[FrankL]

Hi,

I am using a german version of Office 2010, writing english documents.

I want to insert a REFerence that automatically expands to "above" or "below".

Problem: it always prints out a german version "oben" or "unterhalb".

I tried to change the language of the field itself (Alt-F9) as well as the result.
More weird: it prints different _german_ versions of "unterhalb" when using different _english_ language flavours:

German:
"unterhalb" / "oben"

English (Großbritannien, i.e. UK):
"unterhalb" / "oben"

English (US):
"unten" / "oben"


I have already read some threads here. The thread "PAGEREF \p Switch in DE, SV, SK, and PL" (http://www.wordbanter.com/showthread.php?p=425643) seems to be most related. But it looks like nobody there has had any problems changing the language for their PAGEREF-Tests...


What can I do?

Best Regards
Frank

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

If you also add the \* CHARFORMAT switch to the PAGEREF field, before
formatting the field in English, does that help?

Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP





On 2012-07-16 10:58, FrankL wrote:
Hi,

I am using a german version of Office 2010, writing english documents.

I want to insert a REFerence that automatically expands to "above" or
"below".

Problem: it always prints out a german version "oben" or "unterhalb".

I tried to change the language of the field itself (Alt-F9) as well as
the result.
More weird: it prints different _german_ versions of "unterhalb" when
using different _english_ language flavours:

German:
"unterhalb" / "oben"

English (Großbritannien, i.e. UK):
"unterhalb" / "oben"

English (US):
"unten" / "oben"


I have already read some threads here. The thread "PAGEREF \p Switch in
DE, SV, SK, and PL" (http://www.wordbanter.com/showthread.php?p=425643)
seems to be most related. But it looks like nobody there has had any
problems changing the language for their PAGEREF-Tests...


What can I do?

Best Regards
Frank

[FrankL]

Originally Posted by Stefan Blom[_3_]

If you also add the \* CHARFORMAT switch to the PAGEREF field, before
formatting the field in English, does that help?

No, unfortunately not.
I verified that CHARFORMAT is effective by also applying some character formatting to the "R" character of REF. Style is correctly used, but language does not change.

I have also tried exchanging REF by PAGEREF - same behaviour.

Finally I have even changed system language settings, default location, keyboard layout, number format etc. to English(US) - no change to the REF field.

It also happened that field expansion was slightly instable: the result changed between first and second update ("F9") between "unterhalb" and "unten", then stayed stable. But I don't know how to exactly reproduce this.


For me it feels like a bug in Word, but maybe I have missed something else?


A workaround would be a nested field like
{ IF { REF ...}="unte*" "below" "above" }
or for PAGEREF
{ IF { PAGEREF ...}="unte*" "below" { IF { PAGEREF ... }="oben" "above" "on page {PAGEREF without \p...}" } }
and place a HYPERLINK on the result (Ctrl-K) as required.
... but this tends to be too complicated for everyday use


Regards - Frank

[Stefan Blom[_3_]]

It does sound like a bug, yes. I haven't seen a Knowledge Base article
on the subject, though. :-(

Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP





On 2012-07-17 09:31, FrankL wrote:
'Stefan Blom[_3_ Wrote:
;492842']If you also add the \* CHARFORMAT switch to the PAGEREF field,
before
formatting the field in English, does that help?


No, unfortunately not.
I verified that CHARFORMAT is effective by also applying some character
formatting to the "R" character of REF. Style is correctly used, but
language does not change.

I have also tried exchanging REF by PAGEREF - same behaviour.

Finally I have even changed system language settings, default location,
keyboard layout, number format etc. to English(US) - no change to the
REF field.

It also happened that field expansion was slightly instable: the result
changed between first and second update ("F9") between "unterhalb" and
"unten", then stayed stable. But I don't know how to exactly reproduce
this.


For me it feels like a bug in Word, but maybe I have missed something
else?


A workaround would be a nested field like
{ IF { REF ...}="unte*" "below" "above" }
or for PAGEREF
{ IF { PAGEREF ...}="unte*" "below" { IF { PAGEREF ... }="oben" "above"
"on page {PAGEREF *without \p*...}" } }
and place a HYPERLINK on the result (Ctrl-K) as required.
.. but this tends to be too complicated for everyday use


Regards - Frank