustrating and time-consuming!

Thanks again, I appreciate your help.

WFM

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Generally speaking, a decimal tab aligns text on the first non-numeric
character in a string (other than the thousands separator). I have only
rarely used it to align times, but where it really comes in handy is when
you're trying to align figures in a table where some are in parentheses
(negative numbers) or have asterisks or other note reference characters
after them.

I see that my article at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/SettingTabs.htm explains how to set
tabs but doesn't really explain what the different kinds do. When I revamp
that article, I should probably add that.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
I recently learned about being able to use colons in a decimal aligned
tab.
I can't find diddly on it anywhere. It's pretty cool because now I can
line
up times in a Publisher document that I am making but I'll be darned if I
can find anywhere that times me that the tab properties can use colons
that
way.

If Word is more than you need, try WordPad instead.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
Thanks, JoAnn and Suzanne for the replies.

I still don't understand the "white space" feature. Really though the
bigger problem is that Word is so big, complex and full of esoteric
features
that it I find it unweildy when I try to do anything out of the my
normal
routine. Trying to figure out something that should be a simple task,
such
as using a downloaded template, usually becomes a muti-hour excercise in
frustration!

I'm not complaining about the product per se, because I think Word is a
terrific program. But it really needs a more user-friendly way for us
non-professionals to learn how to use program features. I'm not
interested
in taking Word training courses because I have neither the time nor the
inclination. I just want things clearly and completely explained in an
easily-used Help section. I could find nothing in my Help searches that
even
remotely refered to the "white spaces" problem. How was I to know? But
then, maybe I just missed it! Or perhaps, I didn't use the proper key
word
when I did the search. Very frustrating and time-consuming!

Thanks again, I appreciate your help.

WFM

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

It was another MVP (Windows Shell) who taught me that trick. It really makes
the daily calendar I'm creating look nice. I will keep your information in
mind tho. I don't usually need that feature but all it takes is once - like
this time. Makes the world of difference!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Generally speaking, a decimal tab aligns text on the first non-numeric
character in a string (other than the thousands separator). I have only
rarely used it to align times, but where it really comes in handy is when
you're trying to align figures in a table where some are in parentheses
(negative numbers) or have asterisks or other note reference characters
after them.

I see that my article at
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/SettingTabs.htm explains how to set
tabs but doesn't really explain what the different kinds do. When I revamp
that article, I should probably add that.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote in message
.. .
I recently learned about being able to use colons in a decimal aligned
tab.
I can't find diddly on it anywhere. It's pretty cool because now I can
line
up times in a Publisher document that I am making but I'll be darned if I
can find anywhere that times me that the tab properties can use colons
that
way.

If Word is more than you need, try WordPad instead.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




"WFM" wrote in message
...
Thanks, JoAnn and Suzanne for the replies.

I still don't understand the "white space" feature. Really though the
bigger problem is that Word is so big, complex and full of esoteric
features
that it I find it unweildy when I try to do anything out of the my
normal
routine. Trying to figure out something that should be a simple task,
such
as using a downloaded template, usually becomes a muti-hour excercise
in
frustration!

I'm not complaining about the product per se, because I think Word is a
terrific program. But it really needs a more user-friendly way for us
non-professionals to learn how to use program features. I'm not
interested
in taking Word training courses because I have neither the time nor the
inclination. I just want things clearly and completely explained in an
easily-used Help section. I could find nothing in my Help searches
that
even
remotely refered to the "white spaces" problem. How was I to know?
But
then, maybe I just missed it! Or perhaps, I didn't use the proper key
word
when I did the search. Very frustrating and time-consuming!

Thanks again, I appreciate your help.

WFM