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Hi,
Is there any way of changing the citation format from word 2007 slightly. I've had a comment from a thesis reviewer that (author, et al. 2008) is incorrect. It should be (author et al. 2008) is there a way I can remove the comma from the format. I realize I may end up making the change and then changing it back once a different editor gets a hold of it.... but in the mean time I need to remove the comma from all the citations with et al. Thanks. -Sue |
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Yes, if you have XSLT knowledge, you can adapt the style to your needs. The
stylesheets are located at winword.exe directory\Bibliography\Style which commonly is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style Which style are you trying to change? And what part? I'm assuming in-text citations by the brackets. If you could answer these questions, I or someone else might be able to help you locate more closely as to what to change where in those large XSL files. Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Susan Koziel" Susan wrote in message ... Hi, Is there any way of changing the citation format from word 2007 slightly. I've had a comment from a thesis reviewer that (author, et al. 2008) is incorrect. It should be (author et al. 2008) is there a way I can remove the comma from the format. I realize I may end up making the change and then changing it back once a different editor gets a hold of it.... but in the mean time I need to remove the comma from all the citations with et al. Thanks. -Sue |
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The in text citations of both APA and Chicago style do this.
I looked through the style sheet and couldn't find the spot that dealt with the et al. I need to switch where the comma occurs before the et al. so (author, et al. 2008) needs to be (author et al. 2008) Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -Sue "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Yes, if you have XSLT knowledge, you can adapt the style to your needs. The stylesheets are located at winword.exe directory\Bibliography\Style which commonly is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style Which style are you trying to change? And what part? I'm assuming in-text citations by the brackets. If you could answer these questions, I or someone else might be able to help you locate more closely as to what to change where in those large XSL files. Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Susan Koziel" Susan wrote in message ... Hi, Is there any way of changing the citation format from word 2007 slightly. I've had a comment from a thesis reviewer that (author, et al. 2008) is incorrect. It should be (author et al. 2008) is there a way I can remove the comma from the format. I realize I may end up making the change and then changing it back once a different editor gets a hold of it.... but in the mean time I need to remove the comma from all the citations with et al. Thanks. -Sue |
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It might be interesting to create copies of the existing styles with
different names before starting to edit them. That way, you don't damage the original styles. To do so, see http://bibword.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=FAQ#Q8 Now, for APA, look for a piece of code looking like: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ListSeparator"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_str_AndOthersUnCap"/ /xsl:when It should be located somewhere around line 3940. Change it into: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:call-template name="templ_str_AndOthersUnCap"/ /xsl:when That way, the separator will be replaced by a single space. In the Chicago template, you will have to change the code around line 3817 which looks like: xsl:when test = "$cAuthors 3 and position() = $minAuthors" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ListSeparator"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_str_AndOthersUnCap"/ /xsl:when Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Susan Koziel" wrote in message ... The in text citations of both APA and Chicago style do this. I looked through the style sheet and couldn't find the spot that dealt with the et al. I need to switch where the comma occurs before the et al. so (author, et al. 2008) needs to be (author et al. 2008) Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -Sue "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Yes, if you have XSLT knowledge, you can adapt the style to your needs. The stylesheets are located at winword.exe directory\Bibliography\Style which commonly is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style Which style are you trying to change? And what part? I'm assuming in-text citations by the brackets. If you could answer these questions, I or someone else might be able to help you locate more closely as to what to change where in those large XSL files. Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Susan Koziel" Susan wrote in message ... Hi, Is there any way of changing the citation format from word 2007 slightly. I've had a comment from a thesis reviewer that (author, et al. 2008) is incorrect. It should be (author et al. 2008) is there a way I can remove the comma from the format. I realize I may end up making the change and then changing it back once a different editor gets a hold of it.... but in the mean time I need to remove the comma from all the citations with et al. Thanks. -Sue |
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Thanks for the code! It saves me time trying to figure it out.
-Sue "Yves Dhondt" wrote: It might be interesting to create copies of the existing styles with different names before starting to edit them. That way, you don't damage the original styles. To do so, see http://bibword.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?title=FAQ#Q8 Now, for APA, look for a piece of code looking like: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ListSeparator"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_str_AndOthersUnCap"/ /xsl:when It should be located somewhere around line 3940. Change it into: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:call-template name="templ_str_AndOthersUnCap"/ /xsl:when That way, the separator will be replaced by a single space. In the Chicago template, you will have to change the code around line 3817 which looks like: xsl:when test = "$cAuthors 3 and position() = $minAuthors" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ListSeparator"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_str_AndOthersUnCap"/ /xsl:when Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Susan Koziel" wrote in message ... The in text citations of both APA and Chicago style do this. I looked through the style sheet and couldn't find the spot that dealt with the et al. I need to switch where the comma occurs before the et al. so (author, et al. 2008) needs to be (author et al. 2008) Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -Sue "Yves Dhondt" wrote: Yes, if you have XSLT knowledge, you can adapt the style to your needs. The stylesheets are located at winword.exe directory\Bibliography\Style which commonly is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style Which style are you trying to change? And what part? I'm assuming in-text citations by the brackets. If you could answer these questions, I or someone else might be able to help you locate more closely as to what to change where in those large XSL files. Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Susan Koziel" Susan wrote in message ... Hi, Is there any way of changing the citation format from word 2007 slightly. I've had a comment from a thesis reviewer that (author, et al. 2008) is incorrect. It should be (author et al. 2008) is there a way I can remove the comma from the format. I realize I may end up making the change and then changing it back once a different editor gets a hold of it.... but in the mean time I need to remove the comma from all the citations with et al. Thanks. -Sue |
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I have another question on the same topic.
Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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Your approach should work, but you must make sure that you replace all
values '6' to '3'. Note that you can't do a global find/replace as this would influence some template names which contains the value '6' in their name. At first glance, without doing any extensive testing, the following works: xsl:variable name="author0" xsl:choose xsl:when test="string-length(msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:Source/b:Author/b:Main/b:Corporate) 0" xsl:value-of select="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:Source/b:Author/b:Main/b:Corporate" / /xsl:when xsl  therwisexsl:variable name="cAuthors" xsl:value-of select="count(msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:Source/b:Author/b:Main/b:NameList/b:Person)" / /xsl:variable xsl:for-each select="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:Source/b:Author/b:Main/b:NameList/b:Person" xsl:choose xsl:when test="position() 3 or (position() 1 and $cAuthors 3)" /xsl:when xsl:when test="position() = 1" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:choose xsl:when test="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:NonUniqueLastName" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationLong_FML"/ /xsl:when xsl therwisexsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_FML"/ /xsl therwise/xsl:choose /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:choose xsl:when test="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:NonUniqueLastName" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationLong_FM"/ /xsl:when xsl therwisexsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_FM"/ /xsl therwise/xsl:choose /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:choose xsl:when test="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:NonUniqueLastName" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationLong_ML"/ /xsl:when xsl therwisexsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_ML"/ /xsl therwise/xsl:choose /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:choose xsl:when test="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:NonUniqueLastName" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationLong_FL"/ /xsl:when xsl therwisexsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_FL"/ /xsl therwise/xsl:choose /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"no/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:when xsl:when test="position() 1" xsl:call-template name="formatNameCore" xsl:with-param name="FML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_FML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FM" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_FM"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="ML" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_ML"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="FL" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_CitationShort_FL"/ /xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="upperLast"no/xsl:with-param xsl:with-param name="withDot"no/xsl:with-param /xsl:call-template /xsl:when /xsl:choose xsl:choose xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" !--xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_ListSeparator"/-- xsl:text /xsl:text xsl:call-template name="templ_str_AndOthersUnCap"/ /xsl:when xsl:when test="position() 1 and $cAuthors 3" /xsl:when xsl:when test="($cAuthors - 1 = position() and ($cAuthors = 2))" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Space"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_BeforeLastAuthor"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Space"/ /xsl:when xsl:when test="($cAuthors - 1 = position() and ($cAuthors 2))" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_AuthorsSeparator"/ xsl:variable name="noAndBeforeLastAuthor" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_NoAndBeforeLastAuthor"/ /xsl:variable xsl:if test="$noAndBeforeLastAuthor != 'yes'" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_APA_BeforeLastAuthor"/ xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_Space"/ /xsl:if /xsl:when xsl:when test="$cAuthors position() and 3 position() " xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_AuthorsSeparator"/ /xsl:when /xsl:choose /xsl:for-each /xsl therwise/xsl:choose /xsl:variable Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Susan Koziel" wrote in message ... I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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On Sep 19, 11:22*pm, Susan Koziel
wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me *xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: *xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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Hi Peter & Yves,
I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles.  At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't
automatically appear around a citation. For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't automatically appear around a citation. For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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The best you can do is select the citation, choose Edit Citation from
the drop-down, check "Suppress Author" -- and type the author name outside the citation field, in the main text. Or, once your work is absolutely finalized, convert the citation(s) to plain text and move the parenthesis. On May 27, 9:29*pm, Jonny99 wrote: On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't automatically appear around a citation. *For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, * I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me *xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: *xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer |
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The best you can do is select the citation, choose Edit Citation from
the drop-down, check "Suppress Author" -- and type the author name outside the citation field, in the main text. Or, once your work is absolutely finalized, convert the citation(s) to plain text and move the parenthesis. On May 27, 9:29*pm, Jonny99 wrote: On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't automatically appear around a citation. *For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, * I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me *xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: *xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer |
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Patience is a virtue. You don't have to ask the same question multiple
times, just wait till someone comes along who can answer it. the following is copy/pasted from my original reply There is no on/off switch for the brackets. Your choices are to either keep them, or remove them altogether. If you want to remove them for all instances, you will have to edit the style by hand. The short version: http://bibword.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=FAQ (especially 6 and 8 are useful) The long version (in case you don't know XSL): The styles are located in the winword.exe\Bibliography\Style directory. Assuming a normal 32-bit OS with a default Office 2007 installation, that directory is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style The style you want to edit is located in APA.XSL. Create a copy of the file and name it MyAPA.XSL. Open the file with a text editor (notepad, ...) and look for the following lines: xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" xsl:textAPA/xsl:text /xsl:when and change it to xsl:when test="b:StyleName" xsl:textAPA without brackets/xsl:text /xsl:when Now when you start Word, there will be an extra style in the dropdown list, labeled "APA without brackets". Next you want to remove the brackets. Look for xsl:if test="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:FirstAuthor" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_OpenBracket"/ /xsl:if and remove it. This will remove the opening bracket. Then look for xsl:if test="/b:Citation/b:LastAuthor" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_CloseBracket"/ /xsl:if and remove it. This will remove the closing bracket. You should be all set now. Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Jonny99" wrote in message ... On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't automatically appear around a citation. For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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Patience is a virtue. You don't have to ask the same question multiple times, just wait till someone comes along who can answer it. the following is copy/pasted from my original reply There is no on/off switch for the brackets. Your choices are to either keep them, or remove them altogether. If you want to remove them for all instances, you will have to edit the style by hand. The short version: http://bibword.codeplex.com/wikipage?title=FAQ (especially 6 and 8 are useful) The long version (in case you don't know XSL): The styles are located in the winword.exe\Bibliography\Style directory. Assuming a normal 32-bit OS with a default Office 2007 installation, that directory is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office12\Bibliography\Style The style you want to edit is located in APA.XSL. Create a copy of the file and name it MyAPA.XSL. Open the file with a text editor (notepad, ...) and look for the following lines: xsl:when test="b:OfficeStyleKey" xsl:textAPA/xsl:text /xsl:when and change it to xsl:when test="b:StyleName" xsl:textAPA without brackets/xsl:text /xsl:when Now when you start Word, there will be an extra style in the dropdown list, labeled "APA without brackets". Next you want to remove the brackets. Look for xsl:if test="msxsl:node-set($ListPopulatedWithMain)/b:Citation/b:FirstAuthor" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_OpenBracket"/ /xsl:if and remove it. This will remove the opening bracket. Then look for xsl:if test="/b:Citation/b:LastAuthor" xsl:call-template name="templ_prop_CloseBracket"/ /xsl:if and remove it. This will remove the closing bracket. You should be all set now. Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Jonny99" wrote in message ... On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't automatically appear around a citation. For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer Thanks. -Sue |
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Or edit the style so there are never any brackets...
Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... The best you can do is select the citation, choose Edit Citation from the drop-down, check "Suppress Author" -- and type the author name outside the citation field, in the main text. Or, once your work is absolutely finalized, convert the citation(s) to plain text and move the parenthesis. On May 27, 9:29 pm, Jonny99 wrote: On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't automatically appear around a citation. For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer |
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Or edit the style so there are never any brackets...
Yves -- BibWord : Microsoft Word Citation and Bibliography styles http://bibword.codeplex.com "Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message ... The best you can do is select the citation, choose Edit Citation from the drop-down, check "Suppress Author" -- and type the author name outside the citation field, in the main text. Or, once your work is absolutely finalized, convert the citation(s) to plain text and move the parenthesis. On May 27, 9:29 pm, Jonny99 wrote: On a related note, how can I change the style sheet so that parantheses don't automatically appear around a citation. For example "Tomaskovic-Devey (1993) concluded..." should have the citation in paranthesis. "Susan Koziel" wrote: Hi Peter & Yves, I realize that it's Chicago style. The issue is that there seems to be a preference from the one reviewer to have the inline citations only listing 3 authors max and the year; but a different reviewer wants to have the bibliography in APA style. My situtation is that I must make the changes to get the signature from the reviewers then send it to an editor who will ask for specific and final formating changes. I expect to put everything back to a uniform style when all is done, but in the mean time I have to deal with some non-uniform ideas about citation styles. When your reviewers are scientists sometimes the style they think is correct is not the correct style they think it is. This is a rather frustrating situation, and hence why I'm asking for code so I can switch back easily. But in the mean time I'm stuck making small (ish) changes to the current styles. At least all the changes to my thesis that are required are messing with styles, and sentence structures. Thanks Yves for all your help I will try to switch the numbers I missed and see if it works. -Sue "Peter T. Daniels" wrote: On Sep 19, 11:22 pm, Susan Koziel wrote: I have another question on the same topic. Is there any way to alter the code to give me xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 3)" rather then the current APA setting of six: xsl:when test="(position() = 1 and $cAuthors 6)" Again I've had a reviewer request that I use et al anytime more then three authors are listed. That's Chicago style. You'd better check with your editor or publisher as to whether that's acceptable in APA style. I tried just altering the $cAuthors 3 that gives me (first authors et al second author third author....sixth author) not exactly what I need.... but closer |
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