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I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document
creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! |
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If you've put a CreateDate field in your template, then that's the best you
can do, short of a macro (which I think would be overkill). When you update fields (with F9 or by printing or switching to Print Preview), the date will be updated to the creation date of the document. Note, however, that it is probably not a good idea to put any sort of field in the Normal template, especially not in the header (you should avoid putting *anything* in the header or footer of Normal.dot, as it will adversely affect labels); you should create a specific document template for this purpose. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "john9210" wrote in message news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! |
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![]() If you've put a CreateDate field in your template, then that's the best you can do, short of a macro (which I think would be overkill). When you update fields (with F9 or by printing or switching to Print Preview), the date will be updated to the creation date of the document. Note, however, that it is probably not a good idea to put any sort of field in the Normal template, especially not in the header (you should avoid putting *anything* in the header or footer of Normal.dot, as it will adversely affect labels); you should create a specific document template for this purpose. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "john9210" wrote in message news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! |
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![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate
field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate
field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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Suzanne S. Barnhill typed: I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. No, I didn't misunderstand, but unlinking is a better & easier way to do it. Good catch. HTH, Twayne -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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Suzanne S. Barnhill typed: I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. No, I didn't misunderstand, but unlinking is a better & easier way to do it. Good catch. HTH, Twayne -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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Unlinking might be a better way to do it, but it is pointless and
counterproductive in this instance. What the OP wants is the date the document was created. What he is seeing in the document when it is created is the creation date of the template. If he unlinks that field, then he doesn't have the date he wants. If, instead, he updates the field (F9 instead of Shift+F9), then he will have the result he wants, it will never thereafter change, and unlinking is quite unnecessary. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Suzanne S. Barnhill typed: I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. No, I didn't misunderstand, but unlinking is a better & easier way to do it. Good catch. HTH, Twayne -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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Unlinking might be a better way to do it, but it is pointless and
counterproductive in this instance. What the OP wants is the date the document was created. What he is seeing in the document when it is created is the creation date of the template. If he unlinks that field, then he doesn't have the date he wants. If, instead, he updates the field (F9 instead of Shift+F9), then he will have the result he wants, it will never thereafter change, and unlinking is quite unnecessary. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In , Suzanne S. Barnhill typed: I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. No, I didn't misunderstand, but unlinking is a better & easier way to do it. Good catch. HTH, Twayne -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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If you have a CREATEDATE field in a template, then the creation date of the
template will always display if the template is opened in Word. However new documents created from the template will display the creation dates of the new documents. It should do this without any requirement to update the field in the new document. However merely opening the template in Word, filling it with data to save with a new name (a practice that some seem to find normal) will show the template creation date until the document is SavedAs with a new name and the field updated. To demonstrate the premise, open an existing template in Word. Add a createdate field to the header and save the template (not SAVEAS!). Now create a new document from the template. It should immediately show today's date. You can now remove the temporary createdate field from your template.and save it again. If a new document is created from a template with a createdate field and the field is not showing the date the document was created a fault condition is suggested. In those circumstances, I would be looking to http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/...artingWord.htm and http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921541 -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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If you have a CREATEDATE field in a template, then the creation date of the
template will always display if the template is opened in Word. However new documents created from the template will display the creation dates of the new documents. It should do this without any requirement to update the field in the new document. However merely opening the template in Word, filling it with data to save with a new name (a practice that some seem to find normal) will show the template creation date until the document is SavedAs with a new name and the field updated. To demonstrate the premise, open an existing template in Word. Add a createdate field to the header and save the template (not SAVEAS!). Now create a new document from the template. It should immediately show today's date. You can now remove the temporary createdate field from your template.and save it again. If a new document is created from a template with a createdate field and the field is not showing the date the document was created a fault condition is suggested. In those circumstances, I would be looking to http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/...artingWord.htm and http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921541 -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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I see now that you are right, but I could have sworn that I had some
templates that create documents on which the date is not correct until I print. A brief trial doesn't turn up any of these templates, however, so I stand corrected. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... If you have a CREATEDATE field in a template, then the creation date of the template will always display if the template is opened in Word. However new documents created from the template will display the creation dates of the new documents. It should do this without any requirement to update the field in the new document. However merely opening the template in Word, filling it with data to save with a new name (a practice that some seem to find normal) will show the template creation date until the document is SavedAs with a new name and the field updated. To demonstrate the premise, open an existing template in Word. Add a createdate field to the header and save the template (not SAVEAS!). Now create a new document from the template. It should immediately show today's date. You can now remove the temporary createdate field from your template.and save it again. If a new document is created from a template with a createdate field and the field is not showing the date the document was created a fault condition is suggested. In those circumstances, I would be looking to http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/...artingWord.htm and http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921541 -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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I see now that you are right, but I could have sworn that I had some
templates that create documents on which the date is not correct until I print. A brief trial doesn't turn up any of these templates, however, so I stand corrected. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Graham Mayor" wrote in message ... If you have a CREATEDATE field in a template, then the creation date of the template will always display if the template is opened in Word. However new documents created from the template will display the creation dates of the new documents. It should do this without any requirement to update the field in the new document. However merely opening the template in Word, filling it with data to save with a new name (a practice that some seem to find normal) will show the template creation date until the document is SavedAs with a new name and the field updated. To demonstrate the premise, open an existing template in Word. Add a createdate field to the header and save the template (not SAVEAS!). Now create a new document from the template. It should immediately show today's date. You can now remove the temporary createdate field from your template.and save it again. If a new document is created from a template with a createdate field and the field is not showing the date the document was created a fault condition is suggested. In those circumstances, I would be looking to http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/AppErrors/...artingWord.htm and http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921541 -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... I think you've misunderstood what the OP asked. He wants the CreateDate field to update to the current date automatically (once, on creation of the document). This does not happen when you create a document based on a template containing a CreateDate field. The field is updated when you print, Print Preview, or manually update fields. There is no need to cut/paste the field as plain text; you could merely unlink it using Ctrl+Shift+F9, but this would defeat the purpose if it had not yet been updated to the current date, as it would then reflect the creation date of the template rather than the document. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Twayne" wrote in message ... In news ![]() I want to change my normal template so the header displays the new document creation date without updating. That is, when I create a new document, the date should be the date the document is created, but does not get updated every time I open the document. When I use the createdate field, the date displayed is the date the template was created, not the new document! See Suzanne's comments re making a new template; she has a valid point. In the documents created from the template: You could use createdate, then do a Cut/Paste Special to put the date back as unformatted text. It won't change that way. AFAIK there is no way to do what you want to do in the template. A macro could do it, but I don't know how to write such a thing. HTH, Twayne -- -- Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered through personal experience does not become a part of the moral tissue. |
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That can certainly still happen in Word 2007 if the "template" is
actually a .docx, rather than a .dotx. While I am reasonably sure /you/ would always work from a proper template, others might not. The thing is that when you choose Office button-New, the items listed under "Recently used templates" may be .docx files as well as .dotx files, and may not list extensions depending on other settings. If you select a .docx rather than a .dotx and click Create, the existing value of a CREATEDATE field is not updated until you perfomr one of the actions that you would expect to update it (select, then F9 etc.). Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk On 08/02/2010 14:36, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: I see now that you are right, but I could have sworn that I had some templates that create documents on which the date is not correct until I print. A brief trial doesn't turn up any of these templates, however, so I stand corrected. |
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That can certainly still happen in Word 2007 if the "template" is
actually a .docx, rather than a .dotx. While I am reasonably sure /you/ would always work from a proper template, others might not. The thing is that when you choose Office button-New, the items listed under "Recently used templates" may be .docx files as well as .dotx files, and may not list extensions depending on other settings. If you select a .docx rather than a .dotx and click Create, the existing value of a CREATEDATE field is not updated until you perfomr one of the actions that you would expect to update it (select, then F9 etc.). Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk On 08/02/2010 14:36, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: I see now that you are right, but I could have sworn that I had some templates that create documents on which the date is not correct until I print. A brief trial doesn't turn up any of these templates, however, so I stand corrected. |
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Yes, and though I was ashamed to say so, I think my recollection may have
been based on use of (certain) documents as the basis for new ones (for example, there's a particular invoice statement that is easier to create this way because the wording is slightly different from that in my invoice template). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter Jamieson" wrote in message ... That can certainly still happen in Word 2007 if the "template" is actually a .docx, rather than a .dotx. While I am reasonably sure /you/ would always work from a proper template, others might not. The thing is that when you choose Office button-New, the items listed under "Recently used templates" may be .docx files as well as .dotx files, and may not list extensions depending on other settings. If you select a .docx rather than a .dotx and click Create, the existing value of a CREATEDATE field is not updated until you perfomr one of the actions that you would expect to update it (select, then F9 etc.). Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk On 08/02/2010 14:36, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: I see now that you are right, but I could have sworn that I had some templates that create documents on which the date is not correct until I print. A brief trial doesn't turn up any of these templates, however, so I stand corrected. |
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Yes, and though I was ashamed to say so, I think my recollection may have
been based on use of (certain) documents as the basis for new ones (for example, there's a particular invoice statement that is easier to create this way because the wording is slightly different from that in my invoice template). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Peter Jamieson" wrote in message ... That can certainly still happen in Word 2007 if the "template" is actually a .docx, rather than a .dotx. While I am reasonably sure /you/ would always work from a proper template, others might not. The thing is that when you choose Office button-New, the items listed under "Recently used templates" may be .docx files as well as .dotx files, and may not list extensions depending on other settings. If you select a .docx rather than a .dotx and click Create, the existing value of a CREATEDATE field is not updated until you perfomr one of the actions that you would expect to update it (select, then F9 etc.). Peter Jamieson http://tips.pjmsn.me.uk On 08/02/2010 14:36, Suzanne S. Barnhill wrote: I see now that you are right, but I could have sworn that I had some templates that create documents on which the date is not correct until I print. A brief trial doesn't turn up any of these templates, however, so I stand corrected. |
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