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A TOC is not intended to be a working outline of a document; it is meant to
be a guide to where things are in the document (like the TOC in a book). By default, page numbers in a TOC (and in some Word versions the entire TOC entry) are linked to the content in the document. Because the TOC is a single field, it cannot be changed in the way you describe. This is just a backwards way of thinking about it. Perhaps what would work better for you is to work in Outline view (see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UsingOLView.htm), or you could use the Document Map to show you a working outline of the document, from which you can easily jump to any part of that document to add a new heading/section. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... (For people reading this, my last reply was bottom-posted (below), but the current reply to that was top-posted, so I'm top-posting here.) You seem to be saying the TOC can be updated to match a changed document (and I can rely on the automatic renumbering in the main document when I add something in the middle). I wanted to use the TOC as an evolving outline, so that stuff is concisely together so I can see it, and change it there. You seem to be saying I could go through dozen of pages to where a new entry goes, add it there, and then go back to the TOC and press F9. I want to do the opposite. I want to add it in the TOC, and have the entry created in the middle of the existing document. I may want to add several things like that at once, and go back and do the actual writing later. If I have to go through pages and pages to add each entry, that is a DISTRACTION TO THINKING. I can type much, much faster than I can write by hand. From my original post: "I also need the TOC to point to more than the page number - I want the TOC number repeated where the actual document text is:" I had read of "linking," and I hoped it would do that. It is not going to be helpful to me to have a TOC that can only be created/udpated when the document is DONE (or a change is ALREADY made), that's why I said "Again, I'm not interested in making something pretty when I'm done with it" at the beginning of my last post." Maybe the problem is I'm having a hard time getting across what I need. If MS Word won't do it, I need something else for this particular project (which I've been putting off...). That's what I want to know. You can't use a wrench as a screw driver, or "you need the right tool for the job." I used to write software, and it would be fairly easy to write. I could then take the finished result (the manuscript) and import it into MS Word to get the fonts I want and make it pretty. I may very well end up doing just that, if I can't find software that does BASIC OUTLINING. I don't care about pretty when I'm working on it. I need headings, tabs, and any readable font. When comparing the time is would take to write the software, vs. the time manually updating a TOC and then the main document, I think the benefit of being able to work with free flowing ideas in a concise TOC would outweigh the fact that writing that software would take longer than doing manually updating (which actually would only be true IF if already knew the whole format in advance, which I don't, and which I need the free flow of ideas to develop). I thought my original question was simple. This reply is a bit lengthy, but apparently I haven't said what I need effectively. I'm bothering with this in case there IS a way to get MS Word to do this, or something similar, because nobody here has said "NO," but rather seem to misunderstand what I need to do, or I'm misunderstanding and you are actually describing a way to do it. I do appreciate your time replying. On Feb 15, 12:37 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If the TOC is based on your numbered headings (or other styles), then all you have to do is press F9 in the TOC field to update it whenever you add new numbered headings/paragraphs. It does not update automatically, but neither do you have to "renumber" anything; you just update the field. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USAhttp://word.mvps.org wrote in message ... On Feb 12, 6:03 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: As described earlier in this thread, you can have Word pick up any paragraph style (numbered or unnumbered) in a table of contents. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP wrote in message ... On Dec 13 2008, 7:52 pm, "Robert M. Franz (RMF)" wrote: wrote: [..] I hope you can give me a suggestion on the method you find works the best in the long run. I am using MS Word 2000. How to create numbered headings or outline numbering in your Microsoft Word document (by Shauna Kelly)http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html So MS Word is not going to do what I need... I will look for something else. Again, I'm not interested in making something pretty when I'm done with it, but with an ongoing, evolving table of contents, where I don't have to renumber things either in the TOC at the top, or with the number below where the relevant text is, when I add a new entry in the TOC. Nobody has said MS Word will do this. My original post very clearly spells this out, but I will repeat it one last time. TOC: 1. Some stuff 'a' 2. Some stuff 'c' (Document text) 1. Stuff about 'a' 2. Sutff about 'c' I want to add 'b' between 1 and 2, without renumbering everything (in the TOC and in the numbers below.) With automatic renumbering (but apparently not if it's in a TOC), I can simply press enter and the end of the 1. line, and it will make a new 2., and renumber the existing 2. to 3., but that doesn't automatically do the other part. |
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