In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories (the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are "UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't find a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories (the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are "UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't find a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

I feel sure there must be a Unicode character for this, but I don't find it
even in Arial Unicode MS. You might try experimenting with the EQ \o field
(see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Overbar.htm) to create the composite
character, using a circle font character such as character 129 in Wingdings
2. I had a shot at this and achieved not half bad results using Arial for
the UL. I had to increase the font size for the Wingdings character and
raise the U and L. After creating the EQ field character I applied
superscript formatting to the whole thing. It's not perfect but I think
might work with some tweaking. Once you get the character to look right, you
could save it as an AutoText entry.

Perhaps a better approach would be to find the UL symbol as a small graphic
and save it as an AutoText entry. One source of such a graphic would be
http://www.ul.com/mark/art.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...
In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

Excellent suggestion, Jay!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

There's somethng wrong with the logic here but I'm not smart enough to put my
finger right on it, BUT: Underwriter's Laboratories does a service to
consumers (whether they get paid for it is beside the point) by testing
various products to determine whether they are safe to purchase and use. The
makers of the products who have done a proper job get to proudly display the
logo of a UL in a circle (and, again, whether they pay for the right to do so
is immaterial with respect to this discussion) as this signifies that the
item is "UL Approved". I don't think it requires a mindreader to state that
U.L. wants the public to recognize that logo, become aware of what it
signifies, rely upon it, and feel reassured when they see it displayed.

I think that I take the position that when one is giving a factual account
of the features of a consumer electronics product the typing of that
registered trademark is not illegal but in that context is in fact a fair use
of it for its intended purpose. From that it logically follows that
promulgating information about how to construct the logo on a computer is not
only appropriate but something U.L. should be encouraging.

But of course I could be wrong....

dmmcwethy
"callow newbie"

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

Excellent suggestion, Jay!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

That is an issue you need to direct at UL, not in a newsgroup for Microsoft
Word. We are merely volunteers who do what we can to share what we know
about certain software programs. Going to the source is always a better idea
if an issue involves a legal matter.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...
There's somethng wrong with the logic here but I'm not smart enough to put
my
finger right on it, BUT: Underwriter's Laboratories does a service to
consumers (whether they get paid for it is beside the point) by testing
various products to determine whether they are safe to purchase and use.
The
makers of the products who have done a proper job get to proudly display
the
logo of a UL in a circle (and, again, whether they pay for the right to do
so
is immaterial with respect to this discussion) as this signifies that the
item is "UL Approved". I don't think it requires a mindreader to state
that
U.L. wants the public to recognize that logo, become aware of what it
signifies, rely upon it, and feel reassured when they see it displayed.

I think that I take the position that when one is giving a factual account
of the features of a consumer electronics product the typing of that
registered trademark is not illegal but in that context is in fact a fair
use
of it for its intended purpose. From that it logically follows that
promulgating information about how to construct the logo on a computer is
not
only appropriate but something U.L. should be encouraging.

But of course I could be wrong....

dmmcwethy
"callow newbie"

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

Excellent suggestion, Jay!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't
find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

That is an issue you need to direct at UL, not in a newsgroup for Microsoft
Word. We are merely volunteers who do what we can to share what we know
about certain software programs. Going to the source is always a better idea
if an issue involves a legal matter.

-- This was my first time to post a question to a newsgroup. My thanks to all who responded; I hope I didn't step on too many procedural toes.

dmmcwethy

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...
There's somethng wrong with the logic here but I'm not smart enough to put
my
finger right on it, BUT: Underwriter's Laboratories does a service to
consumers (whether they get paid for it is beside the point) by testing
various products to determine whether they are safe to purchase and use.
The
makers of the products who have done a proper job get to proudly display
the
logo of a UL in a circle (and, again, whether they pay for the right to do
so
is immaterial with respect to this discussion) as this signifies that the
item is "UL Approved". I don't think it requires a mindreader to state
that
U.L. wants the public to recognize that logo, become aware of what it
signifies, rely upon it, and feel reassured when they see it displayed.

I think that I take the position that when one is giving a factual account
of the features of a consumer electronics product the typing of that
registered trademark is not illegal but in that context is in fact a fair
use
of it for its intended purpose. From that it logically follows that
promulgating information about how to construct the logo on a computer is
not
only appropriate but something U.L. should be encouraging.

But of course I could be wrong....

dmmcwethy
"callow newbie"

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

Excellent suggestion, Jay!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't
find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

The symbol is here. It is an .eps image.
http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/sear...search&text=ul

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

That is an issue you need to direct at UL, not in a newsgroup for Microsoft
Word. We are merely volunteers who do what we can to share what we know
about certain software programs. Going to the source is always a better idea
if an issue involves a legal matter.

-- This was my first time to post a question to a newsgroup. My thanks to all who
responded; I hope I didn't step on too many procedural toes.

dmmcwethy

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...
There's somethng wrong with the logic here but I'm not smart enough to put
my
finger right on it, BUT: Underwriter's Laboratories does a service to
consumers (whether they get paid for it is beside the point) by testing
various products to determine whether they are safe to purchase and use.
The
makers of the products who have done a proper job get to proudly display
the
logo of a UL in a circle (and, again, whether they pay for the right to do
so
is immaterial with respect to this discussion) as this signifies that the
item is "UL Approved". I don't think it requires a mindreader to state
that
U.L. wants the public to recognize that logo, become aware of what it
signifies, rely upon it, and feel reassured when they see it displayed.

I think that I take the position that when one is giving a factual account
of the features of a consumer electronics product the typing of that
registered trademark is not illegal but in that context is in fact a fair
use
of it for its intended purpose. From that it logically follows that
promulgating information about how to construct the logo on a computer is
not
only appropriate but something U.L. should be encouraging.

But of course I could be wrong....

dmmcwethy
"callow newbie"

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

Excellent suggestion, Jay!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I can't
find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

It is also available (in .eps and other formats) at
http://www.ul.com/mark/art.htm, as I posted yesterday.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Mary Sauer" wrote in message
...
The symbol is here. It is an .eps image.
http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/sear...search&text=ul

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

That is an issue you need to direct at UL, not in a newsgroup for
Microsoft
Word. We are merely volunteers who do what we can to share what we know
about certain software programs. Going to the source is always a better
idea
if an issue involves a legal matter.

-- This was my first time to post a question to a newsgroup. My thanks
to all who
responded; I hope I didn't step on too many procedural toes.

dmmcwethy

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...
There's somethng wrong with the logic here but I'm not smart enough
to put
my
finger right on it, BUT: Underwriter's Laboratories does a service
to
consumers (whether they get paid for it is beside the point) by
testing
various products to determine whether they are safe to purchase and
use.
The
makers of the products who have done a proper job get to proudly
display
the
logo of a UL in a circle (and, again, whether they pay for the right
to do
so
is immaterial with respect to this discussion) as this signifies that
the
item is "UL Approved". I don't think it requires a mindreader to
state
that
U.L. wants the public to recognize that logo, become aware of what
it
signifies, rely upon it, and feel reassured when they see it
displayed.

I think that I take the position that when one is giving a factual
account
of the features of a consumer electronics product the typing of that
registered trademark is not illegal but in that context is in fact a
fair
use
of it for its intended purpose. From that it logically follows that
promulgating information about how to construct the logo on a
computer is
not
only appropriate but something U.L. should be encouraging.

But of course I could be wrong....

dmmcwethy
"callow newbie"

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

Excellent suggestion, Jay!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's
Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical
components are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the
other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I
can't
find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and
a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be
illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

You didn't step on any toes (at least none that I see) - and I see that Mary
and Suzanne gave you links to where the symbol can be found.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...


"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

That is an issue you need to direct at UL, not in a newsgroup for
Microsoft
Word. We are merely volunteers who do what we can to share what we know
about certain software programs. Going to the source is always a better
idea
if an issue involves a legal matter.

-- This was my first time to post a question to a newsgroup. My thanks
to all who responded; I hope I didn't step on too many procedural toes.

dmmcwethy

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"dmmcwethy" wrote in message
...
There's somethng wrong with the logic here but I'm not smart enough to
put
my
finger right on it, BUT: Underwriter's Laboratories does a service to
consumers (whether they get paid for it is beside the point) by testing
various products to determine whether they are safe to purchase and
use.
The
makers of the products who have done a proper job get to proudly
display
the
logo of a UL in a circle (and, again, whether they pay for the right to
do
so
is immaterial with respect to this discussion) as this signifies that
the
item is "UL Approved". I don't think it requires a mindreader to state
that
U.L. wants the public to recognize that logo, become aware of what it
signifies, rely upon it, and feel reassured when they see it displayed.

I think that I take the position that when one is giving a factual
account
of the features of a consumer electronics product the typing of that
registered trademark is not illegal but in that context is in fact a
fair
use
of it for its intended purpose. From that it logically follows that
promulgating information about how to construct the logo on a computer
is
not
only appropriate but something U.L. should be encouraging.

But of course I could be wrong....

dmmcwethy
"callow newbie"

"JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:

Excellent suggestion, Jay!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:45:02 -0800, dmmcwethy
wrote:

In Word 2003, I need to find the symbol for Underwriter's
Laboratories
(the
letters UL in a circle) to indicate that some electrical components
are
"UL
approved". The Insert/Symbol approach works beautifully for the
other
symbols I need (the ones for "copyright" and "trademark") but I
can't
find
a
font that has the "UL symbol", nor can I type a superscript U and a
subscript
L in a text box overlaid over a circle and then "group" them.

Anyone's help would be appreciated.

The symbol is a trademark of Underwriter's Laboratories Inc., so
unless you have their permission, using it in print would be
illegal.
To get their permission, and presumably an electronic copy of the
mark, contact them directly at http://www.ul.com/.

--
Regards,
Jay Freedman
Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.