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Question Word 2003: Customize default view Styles&Formatting "Show"?

(My very first Post,,,)

Styles and Formatting pane:

Word's default behaviour is not too clear, but when opening a new document - and certainly after restarting Word - "Custom" is the default in "Show".

However, it seems (but I haven't tested exhaustively) that when opening a new document, Word retains what's in "Show" from the last time it saved a document - though only for as long as the same Word session is active. As soon as you restart Word the default in "Show" reverts to "Custom".

Anyone know a way to make a forced change to the default? With VBA if necessary? In fact, I'd like to know how to specify the default behaviour using VBA - for another particular need.
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Default Word 2003: Customize default view Styles&Formatting "Show"?

To learn more about the Styles and Formatting pane, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styles/sfpane.html.

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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...


(My very first Post,,,)

Styles and Formatting pane:

Word's default behaviour is not too clear, but when opening a new
document - and certainly after restarting Word - "Custom" is the default
in "Show".

However, it seems (but I haven't tested exhaustively) that when opening
a new document, Word retains what's in "Show" from the last time it
saved a document - though only for as long as the same Word session is
active. As soon as you restart Word the default in "Show" reverts to
"Custom".

Anyone know a way to make a forced change to the default? With VBA if
necessary? In fact, I'd like to know how to specify the default
behaviour using VBA - for another particular need.




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Thankyou Stefan,

However, I had already read that before posting and it didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. Indeed, I researched the subject before posting (as anyone should).

ATB,

Jedumi

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Originally Posted by Stefan Blom[_3_] View Post
To learn more about the Styles and Formatting pane, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styles/sfpane.html.

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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...

Styles and Formatting pane:

Word's default behaviour is not too clear, but when opening a new
document - and certainly after restarting Word - "Custom" is the default
in "Show".

However, it seems (but I haven't tested exhaustively) that when opening
a new document, Word retains what's in "Show" from the last time it
saved a document - though only for as long as the same Word session is
active. As soon as you restart Word the default in "Show" reverts to
"Custom".

Anyone know a way to make a forced change to the default? With VBA if
necessary? In fact, I'd like to know how to specify the default
behaviour using VBA - for another particular need.
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Default Word 2003: Customize default view Styles&Formatting "Show"?

Hi,

"Jedumi" wrote
Styles and Formatting pane:
Anyone know a way to make a forced change to the default?

you can choose "Show | Custom", and then decide whether you want to see
category "All styles" for example. Then you have to enable "Save
settings in template". When you exit Word you will be asked, whether
changes in Normal.dot should be saved.
If you are using different templates repeat the steps for those
templates.

Regarding VBA and Styles pane, you will find some code he
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/macrosvba/...m#_Toc82745252

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Default Word 2003: Customize default view Styles&Formatting "Show"?

The article does explain how to control which styles display in the pane
(which is what you asked). If you want to do this in programming, see if the
link Lisa posted will be helpful.

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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...


Thankyou Stefan,

However, I had already read that before posting and it didn't tell me
anything I didn't already know. Indeed, I researched the subject before
posting (as anyone should).

ATB,

Jedumi

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:
;492027']To learn more about the Styles and Formatting pane, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styles/sfpane.html.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...

Styles and Formatting pane:

Word's default behaviour is not too clear, but when opening a new
document - and certainly after restarting Word - "Custom" is the
default
in "Show".

However, it seems (but I haven't tested exhaustively) that when opening
a new document, Word retains what's in "Show" from the last time it
saved a document - though only for as long as the same Word session is
active. As soon as you restart Word the default in "Show" reverts to
"Custom".

Anyone know a way to make a forced change to the default? With VBA if
necessary? In fact, I'd like to know how to specify the default
behaviour using VBA - for another particular need.
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@ Lisa
Thanks, a quick look suggests that it provides an answer; but will study later.

@ Stefan
I don't want to get into an argument, Stefan, because you were kind enough to reply; but I had not asked (as you thought) how to display different styles - that's easy. I asked (clearly, I thought) how to set ("make a forced change" to) what is displayed by default. If I hadn't already seen that article, I would have been even more grateful for your reply. Thank you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan Blom[_3_] View Post
The article does explain how to control which styles display in the pane (which is what you asked). If you want to do this in programming, see if the link Lisa posted will be helpful.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...


Thankyou Stefan,

However, I had already read that before posting and it didn't tell me
anything I didn't already know. Indeed, I researched the subject before
posting (as anyone should).

ATB,

Jedumi

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:
;492027']To learn more about the Styles and Formatting pane, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styles/sfpane.html.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...

Styles and Formatting pane:

Word's default behaviour is not too clear, but when opening a new
document - and certainly after restarting Word - "Custom" is the
default
in "Show".

However, it seems (but I haven't tested exhaustively) that when opening
a new document, Word retains what's in "Show" from the last time it
saved a document - though only for as long as the same Word session is
active. As soon as you restart Word the default in "Show" reverts to
"Custom".

Anyone know a way to make a forced change to the default? With VBA if
necessary? In fact, I'd like to know how to specify the default
behaviour using VBA - for another particular need.
--
Jedumi





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Default Word 2003: Customize default view Styles&Formatting "Show"?

I asked (clearly, I thought) how to set ("make a forced change" to) what
is displayed by default.


Are you saying that selecting "Save settings in template" (briefly mentioned
in the article) doesn't work for you?

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Microsoft Word MVP




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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...


@ Lisa
Thanks, a quick look suggests that it provides an answer; but will study
later.

@ Stefan
I don't want to get into an argument, Stefan, because you were kind
enough to reply; but I had not asked (as you thought) how to display
different styles - that's easy. I asked (clearly, I thought) how to set
("make a forced change" to) what is displayed by default. If I hadn't
already seen that article, I would have been even more grateful for your
reply. Thank you.
'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:
;492036']The article does explain how to control which styles display in
the pane (which is what you asked). If you want to do this in
programming, see if the link Lisa posted will be helpful.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...


Thankyou Stefan,

However, I had already read that before posting and it didn't tell me
anything I didn't already know. Indeed, I researched the subject
before
posting (as anyone should).

ATB,

Jedumi

'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:-
;492027']To learn more about the Styles and Formatting pane, see
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styles/sfpane.html.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP
---------------------------------------------
"Jedumi" wrote in message ...

Styles and Formatting pane:

Word's default behaviour is not too clear, but when opening a new
document - and certainly after restarting Word - "Custom" is the
default
in "Show".

However, it seems (but I haven't tested exhaustively) that when
opening
a new document, Word retains what's in "Show" from the last time it
saved a document - though only for as long as the same Word session is
active. As soon as you restart Word the default in "Show" reverts to
"Custom".

Anyone know a way to make a forced change to the default? With VBA if
necessary? In fact, I'd like to know how to specify the default
behaviour using VBA - for another particular need.
--
Jedumi-




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[quote='Stefan Blom[_3_];492048'] I asked (clearly, I thought) how to set ("make a forced change" to) what
is displayed by default.


Are you saying that selecting "Save settings in template" (briefly mentioned
in the article) doesn't work for you?
/QUOTE]

I've been busy with a project, will reply ASAP.
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For clarity:

We can 'Show' only specified styles on all future documents on our own machines - simply by following the standard steps to save in Normal.dot (as Stefan mentions).

What we're trying to do is create code that will amend the Normal.dot on the machine of someone else (who is not computer savvy) to - by default - show specific styles only in their new documents. (We could send them a self-extracting utility to place their Normal.dot with a custom Normal.dot in the required directory, but we don't want to do this in case it wipes away anything they may have themselves saved in Normal.dot.)

("not computer savvy" meaning: they can't even follow instructions to select to show specified styles only; but we also mean that we'd like to automate it for their convenience - especially as we're talking about selecting at least a dozen specific styles and making sure that only these are visible.)

Recording the process doesn't provide any useful statements.

In any case, the above will always show 'Custom', whereas we want it to show 'Available Styles'.


Here's something from another forum:

Thanks for the info, but the solutions only work for the Custom view! Seems there is a VBA bug or even a main Word bug.

See the site:

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1212007

Where the bottom line seems to be:

******************

There IS the following:

wdShowFilterStylesAvailable

it is part of the wdShowFilter class. Others a

wdShowFilterFormattingAvailable
wdShowFilterStylesInUse

So they are there. There must be a way to do something with them.

... I am trying hard to make VBA DO something with it. So far, no luck. I can get a Variant to [b]be[\b] wdShowFilterStylesAvailable. Great. That's nice. I still have not found a method or a property that will accept it.

There is Document.FormattingShowFilter but I can't make it do anything at the moment.

As far as I can tell the Document filter properties don't appear to work - it wouldn't be the first time!
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Default Word 2003: Customize default view Styles&Formatting "Show"?

To hide styles you'd need code such as the following:

ActiveDocument.Styles("Heading 1") _
..Visibility = True 'yes, the property should be true

Note that the Visibility property should be set to True when you want to
hide (!) the style.

This is exemplified in an article that deals with table styles (not
supported in Word 2003, if I remember correctly), but the principle is the
same for all styles. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...s-in-word.html.

To force these settings on each user you would have to open their Normal
template as a document, run the macro, save Normal and close.

-- 
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Microsoft Word MVP




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"Jedumi" wrote in message ...


For clarity:

We can 'Show' only specified styles on all future documents on our own
machines - simply by following the standard steps to save in Normal.dot
(as Stefan mentions).

What we're trying to do is create code that will amend the Normal.dot on
the machine of someone else (who is not computer savvy) to - by default
- show specific styles only in their new documents. (We could send them
a self-extracting utility to place their Normal.dot with a custom
Normal.dot in the required directory, but we don't want to do this in
case it wipes away anything they may have themselves saved in
Normal.dot.)

("not computer savvy" meaning: they can't even follow instructions to
select to show specified styles only; but we also mean that we'd like to
automate it for their convenience - especially as we're talking about
selecting at least a dozen specific styles and making sure that only
these are visible.)

Recording the process doesn't provide any useful statements.

In any case, the above will always show 'Custom', whereas we want it to
show 'Available Styles'.


Here's something from another forum:

Thanks for the info, but the solutions only work for the Custom view!
Seems there is a VBA bug or even a main Word bug.

See the site:

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1212007

Where the bottom line seems to be:

******************

There IS the following:

wdShowFilterStylesAvailable

it is part of the wdShowFilter class. Others a

wdShowFilterFormattingAvailable
wdShowFilterStylesInUse

So they are there. There must be a way to do something with them.

... I am trying hard to make VBA DO something with it. So far, no luck.
I can get a Variant to [b]be[\b] wdShowFilterStylesAvailable. Great.
That's nice. I still have not found a method or a property that will
accept it.

There is Document.FormattingShowFilter but I can't make it do anything
at the moment.

As far as I can tell the Document filter properties don't appear to work
- it wouldn't be the first time!




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Default Word 2003: Customize default view Styles&Formatting "Show"?

Of course, if users choose not to allow macros, there isn't much you can do.

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"Stefan Blom" wrote in message ...

To hide styles you'd need code such as the following:

ActiveDocument.Styles("Heading 1") _
..Visibility = True 'yes, the property should be true

Note that the Visibility property should be set to True when you want to
hide (!) the style.

This is exemplified in an article that deals with table styles (not
supported in Word 2003, if I remember correctly), but the principle is the
same for all styles. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...s-in-word.html.

To force these settings on each user you would have to open their Normal
template as a document, run the macro, save Normal and close.

-- 
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




---------------------------------------------
"Jedumi" wrote in message ...


For clarity:

We can 'Show' only specified styles on all future documents on our own
machines - simply by following the standard steps to save in Normal.dot
(as Stefan mentions).

What we're trying to do is create code that will amend the Normal.dot on
the machine of someone else (who is not computer savvy) to - by default
- show specific styles only in their new documents. (We could send them
a self-extracting utility to place their Normal.dot with a custom
Normal.dot in the required directory, but we don't want to do this in
case it wipes away anything they may have themselves saved in
Normal.dot.)

("not computer savvy" meaning: they can't even follow instructions to
select to show specified styles only; but we also mean that we'd like to
automate it for their convenience - especially as we're talking about
selecting at least a dozen specific styles and making sure that only
these are visible.)

Recording the process doesn't provide any useful statements.

In any case, the above will always show 'Custom', whereas we want it to
show 'Available Styles'.


Here's something from another forum:

Thanks for the info, but the solutions only work for the Custom view!
Seems there is a VBA bug or even a main Word bug.

See the site:

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1212007

Where the bottom line seems to be:

******************

There IS the following:

wdShowFilterStylesAvailable

it is part of the wdShowFilter class. Others a

wdShowFilterFormattingAvailable
wdShowFilterStylesInUse

So they are there. There must be a way to do something with them.

... I am trying hard to make VBA DO something with it. So far, no luck.
I can get a Variant to [b]be[\b] wdShowFilterStylesAvailable. Great.
That's nice. I still have not found a method or a property that will
accept it.

There is Document.FormattingShowFilter but I can't make it do anything
at the moment.

As far as I can tell the Document filter properties don't appear to work
- it wouldn't be the first time!




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Jedumi



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