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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In
the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly
odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file
over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you
should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
Suzanne,
Please clarify why it's "worrying." I've set it to show formatting marks and it's showing the Euro symbol instead of the paragraph marker in tables that are formatting with Belizio-Regular 9.5 font. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
It might be worrying because it suggests that something is messed up, or at
least the possibilty that some characters might not be what you expect them to be. However, if I apply the Benguiat Bk BT font to a table (for example), it also displays the table paragraph markers as Euros. To me, this suggests only that whoever conjured the Benguiat Bk BT font wasn't coordinating their efforts with Microsoft. If everything prints okay, then don't worry. But, if you use any characters outside the normal array of letters, punctuation, and numbers, check carefully to make sure that everything is displayed the way it should be for printing purposes. As to Euros for table markers, I guess that such tables must be more expensive than the normal kind. :-) Or, maybe it's assumed that the tables are located in European casinos, in which case Euros for table markers might be expected. The thought of having to pay a Euro for each cell in every table I create would indeed be cause for worry... all seriousness aside. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... Suzanne, Please clarify why it's "worrying." I've set it to show formatting marks and it's showing the Euro symbol instead of the paragraph marker in tables that are formatting with Belizio-Regular 9.5 font. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
What I was saying was in response to your statement that "I applied Times
New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely." If you had nonprinting characters displayed and weren't seeing *any* paragraph mark (¶ or euro), then I would be concerned. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... Suzanne, Please clarify why it's "worrying." I've set it to show formatting marks and it's showing the Euro symbol instead of the paragraph marker in tables that are formatting with Belizio-Regular 9.5 font. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
Herb, Thanks for confirming that euros were used for paragraph markers in
other fonts. It must be the unusual font I'm using. You started my day off with a smile and day-dreaming about European casinos. Very nice! Thanks! "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: It might be worrying because it suggests that something is messed up, or at least the possibilty that some characters might not be what you expect them to be. However, if I apply the Benguiat Bk BT font to a table (for example), it also displays the table paragraph markers as Euros. To me, this suggests only that whoever conjured the Benguiat Bk BT font wasn't coordinating their efforts with Microsoft. If everything prints okay, then don't worry. But, if you use any characters outside the normal array of letters, punctuation, and numbers, check carefully to make sure that everything is displayed the way it should be for printing purposes. As to Euros for table markers, I guess that such tables must be more expensive than the normal kind. :-) Or, maybe it's assumed that the tables are located in European casinos, in which case Euros for table markers might be expected. The thought of having to pay a Euro for each cell in every table I create would indeed be cause for worry... all seriousness aside. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... Suzanne, Please clarify why it's "worrying." I've set it to show formatting marks and it's showing the Euro symbol instead of the paragraph marker in tables that are formatting with Belizio-Regular 9.5 font. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
Yes... that would be worrisome. If there are fonts in which the pilcrow
displays as a space, that would make such a problem hard to track down. But, such shouldn't be the case with Times New Roman. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... What I was saying was in response to your statement that "I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely." If you had nonprinting characters displayed and weren't seeing *any* paragraph mark (¶ or euro), then I would be concerned. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... Suzanne, Please clarify why it's "worrying." I've set it to show formatting marks and it's showing the Euro symbol instead of the paragraph marker in tables that are formatting with Belizio-Regular 9.5 font. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Since the paragraphs were in tables, after changing to Times New Roman for
the paragraph marker, I'm seeing the square box used to denote end of table text rather than any paragraph marker. Previously, I saw the euro symbol; now I see the square box. So I think I'm fine. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: Yes... that would be worrisome. If there are fonts in which the pilcrow displays as a space, that would make such a problem hard to track down. But, such shouldn't be the case with Times New Roman. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... What I was saying was in response to your statement that "I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely." If you had nonprinting characters displayed and weren't seeing *any* paragraph mark (¶ or euro), then I would be concerned. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... Suzanne, Please clarify why it's "worrying." I've set it to show formatting marks and it's showing the Euro symbol instead of the paragraph marker in tables that are formatting with Belizio-Regular 9.5 font. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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Paragraph symbol that looks like Euro symbol?
Ah, yes, the "universal monetary symbol." If you look at it under
magnification, you'll see it's actually a circle with "ears." It's used for both an end-of-cell marker and an end-of-row marker; see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/NonPrintChars.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... Since the paragraphs were in tables, after changing to Times New Roman for the paragraph marker, I'm seeing the square box used to denote end of table text rather than any paragraph marker. Previously, I saw the euro symbol; now I see the square box. So I think I'm fine. "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: Yes... that would be worrisome. If there are fonts in which the pilcrow displays as a space, that would make such a problem hard to track down. But, such shouldn't be the case with Times New Roman. -- Herb Tyson MS MVP http://www.herbtyson.com Please respond in the newsgroups so everyone can follow along. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message ... What I was saying was in response to your statement that "I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely." If you had nonprinting characters displayed and weren't seeing *any* paragraph mark (¶ or euro), then I would be concerned. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... Suzanne, Please clarify why it's "worrying." I've set it to show formatting marks and it's showing the Euro symbol instead of the paragraph marker in tables that are formatting with Belizio-Regular 9.5 font. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: That's a bit worrying; if you have nonprinting characters displayed, you should see the paragraph mark as ¶. If they're not displayed, of course, you won't see them looking like a euro or anything else. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message news Thanks, Suzanne! It looked a bit strange and I didn't want to turn the file over to the client this way, so I applied Times New Roman and the paragraph marker went away entirely. Appreciate your help! "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Every font has its own rendition of the paragraph mark. Some are decidedly odd-looking. Provided it represents an Enter, the way it is rendered won't make any difference. If you apply Times New Roman to just the paragraph mark and it looks normal, then don't worry about it. The paragraph marks don't print, so they shouldn't affect a PDF in any way. If you want to use the paragraph mark character as a character and want one that looks more traditional, then format it with a different font. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Bothell writer" wrote in message ... I'm working with a WORD 2003 manual that was converted from FrameMaker. In the tables (and only in tables), the paragraph marker looks like a Euro symbol. I'm using Belizio font as my Normal font. I haven't been able to change this Euro paragraph marker to the usual paragraph marker. Will this Euro paragraph marker cause any problems down the road? The file will be PDF'ed. If so, how do I change it? |
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