[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

I'd like to thank you too, Jay, for your explanation in this thread.

It seems to me that themes make more sense in PowerPoint, where you
basically have headings (for page titles) and body text (for the rest of the
text). In Word, you really can't keep it as simple (as I imagine themes are
supposed to be). Many different styles and point sizes don't quite fit with
the idea of themes.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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Thanks, Jay. I recall our discussions with Stuart about this and related
topics and certainly never envisioned anything this complex and confusing.
Luckily, I will probably need to do any of these things (not really into
themes much), but I'll save the info for future use as needed.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
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I have to say that I think Stuart & Co. aimed for flexibility and all they
really got was incomprehensible complexity. But if you can stick with it
for a bit...

You're right that setting a default font of a specific font does kill the
Themes; and you might actually want to do that for a specific template so
that "adventurous" users can't experiment on the corporate letterhead.
But if you do want Themes to be available, and you want a custom theme:

- On the Page Layout Themes button, choose a theme reasonably close to
what you want.
- Use the three buttons next to the Themes button to choose a different
color scheme, font, and/or graphics effect. This modifies the theme you
chose in the first step.
- On the Page Layout Themes button again, choose Save Current Theme.
The dialog automatically puts you in the Document Themes subfolder of the
Templates folder, and sets the Save As type to Office Theme (*.thmx).
Supply a name for the file, which becomes the name of the new theme.
- The new theme will appear in a "Custom" section at the top of the
Themes gallery.

I think choosing a specific font *size* in the Defaults dialog takes
effect whether or not you're using any particular theme. Themes are
concerned only with the font name, not its size.

The interaction of a theme and a Quick Style Set is a separate issue. If
the styles in the style set are defined to use the +Body and +Heading
fonts, then choosing a different theme will change the fonts and colors
of all the styles -- this is where the excessive complexity really kicks
in.

--
Jay

Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote:
The +Body part is what I don't understand. If you change the default
font from +Body to a specific font and size, then you lose the
ability to use themes, right? So is there a way to modify or create a
theme that has the fonts you want? I know you can select the Office
Classic font set and make that the default (same with Word 2003 style
set); does that accomplish what is wanted?


"Jay Freedman" wrote in message
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The old advice, which was valid up to Word 2003, was to modify the
Normal style in a new blank document to the desired font and size,
and select the option to apply the changes to all new documents
based on the current template (which would be Normal.dot).

This is not good advice for Word 2007, which has changed the rules.
The Normal style should not be modified in any way. Instead, press
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+S to open the Styles pane; click the Manage Styles
button (one of the three nearly identical buttons at the bottom);
and click the Set Defaults tab of the Manage Styles dialog. Set your
default font and paragraph settings there, select the "New documents
based on this template" option at the bottom, and click OK.

Note that the first two items in the Font list are "+Body" and
"+Headings". These allow the font to be selected through the Themes
settings on the Page Layout tab of the ribbon. That's the "general
formatting" you referred to.

Check out the training materials on http://office.microsoft.com.

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Regards,
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Kraftsims wrote:
I'm using Word 2007. New to this version, used to Word '97.

I'm wanting to set the default font and size of the font for each
document that opens. How do I do that?

I also have this hunch that there are so many features that I just
don't know how to leverage the power of. One in particular, not even
sure what it is called, but where you can set the look of the
docuement for bullets, spacing, size of titles, that kind of thing.
I guess it would be general formatting for a specific document?

I've not been trained on these abilities. Is there any kind of
online video/training that is available?

Thanks