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In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text.
A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? -- Thanks JR |
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JR wrote:
In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 No. If you import a Word 2003 template that contains a custom toolbar, it will display in the Add-Ins tab (which is otherwise not present). There are not, and cannot be, other toolbars in 2007. B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? You don't. The QAT allows icons only. Visit http://www.pschmid.net/index.php to learn how to customize the Ribbon. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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A) No - the Quick Access Toolbar is the customization for Office 2007. You
can create a custom tab via a COM Addin. (See MSDN for more info on that). B) There is no way to display the text instead of the macro icon; the only time text will display on the QAT is for checkbox controls. You can specify an icon and custom tooltip for your macro button in the Customization dialog by selecting your macro in the right-side list and clicking the Modify button, if that will help in distinguishing one command from another. "JR" wrote: In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? -- Thanks JR |
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So the way-cool custom toolbars I've developed over the years with macros
and obscure commands all go away if I upgrade to Word 2007? What about the custom templates that have custom menus and toolbars that I've developed for clients?? Does the whole freakin' world have to have training wheels that I can't remove?? Over the years, they've given me the power to speed up my work and now they're taking it away from me?arggh Mike "Renee" wrote in message news ![]() A) No - the Quick Access Toolbar is the customization for Office 2007. You can create a custom tab via a COM Addin. (See MSDN for more info on that). B) There is no way to display the text instead of the macro icon; the only time text will display on the QAT is for checkbox controls. You can specify an icon and custom tooltip for your macro button in the Customization dialog by selecting your macro in the right-side list and clicking the Modify button, if that will help in distinguishing one command from another. "JR" wrote: In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? -- Thanks JR |
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They will appear on the Add-Ins tab, but nowhere else.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed "Mike Starr" wrote in message : So the way-cool custom toolbars I've developed over the years with macros and obscure commands all go away if I upgrade to Word 2007? What about the custom templates that have custom menus and toolbars that I've developed for clients?? Does the whole freakin' world have to have training wheels that I can't remove?? Over the years, they've given me the power to speed up my work and now they're taking it away from me?arggh Mike "Renee" wrote in message news ![]() A) No - the Quick Access Toolbar is the customization for Office 2007. You can create a custom tab via a COM Addin. (See MSDN for more info on that). B) There is no way to display the text instead of the macro icon; the only time text will display on the QAT is for checkbox controls. You can specify an icon and custom tooltip for your macro button in the Customization dialog by selecting your macro in the right-side list and clicking the Modify button, if that will help in distinguishing one command from another. "JR" wrote: In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? -- Thanks JR |
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I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but
didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com |
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Yep, it's definitely a template. Not only does it save into my User
Templates folder but the Save As Type is set to Document Template (*.dot). In addition, when I apply the template to my document, the heading colors change (that was the main reason I wanted to have a new version of my template). Of course, now that I posted over here, Shauna responded to my message over in the other forum so I've got you both working on it. I tried her suggestions as well but to no avail. I really didn't mean to get the same thing going in two different groups... sorry about that. Thanks for your help. Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... The first thing that comes to mind is to check that the template is actually a .dot file. The extension has nothing to do with it: a template has a different internal structure. If you attempt to attach a document to another document, it won't stick. Open the template and try a Save As. If Word directs you to your User Templates folder, then you do indeed have a template open. If Word does not change the current directory when you attempt to save, the file is a .doc internally, no matter what the extension says. Cheers On 2/2/07 6:58 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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We have a load of macros in a custom toolbar in 2003. If you open the 2003
..dot file as a 'My Template' all the macros appear in a custom toolbars in 'Add-ins' "JR" wrote: In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? -- Thanks JR |
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So what did she SAY??? I hate Shauna: not only does she live close enough
to physically threaten me (and she does...) but she's smarter than me :-) I can't work out what's going on he * Word will remember the last several templates attached to a document (I think it's up to 10) * Word will attempt to open the attached template on document open * If it cannot find the attached template at its attached location, it searches a hierarchy of locations for the template. * If the template is not in any of them, THEN it might accept a previous template, provided that template was in either the User Templates folder, the Workgroup Templates folder, or the same folder as the Word executable. Would you mind posting the full file path to the two templates involved? Provided, of course, Shauna doesn't beat me to it :-) On 6/2/07 3:27 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Yep, it's definitely a template. Not only does it save into my User Templates folder but the Save As Type is set to Document Template (*.dot). In addition, when I apply the template to my document, the heading colors change (that was the main reason I wanted to have a new version of my template). Of course, now that I posted over here, Shauna responded to my message over in the other forum so I've got you both working on it. I tried her suggestions as well but to no avail. I really didn't mean to get the same thing going in two different groups... sorry about that. Thanks for your help. Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... The first thing that comes to mind is to check that the template is actually a .dot file. The extension has nothing to do with it: a template has a different internal structure. If you attempt to attach a document to another document, it won't stick. Open the template and try a Save As. If Word directs you to your User Templates folder, then you do indeed have a template open. If Word does not change the current directory when you attempt to save, the file is a .doc internally, no matter what the extension says. Cheers On 2/2/07 6:58 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Hi John...
Both templates are in C:\Documents and Settings\MikeS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... So what did she SAY??? I hate Shauna: not only does she live close enough to physically threaten me (and she does...) but she's smarter than me :-) I can't work out what's going on he * Word will remember the last several templates attached to a document (I think it's up to 10) * Word will attempt to open the attached template on document open * If it cannot find the attached template at its attached location, it searches a hierarchy of locations for the template. * If the template is not in any of them, THEN it might accept a previous template, provided that template was in either the User Templates folder, the Workgroup Templates folder, or the same folder as the Word executable. Would you mind posting the full file path to the two templates involved? Provided, of course, Shauna doesn't beat me to it :-) On 6/2/07 3:27 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Yep, it's definitely a template. Not only does it save into my User Templates folder but the Save As Type is set to Document Template (*.dot). In addition, when I apply the template to my document, the heading colors change (that was the main reason I wanted to have a new version of my template). Of course, now that I posted over here, Shauna responded to my message over in the other forum so I've got you both working on it. I tried her suggestions as well but to no avail. I really didn't mean to get the same thing going in two different groups... sorry about that. Thanks for your help. Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... The first thing that comes to mind is to check that the template is actually a .dot file. The extension has nothing to do with it: a template has a different internal structure. If you attempt to attach a document to another document, it won't stick. Open the template and try a Save As. If Word directs you to your User Templates folder, then you do indeed have a template open. If Word does not change the current directory when you attempt to save, the file is a ..doc internally, no matter what the extension says. Cheers On 2/2/07 6:58 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Hi Mike:
OK, there's nothing odd about the file path, and it's on the local drive, so it's not that. Let's suspect a corrupted document, and maggie it... 1) Create a new blank document 2) Carefully select all of the text in the bad document EXCEPT the last paragraph mark 3) Copy it. 4) Paste in the new document. 5) Save under a new file name and close all, then re-open. This technique for de-corrupting is known around the world as "Doing a 'Maggie'", after Margaret Secara from the Word PC-L mailing list who first publicised the technique. See if that changes anything. You may have to maggie both the templates as well as the documents. Cheers On 10/2/07 3:19 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Hi John... Both templates are in C:\Documents and Settings\MikeS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... So what did she SAY??? I hate Shauna: not only does she live close enough to physically threaten me (and she does...) but she's smarter than me :-) I can't work out what's going on he * Word will remember the last several templates attached to a document (I think it's up to 10) * Word will attempt to open the attached template on document open * If it cannot find the attached template at its attached location, it searches a hierarchy of locations for the template. * If the template is not in any of them, THEN it might accept a previous template, provided that template was in either the User Templates folder, the Workgroup Templates folder, or the same folder as the Word executable. Would you mind posting the full file path to the two templates involved? Provided, of course, Shauna doesn't beat me to it :-) On 6/2/07 3:27 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Yep, it's definitely a template. Not only does it save into my User Templates folder but the Save As Type is set to Document Template (*.dot). In addition, when I apply the template to my document, the heading colors change (that was the main reason I wanted to have a new version of my template). Of course, now that I posted over here, Shauna responded to my message over in the other forum so I've got you both working on it. I tried her suggestions as well but to no avail. I really didn't mean to get the same thing going in two different groups... sorry about that. Thanks for your help. Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... The first thing that comes to mind is to check that the template is actually a .dot file. The extension has nothing to do with it: a template has a different internal structure. If you attempt to attach a document to another document, it won't stick. Open the template and try a Save As. If Word directs you to your User Templates folder, then you do indeed have a template open. If Word does not change the current directory when you attempt to save, the file is a .doc internally, no matter what the extension says. Cheers On 2/2/07 6:58 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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I've been hanging out on these groups for ages... Maggie's on at least two
of my mailing lists and I seem to recall that it was the mysteriously vanished Heretic who christened the procedure the Maggie. Now for the critical question... which template should I use for the new document? Usually in these groups there's only one template operative on a user's system so it's not really an issue but here, it's probably a big factor. I guess I can just try it with all three of the templates that might have some hand in this fracas... normal.dot, Template1.dot or Template2.dot. I'll see if I can't manage to give it a try this coming weekend. Since it's not a major problem in my life at the moment (the only things that are different about the two templates are font colors so even when I change the template, there's no reflow). Thanks much... Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Hi Mike: OK, there's nothing odd about the file path, and it's on the local drive, so it's not that. Let's suspect a corrupted document, and maggie it... 1) Create a new blank document 2) Carefully select all of the text in the bad document EXCEPT the last paragraph mark 3) Copy it. 4) Paste in the new document. 5) Save under a new file name and close all, then re-open. This technique for de-corrupting is known around the world as "Doing a 'Maggie'", after Margaret Secara from the Word PC-L mailing list who first publicised the technique. See if that changes anything. You may have to maggie both the templates as well as the documents. Cheers On 10/2/07 3:19 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Hi John... Both templates are in C:\Documents and Settings\MikeS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... So what did she SAY??? I hate Shauna: not only does she live close enough to physically threaten me (and she does...) but she's smarter than me :-) I can't work out what's going on he * Word will remember the last several templates attached to a document (I think it's up to 10) * Word will attempt to open the attached template on document open * If it cannot find the attached template at its attached location, it searches a hierarchy of locations for the template. * If the template is not in any of them, THEN it might accept a previous template, provided that template was in either the User Templates folder, the Workgroup Templates folder, or the same folder as the Word executable. Would you mind posting the full file path to the two templates involved? Provided, of course, Shauna doesn't beat me to it :-) On 6/2/07 3:27 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Yep, it's definitely a template. Not only does it save into my User Templates folder but the Save As Type is set to Document Template (*.dot). In addition, when I apply the template to my document, the heading colors change (that was the main reason I wanted to have a new version of my template). Of course, now that I posted over here, Shauna responded to my message over in the other forum so I've got you both working on it. I tried her suggestions as well but to no avail. I really didn't mean to get the same thing going in two different groups... sorry about that. Thanks for your help. Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... The first thing that comes to mind is to check that the template is actually a .dot file. The extension has nothing to do with it: a template has a different internal structure. If you attempt to attach a document to another document, it won't stick. Open the template and try a Save As. If Word directs you to your User Templates folder, then you do indeed have a template open. If Word does not change the current directory when you attempt to save, the file is a .doc internally, no matter what the extension says. Cheers On 2/2/07 6:58 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() 697-6334 Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Hi Mike:
The Heretic (Steve Hudson) was at my home last week. He left when the fridge was empty... Steve has gotten the irrits with us all, and invites us all to bend over while he widens our vista... :-) I'm sure he will be back on the internet when he gets it out of his system :-) You're correct: I believe Steve named it the Maggie :-) If the fact that the template is not sticking is because the OLE Object Store (the last paragraph marker) has corrupted, then the corruption exists in the document to which the template will not remain attached. Maggie that. However, since that document was freshly-created from a template, that means the corruption is ALSO present in the template from which it was created. So Maggie that too. And since that template was created.... You get the idea :-) Cheers On 15/2/07 9:46 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I've been hanging out on these groups for ages... Maggie's on at least two of my mailing lists and I seem to recall that it was the mysteriously vanished Heretic who christened the procedure the Maggie. Now for the critical question... which template should I use for the new document? Usually in these groups there's only one template operative on a user's system so it's not really an issue but here, it's probably a big factor. I guess I can just try it with all three of the templates that might have some hand in this fracas... normal.dot, Template1.dot or Template2.dot. I'll see if I can't manage to give it a try this coming weekend. Since it's not a major problem in my life at the moment (the only things that are different about the two templates are font colors so even when I change the template, there's no reflow). Thanks much... Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Hi Mike: OK, there's nothing odd about the file path, and it's on the local drive, so it's not that. Let's suspect a corrupted document, and maggie it... 1) Create a new blank document 2) Carefully select all of the text in the bad document EXCEPT the last paragraph mark 3) Copy it. 4) Paste in the new document. 5) Save under a new file name and close all, then re-open. This technique for de-corrupting is known around the world as "Doing a 'Maggie'", after Margaret Secara from the Word PC-L mailing list who first publicised the technique. See if that changes anything. You may have to maggie both the templates as well as the documents. Cheers On 10/2/07 3:19 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Hi John... Both templates are in C:\Documents and Settings\MikeS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... So what did she SAY??? I hate Shauna: not only does she live close enough to physically threaten me (and she does...) but she's smarter than me :-) I can't work out what's going on he * Word will remember the last several templates attached to a document (I think it's up to 10) * Word will attempt to open the attached template on document open * If it cannot find the attached template at its attached location, it searches a hierarchy of locations for the template. * If the template is not in any of them, THEN it might accept a previous template, provided that template was in either the User Templates folder, the Workgroup Templates folder, or the same folder as the Word executable. Would you mind posting the full file path to the two templates involved? Provided, of course, Shauna doesn't beat me to it :-) On 6/2/07 3:27 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Yep, it's definitely a template. Not only does it save into my User Templates folder but the Save As Type is set to Document Template (*.dot). In addition, when I apply the template to my document, the heading colors change (that was the main reason I wanted to have a new version of my template). Of course, now that I posted over here, Shauna responded to my message over in the other forum so I've got you both working on it. I tried her suggestions as well but to no avail. I really didn't mean to get the same thing going in two different groups... sorry about that. Thanks for your help. Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... The first thing that comes to mind is to check that the template is actually a .dot file. The extension has nothing to do with it: a template has a different internal structure. If you attempt to attach a document to another document, it won't stick. Open the template and try a Save As. If Word directs you to your User Templates folder, then you do indeed have a template open. If Word does not change the current directory when you attempt to save, the file is a .doc internally, no matter what the extension says. Cheers On 2/2/07 6:58 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() 697-6334 Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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Thanks. I've got the macro toolbar displayed in Add Ins now, but the macros
won't work. I can't edit them in Visual Basic as the "Project is locked". My visual basic knowledge is very basic and I can't figure out how to unlock the macros in the old template. Any suggestions? It's doing my head in! -- Thanks JR "Jay Freedman" wrote: JR wrote: In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 No. If you import a Word 2003 template that contains a custom toolbar, it will display in the Add-Ins tab (which is otherwise not present). There are not, and cannot be, other toolbars in 2007. B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? You don't. The QAT allows icons only. Visit http://www.pschmid.net/index.php to learn how to customize the Ribbon. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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Ah, I'm glad to hear himself is still alive and well and that all but your
larder apparently survived his visit. I have to admit both you and he are on my list of folks I'd love to buy a cold one if we're ever in the same neck of the woods. I kinda got the impression from his last message that he was in a snit about something. With respect to his invitation to bend over... only if he promises to respect me in the morning. Meanwhile, when the opportunity presents itself, I'll Maggie the bejeesus out of everything and see what happens. Probably won't happen for a week or two at best. Thanks again for the help and suggestions. Best regards Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Hi Mike: The Heretic (Steve Hudson) was at my home last week. He left when the fridge was empty... Steve has gotten the irrits with us all, and invites us all to bend over while he widens our vista... :-) I'm sure he will be back on the internet when he gets it out of his system :-) You're correct: I believe Steve named it the Maggie :-) If the fact that the template is not sticking is because the OLE Object Store (the last paragraph marker) has corrupted, then the corruption exists in the document to which the template will not remain attached. Maggie that. However, since that document was freshly-created from a template, that means the corruption is ALSO present in the template from which it was created. So Maggie that too. And since that template was created.... You get the idea :-) Cheers On 15/2/07 9:46 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I've been hanging out on these groups for ages... Maggie's on at least two of my mailing lists and I seem to recall that it was the mysteriously vanished Heretic who christened the procedure the Maggie. Now for the critical question... which template should I use for the new document? Usually in these groups there's only one template operative on a user's system so it's not really an issue but here, it's probably a big factor. I guess I can just try it with all three of the templates that might have some hand in this fracas... normal.dot, Template1.dot or Template2.dot. I'll see if I can't manage to give it a try this coming weekend. Since it's not a major problem in my life at the moment (the only things that are different about the two templates are font colors so even when I change the template, there's no reflow). Thanks much... Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... Hi Mike: OK, there's nothing odd about the file path, and it's on the local drive, so it's not that. Let's suspect a corrupted document, and maggie it... 1) Create a new blank document 2) Carefully select all of the text in the bad document EXCEPT the last paragraph mark 3) Copy it. 4) Paste in the new document. 5) Save under a new file name and close all, then re-open. This technique for de-corrupting is known around the world as "Doing a 'Maggie'", after Margaret Secara from the Word PC-L mailing list who first publicised the technique. See if that changes anything. You may have to maggie both the templates as well as the documents. Cheers On 10/2/07 3:19 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Hi John... Both templates are in C:\Documents and Settings\MikeS\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... So what did she SAY??? I hate Shauna: not only does she live close enough to physically threaten me (and she does...) but she's smarter than me :-) I can't work out what's going on he * Word will remember the last several templates attached to a document (I think it's up to 10) * Word will attempt to open the attached template on document open * If it cannot find the attached template at its attached location, it searches a hierarchy of locations for the template. * If the template is not in any of them, THEN it might accept a previous template, provided that template was in either the User Templates folder, the Workgroup Templates folder, or the same folder as the Word executable. Would you mind posting the full file path to the two templates involved? Provided, of course, Shauna doesn't beat me to it :-) On 6/2/07 3:27 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: Yep, it's definitely a template. Not only does it save into my User Templates folder but the Save As Type is set to Document Template (*.dot). In addition, when I apply the template to my document, the heading colors change (that was the main reason I wanted to have a new version of my template). Of course, now that I posted over here, Shauna responded to my message over in the other forum so I've got you both working on it. I tried her suggestions as well but to no avail. I really didn't mean to get the same thing going in two different groups... sorry about that. Thanks for your help. Mike "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]" wrote in message ... The first thing that comes to mind is to check that the template is actually a .dot file. The extension has nothing to do with it: a template has a different internal structure. If you attempt to attach a document to another document, it won't stick. Open the template and try a Save As. If Word directs you to your User Templates folder, then you do indeed have a template open. If Word does not change the current directory when you attempt to save, the file is a .doc internally, no matter what the extension says. Cheers On 2/2/07 6:58 AM, in article , "Mike Starr" wrote: I tried posting this over on microsoft.public.word.formatting.longdocs but didn't get any nibbles so I figured I'd try over here... I'm working on a user manual. I created Manual.doc based on Template1 (FileNewTemplate1.dot). Then I decided that I'd like to have an alternate format so I opened Template1.dot, made some changes (mostly just a different color for heading and emphasis text) and saved it as Template2.dot. So then I opened Manual.doc and changed the template (ToolsTemplates and AddinsTemplate2.dotAttach... Automatically update document styles=checked). Saved a new version of the document (Manual2.doc). Open Manual2.doc and it's back to being attached to Template1.dot instead of Template2.dot. Nothing I do seems to be able to get my choice of templates to stick. Now it's not a major problem... I can change it manually in a few seconds or even write an AutoOpen macro to handle it but I can't for the life of me figure out why on earth the template selection doesn't stick. Any thoughts?? Thanks Mike -- Mike Starr WriteStarr Information Services Technical Writer - Online Help Developer - Website developer Graphic Designer - Desktop Publisher - MS Office Expert Phone: (262) 694-1028 - Tollfree: (877) 892-1028 - Fax ![]() 697-6334 Email: - Web: http://www.writestarr.com -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 -- Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email me unless I ask you to. John McGhie Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant Technical Writer. Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410 |
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You have to open either the template itself or a document based on the
template to make the project available for editing. The easiest way to open the template itself is to find it in Windows Explorer, right-click it, and choose Open (instead of the default action "New"). -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. JR wrote: Thanks. I've got the macro toolbar displayed in Add Ins now, but the macros won't work. I can't edit them in Visual Basic as the "Project is locked". My visual basic knowledge is very basic and I can't figure out how to unlock the macros in the old template. Any suggestions? It's doing my head in! JR wrote: In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 No. If you import a Word 2003 template that contains a custom toolbar, it will display in the Add-Ins tab (which is otherwise not present). There are not, and cannot be, other toolbars in 2007. B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? You don't. The QAT allows icons only. Visit http://www.pschmid.net/index.php to learn how to customize the Ribbon. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. |
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If you import macros written in Word XP to 2007, a right-click gives you the
option "Add group to quick access toolbar". If you do this, it adds a button to the quick access toolbar which, when clicked, displays whatever you used to see in XP -including text labels for your macros if these macros were originally labelled with text. I'm no expert and have just discovered this by accident, but it's cheered me up no end! Hope it helps you too. -- Ken Knight "JR" wrote: In Word 2003 I had a toolbar with macro buttons, each displaying text. A) Is it possible to create a customised toolbar in 2007 B) Having put macro buttons on the Quick Access toolbar, how do you display text instead of the macro icon? -- Thanks JR |
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