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Umlauting vowels
In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things
like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke |
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EINZIG wrote:
In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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The reason the numeric keypad method isn't working is that Einzig is using
the three-digit ASCII codes for the characters. This method can still be used in Word but requires four-digit codes; just add 0 to the front: Alt+0xxx. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Einzig:
Jay is quite right. That is the easiest way to insert occasional foreign characters in Word, such as the umlaut. Trying to remember Alt and numbers seems a bit harder, but obviously it was OK for you. Unfortunately, my experience is that the Ctrl+Shift stuff works only in Word. If you are using a foreign language a lot, such as German, you can set up your keyboard for that language in Word, and toggle back and forth between that language and English, or any other language. The big problem is that unless you have an actual keyboard for that language, you have to remember what keys produce which characters. Drove me nuts. "EINZIG" wrote in message ... In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke |
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Thanx Jay
This certainly is easier for umlauts - I have not yet explored your "also see" but will do so asap. My main concern is the vowels Thank you again e "Jay Freedman" wrote: EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Thanx Suzanne
I tried your suggestion, but still no joy. Have another method from Jay Freedman that solves 99% of my problem Thank you again errol wobcke "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The reason the numeric keypad method isn't working is that Einzig is using the three-digit ASCII codes for the characters. This method can still be used in Word but requires four-digit codes; just add 0 to the front: Alt+0xxx. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Thanx Joseph
Yes, I concur, Jay's is the best solution for my needs. It is only occasionally that the umlaut is essential in German - mostly oe ue [und so weiter] can be employed without sacrifice of accuracy. If indeed this works only in Word, my 'old' way still works in OE, so I'm in good shape! Thank you again errol wobcke "Joseph McGuire" wrote: Einzig: Jay is quite right. That is the easiest way to insert occasional foreign characters in Word, such as the umlaut. Trying to remember Alt and numbers seems a bit harder, but obviously it was OK for you. Unfortunately, my experience is that the Ctrl+Shift stuff works only in Word. If you are using a foreign language a lot, such as German, you can set up your keyboard for that language in Word, and toggle back and forth between that language and English, or any other language. The big problem is that unless you have an actual keyboard for that language, you have to remember what keys produce which characters. Drove me nuts. "EINZIG" wrote in message ... In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke |
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G'day again Suzanne
Playing around with four-digit entries, I found some interesting things; is there a list of characters and their access numbers available? Is there one, do you know, for three-digit entries? Thanks again errol woebcke "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The reason the numeric keypad method isn't working is that Einzig is using the three-digit ASCII codes for the characters. This method can still be used in Word but requires four-digit codes; just add 0 to the front: Alt+0xxx. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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The four digit ones are the same as the three-digit ones with a zero added.
You can see these numbers (as shortcut keys) in Insert | Symbol if you set the "from" setting to "ASCII (decimal)" instead of "Unicode (hex)." -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "EINZIG" wrote in message ... G'day again Suzanne Playing around with four-digit entries, I found some interesting things; is there a list of characters and their access numbers available? Is there one, do you know, for three-digit entries? Thanks again errol woebcke "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The reason the numeric keypad method isn't working is that Einzig is using the three-digit ASCII codes for the characters. This method can still be used in Word but requires four-digit codes; just add 0 to the front: Alt+0xxx. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Jay Freedman" wrote in message ... EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Your point qbout not knowing which keys produce what characters is not a
minor one; I need to toggle between severql keyboards,; and nowhere can I find a character map or over lay or AN YTHING to figure this out - it seems the only solution is to strike every key in every lqngqge set qnd keep q file of the results ::: Oh and did I mention that the key to switch keyboards often gets hit by mistake??? -- Thanks for sharing your knowledge - Di "Einzig" wrote: Thanx Joseph Yes, I concur, Jay's is the best solution for my needs. It is only occasionally that the umlaut is essential in German - mostly oe ue [und so weiter] can be employed without sacrifice of accuracy. If indeed this works only in Word, my 'old' way still works in OE, so I'm in good shape! Thank you again errol wobcke "Joseph McGuire" wrote: Einzig: Jay is quite right. That is the easiest way to insert occasional foreign characters in Word, such as the umlaut. Trying to remember Alt and numbers seems a bit harder, but obviously it was OK for you. Unfortunately, my experience is that the Ctrl+Shift stuff works only in Word. If you are using a foreign language a lot, such as German, you can set up your keyboard for that language in Word, and toggle back and forth between that language and English, or any other language. The big problem is that unless you have an actual keyboard for that language, you have to remember what keys produce which characters. Drove me nuts. "EINZIG" wrote in message ... In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke |
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Umlauting vowels
I know this is an 'old' one and I have read the previous discussion thread.
However, "CTRL,SHIFT : letter" only works on my laptop if I have the capslock on. Then I obviously only get capitals with umlauts. If I don't put the capslock on then I get nothing at all. On my old PC (not a laptop) I was always able to get the umlauts using ALT 132/ 148/129 using the righthand numbers keypad. On the laptop I only have numbers across the top of the keypad and the ALT ++ does not work. I have alos tried adding a 0 in front of the numbers. The numlock key is definitely not turned off. I can use 'insert symbol' but this is very time consuming "Jay Freedman" wrote: EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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My guess is that you are not releasing the shift key before typing the
letter. The shortcut is actually Ctrl+colon, letter. You have to press Shift to get a colon instead of a semi-colon, but you then need to release the shift key before typing a lowercase letter in order to get an umlauted lowercase letter. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Christine" wrote in message ... I know this is an 'old' one and I have read the previous discussion thread. However, "CTRL,SHIFT : letter" only works on my laptop if I have the capslock on. Then I obviously only get capitals with umlauts. If I don't put the capslock on then I get nothing at all. On my old PC (not a laptop) I was always able to get the umlauts using ALT 132/ 148/129 using the righthand numbers keypad. On the laptop I only have numbers across the top of the keypad and the ALT ++ does not work. I have alos tried adding a 0 in front of the numbers. The numlock key is definitely not turned off. I can use 'insert symbol' but this is very time consuming "Jay Freedman" wrote: EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Thank you Suzanne - it works!!
"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My guess is that you are not releasing the shift key before typing the letter. The shortcut is actually Ctrl+colon, letter. You have to press Shift to get a colon instead of a semi-colon, but you then need to release the shift key before typing a lowercase letter in order to get an umlauted lowercase letter. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Christine" wrote in message ... I know this is an 'old' one and I have read the previous discussion thread. However, "CTRL,SHIFT : letter" only works on my laptop if I have the capslock on. Then I obviously only get capitals with umlauts. If I don't put the capslock on then I get nothing at all. On my old PC (not a laptop) I was always able to get the umlauts using ALT 132/ 148/129 using the righthand numbers keypad. On the laptop I only have numbers across the top of the keypad and the ALT ++ does not work. I have alos tried adding a 0 in front of the numbers. The numlock key is definitely not turned off. I can use 'insert symbol' but this is very time consuming "Jay Freedman" wrote: EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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The short cut in Word 2007 is Ctrl+Shift+Colon, release all kesy and then
type the vowel Test umlault Ctrl+Shift+Colon u gives ü "Christine" wrote in message ... I know this is an 'old' one and I have read the previous discussion thread. However, "CTRL,SHIFT : letter" only works on my laptop if I have the capslock on. Then I obviously only get capitals with umlauts. If I don't put the capslock on then I get nothing at all. On my old PC (not a laptop) I was always able to get the umlauts using ALT 132/ 148/129 using the righthand numbers keypad. On the laptop I only have numbers across the top of the keypad and the ALT ++ does not work. I have alos tried adding a 0 in front of the numbers. The numlock key is definitely not turned off. I can use 'insert symbol' but this is very time consuming "Jay Freedman" wrote: EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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I'm glad of your success.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Christine" wrote in message ... Thank you Suzanne - it works!! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: My guess is that you are not releasing the shift key before typing the letter. The shortcut is actually Ctrl+colon, letter. You have to press Shift to get a colon instead of a semi-colon, but you then need to release the shift key before typing a lowercase letter in order to get an umlauted lowercase letter. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Christine" wrote in message ... I know this is an 'old' one and I have read the previous discussion thread. However, "CTRL,SHIFT : letter" only works on my laptop if I have the capslock on. Then I obviously only get capitals with umlauts. If I don't put the capslock on then I get nothing at all. On my old PC (not a laptop) I was always able to get the umlauts using ALT 132/ 148/129 using the righthand numbers keypad. On the laptop I only have numbers across the top of the keypad and the ALT ++ does not work. I have alos tried adding a 0 in front of the numbers. The numlock key is definitely not turned off. I can use 'insert symbol' but this is very time consuming "Jay Freedman" wrote: EINZIG wrote: In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke Hi Errol, There are two separate issues here. I don't know why the Alt+number pad method wouldn't work in Word, unless perhaps you have the NumLock key turned off -- but then it wouldn't work in other programs, either. In Word, but not in other programs, there is an easier way. Word has shortcuts for many special characters. For example, to get any character that can take an umlaut, type Ctrl+Shift+: and then type the character, such as o or O. (To remember this, think of the colon as a sideways umlaut.) The default shortcuts are shown at the bottom of the Insert Symbol dialog when you select the character. Also see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/InsertSpecChars.htm for a list. -- Regards, Jay Freedman Microsoft Word MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org |
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Umlauting vowels
www.quickstudy.com has a quick reference guide to a lot of different
characters using the Alt key plus a 4 digit number. On my friends computer it works like magic, but not on mine. I've tried with the numbers lock on and off but still nothing. Anyone know what I am doing wrong? Loriane "Limey Di" wrote: Your point qbout not knowing which keys produce what characters is not a minor one; I need to toggle between severql keyboards,; and nowhere can I find a character map or over lay or AN YTHING to figure this out - it seems the only solution is to strike every key in every lqngqge set qnd keep q file of the results ::: Oh and did I mention that the key to switch keyboards often gets hit by mistake??? -- Thanks for sharing your knowledge - Di "Einzig" wrote: Thanx Joseph Yes, I concur, Jay's is the best solution for my needs. It is only occasionally that the umlaut is essential in German - mostly oe ue [und so weiter] can be employed without sacrifice of accuracy. If indeed this works only in Word, my 'old' way still works in OE, so I'm in good shape! Thank you again errol wobcke "Joseph McGuire" wrote: Einzig: Jay is quite right. That is the easiest way to insert occasional foreign characters in Word, such as the umlaut. Trying to remember Alt and numbers seems a bit harder, but obviously it was OK for you. Unfortunately, my experience is that the Ctrl+Shift stuff works only in Word. If you are using a foreign language a lot, such as German, you can set up your keyboard for that language in Word, and toggle back and forth between that language and English, or any other language. The big problem is that unless you have an actual keyboard for that language, you have to remember what keys produce which characters. Drove me nuts. "EINZIG" wrote in message ... In Word 2000 until recently I could umlaut vowels, and find useful things like the pound-sterling symbol, the degree symbol, by holding down the 'Alt' key, whilst simultaneously on the numeric keypad entering three digits. Such as: lower case 'o' - 148; upper case 'O' - 153; degree symbol -248; pound sterling sign - 156; and so on. I am sure much other stuff in there too. This method still works in OE, and in MS Works 7.0 - what has occurred? I think this is pretty snazzy facility, but probably there is somewhere an easier, better way to access these useful symbols. HELP! [please] Errol Wobcke |
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