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I have a number of documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to
print these in booklet form.

For example:
An 8 page word document
The booklet would be printed in landscape mode
The 1st sheet would have page 1 & 8 on one side and page 2 & 7 on the
other. The 2nd sheet would have page 3 & 6 on one side and page 4 & 5
on the other.

I am looking for an addin to enable Word 2007 to print in this manner.
Alternatively (2nd choice), I would like a separate application that
would do this.

Can anyone offer any ideas?

David
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http://bookletcreator.com/

Save the file as a .pdf. Upload it to this site and it will do the work for
you. Print the resulting .pdf file.

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"David" wrote in message ...
I have a number of documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to
print these in booklet form.

For example:
An 8 page word document
The booklet would be printed in landscape mode
The 1st sheet would have page 1 & 8 on one side and page 2 & 7 on the
other. The 2nd sheet would have page 3 & 6 on one side and page 4 & 5
on the other.

I am looking for an addin to enable Word 2007 to print in this manner.
Alternatively (2nd choice), I would like a separate application that
would do this.

Can anyone offer any ideas?

David


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How do you feel about pdf's? If you can generate a pdf, you can open
it in Adobe Reader, and from Adobe Reader 8 or 9 (I don't know about 7
or earlier), you can print it as a booklet.

On Sep 20, 11:29*am, David wrote:
I have a number of documents I have in Word 2007. *I would like to
print these in booklet form.

For example:
An 8 page word document
The booklet would be printed in landscape mode
The 1st sheet would have page 1 & 8 on one side and page 2 & 7 on the
other. *The 2nd sheet would have page 3 & 6 on one side and page 4 & 5
on the other.

I am looking for an addin to enable Word 2007 to print in this manner.
Alternatively (2nd choice), I would like a separate application that
would do this.

Can anyone offer any ideas?

David


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Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages." Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the order
required for folding into a booklet.

This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method will
work in any version.

You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the "Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

David wrote in message ...
I have a number of documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to
print these in booklet form.

For example:
An 8 page word document
The booklet would be printed in landscape mode
The 1st sheet would have page 1 & 8 on one side and page 2 & 7 on the
other. The 2nd sheet would have page 3 & 6 on one side and page 4 & 5
on the other.

I am looking for an addin to enable Word 2007 to print in this manner.
Alternatively (2nd choice), I would like a separate application that
would do this.

Can anyone offer any ideas?

David



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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages." Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the order
required for folding into a booklet.

This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method will
work in any version.

You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the "Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:

The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.

However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.

Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.

Thanks again

David


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Sounds like doing it through Reader is more flexible. You can print
any or all of the generated two-page sides.

On Sep 20, 7:32*pm, David wrote:
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"

wrote:
Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages." Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the "Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:

The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. *The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.

However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? *The test print I ran printed every page. *I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.

Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. *Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.

Thanks again

David-

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I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.

As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from what
you would use for a full-sized page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

David wrote in message ...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages." Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the order
required for folding into a booklet.

This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method will
work in any version.

You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:

The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.

However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.

Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.

Thanks again

David



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Reduce the margins and increase the type size.

On Sep 20, 11:47*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.

As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from what
you would use for a full-sized page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



David wrote in messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com....
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages." Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. *The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? *The test print I ran printed every page. *I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. *Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.

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Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for either a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a printed 7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
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Reduce the margins and increase the type size.

On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.

As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from what
you would use for a full-sized page.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA



David wrote in messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages." Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.



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When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!

Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?

On Sep 21, 9:11*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for either a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a printed 7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.

"grammatim" wrote in message

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Reduce the margins and increase the type size.

On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com....
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages." Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.-



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I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably) the
font size.

Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create two
small pages from one full-sized one.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!

Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?

On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.

On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.-



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Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)

On Sep 21, 4:01*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably) the
font size.

Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create two
small pages from one full-sized one.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!

Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?

On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5 in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.--

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It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)

On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably)
the
font size.

Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!

Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?

On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.--



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Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."

On Sep 21, 6:34*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)

On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple pages.."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.---

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I think that still leaves an open question about whether or not the OP wants
to reduce them.

--
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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."

On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)

On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.---





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Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or, to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).

But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."

On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)

On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.---



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I wouldn't be enlarging the text in the reduced version, because the
reduced version isn't created until the moment of printing (when
Reader and HP conspire to turn the pdf into a booklet). So I would
format my document with, say, 14 or 16 pt type (Times or something
similar) so it's ok when reduced (the figure 78% keeps swimming into
my consciousness, but that might not be the operative number.)

"2 pages per sheet" doesn't give you a booklet layout with 4-1, 2-3,
but rather 1-2, 3-4.

On Sep 22, 10:58*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or, to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).

But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. *I would like to print these in booklet
form."

On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.----

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But "2 pages per sheet" is not the same as "Book fold." When you use "Book
fold," it does order the pages correctly (not on the screen but when
printing).

If you're already formatting your book to be reduced, how much easier would
it be to format it so that you can actually see what it's going to look like
when you print it instead of having to guess?

I'm not trying to change your mind, just to address your ongoing
misunderstanding of how "Book fold" works. You can use it to create either
complete booklets or separate signatures.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't be enlarging the text in the reduced version, because the
reduced version isn't created until the moment of printing (when
Reader and HP conspire to turn the pdf into a booklet). So I would
format my document with, say, 14 or 16 pt type (Times or something
similar) so it's ok when reduced (the figure 78% keeps swimming into
my consciousness, but that might not be the operative number.)

"2 pages per sheet" doesn't give you a booklet layout with 4-1, 2-3,
but rather 1-2, 3-4.

On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).

But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."

On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to
reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in
the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3,
4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back
side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste
of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.----



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Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."

However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.

The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.

It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.

On Sep 22, 10:58*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or, to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).

But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. *I would like to print these in booklet
form."

On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and (probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word? On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.----

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See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...lyIndented.htm for a
likely explanation of your indention.

Not knowing how complex your document is, I don't know why it might still be
spooling. I assume you did take care to assure that the number of pages in
the booklet was a multiple of 4?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."

However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.

The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.

It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.

On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).

But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."

On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to
reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in
the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3,
4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back
side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste
of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.----





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It happened to come out to 36 pages. But if it had come out to 33
pages, would Word really not have been able to figure out it needed to
add three blank sides at the end? Reader has no problem with that.

It must be a printer thing, because on the All-in-One it printed
immediately.

On Sep 22, 9:17*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Seehttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UnaccountablyIndented.htmfor a
likely explanation of your indention.


No, because the header containing the page number is still there (and
is set to the proper right margin).

If it were FrameMaker, I would go to the Master page and delete the
extra text frame that might have somehow gotten in during a
reformatting. But we don't have Master pages.

Not knowing how complex your document is, I don't know why it might still be
spooling. I assume you did take care to assure that the number of pages in
the booklet was a multiple of 4?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."

However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.

The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.

It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.

On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).


But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."


On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size, with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to
reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in
the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order, and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3,
4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back
side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste
of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.-----

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Whether Word "figures it out" or not depends on the settings. If you choose
the default "All" for the number of pages, it's up to you to make sure you
have a correct number.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
It happened to come out to 36 pages. But if it had come out to 33
pages, would Word really not have been able to figure out it needed to
add three blank sides at the end? Reader has no problem with that.

It must be a printer thing, because on the All-in-One it printed
immediately.

On Sep 22, 9:17 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Seehttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UnaccountablyIndented.htmfor a
likely explanation of your indention.


No, because the header containing the page number is still there (and
is set to the proper right margin).

If it were FrameMaker, I would go to the Master page and delete the
extra text frame that might have somehow gotten in during a
reformatting. But we don't have Master pages.

Not knowing how complex your document is, I don't know why it might still
be
spooling. I assume you did take care to assure that the number of pages in
the booklet was a multiple of 4?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."

However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.

The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.

It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.

On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a
full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you
say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).


But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll
already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."


On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size,
with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller
type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just
keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side
of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet,
keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into
Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing
the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to
reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in
the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order,
and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3,
4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.


However, how can I force Word to just print the front or back
side
of
the document? The test print I ran printed every page. I quess
I
could feed the pages into my copier, but that would be a waste
of
paper.


Also, in Page Setup, I was asked about Sheets per booklet. Do
I
want
"Auto", "All", or one of the numerical choices.-----



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I don't expect to be trying it again, especially if it's going to
cause the first line of every page to be indented 1/8" from the right
margin. That's completely unacceptable and apparently uncorrectable.

On Sep 23, 9:47*am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Whether Word "figures it out" or not depends on the settings. If you choose
the default "All" for the number of pages, it's up to you to make sure you
have a correct number.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
It happened to come out to 36 pages. But if it had come out to 33
pages, would Word really not have been able to figure out it needed to
add three blank sides at the end? Reader has no problem with that.

It must be a printer thing, because on the All-in-One it printed
immediately.

On Sep 22, 9:17 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Seehttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UnaccountablyIndented.htmfora
likely explanation of your indention.


No, because the header containing the page number is still there (and
is set to the proper right margin).

If it were FrameMaker, I would go to the Master page and delete the
extra text frame that might have somehow gotten in during a
reformatting. But we don't have Master pages.



Not knowing how complex your document is, I don't know why it might still
be
spooling. I assume you did take care to assure that the number of pages in
the booklet was a multiple of 4?


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."


However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.


The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.


It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.


On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a
full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size, or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you
say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).


But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll
already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."


On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets. When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold," Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size,
with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet, you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller
type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just
keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side
of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet,
keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into
Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing
the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to
reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm. This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet" in
the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order,
and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6, 3,
4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold" feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable..

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Well, it wouldn't be doing that if you didn't have a wandering page number
frame as explained in the article I referenced.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
I don't expect to be trying it again, especially if it's going to
cause the first line of every page to be indented 1/8" from the right
margin. That's completely unacceptable and apparently uncorrectable.

On Sep 23, 9:47 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Whether Word "figures it out" or not depends on the settings. If you
choose
the default "All" for the number of pages, it's up to you to make sure you
have a correct number.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
It happened to come out to 36 pages. But if it had come out to 33
pages, would Word really not have been able to figure out it needed to
add three blank sides at the end? Reader has no problem with that.

It must be a printer thing, because on the All-in-One it printed
immediately.

On Sep 22, 9:17 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Seehttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UnaccountablyIndented.htmfora
likely explanation of your indention.


No, because the header containing the page number is still there (and
is set to the proper right margin).

If it were FrameMaker, I would go to the Master page and delete the
extra text frame that might have somehow gotten in during a
reformatting. But we don't have Master pages.



Not knowing how complex your document is, I don't know why it might
still
be
spooling. I assume you did take care to assure that the number of pages
in
the booklet was a multiple of 4?


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."


However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.


The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.


It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.


On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to
address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems
there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a
full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size,
or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you
say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).


But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll
already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."


On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can
use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but
the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way
I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working
in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite
a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two
guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets.
When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold,"
Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created
the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size,
with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet,
you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to
be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller
type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay
for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just
keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a
printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one
side
of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with
Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet,
keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type
size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into
Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them
in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.


This feature works reasonably well provided you are printing
the
entire
booklet. Most users report disappointing results trying to
reprint
specific
pages. For another approach, see
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...etPrinting.htm.
This
method
will
work in any version.


You can also set this up manually using "2 pages per sheet"
in
the
"Multiple
pages" dropdown. This will create pages in numerical order,
and
you
can
print them in the required order by entering 8, 1, 2, 7, 6,
3,
4,
5
in
the
"Pages" box in the Print dialog. There is also a macro at
the
above-referenced site that automates this process.


Suzanne:


The method you described using Word 2007's "Book Fold"
feature
works
well. The number of pages increases, but that was good as
Word
apparently adjusted to make the printed copy quite readable.



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May I send you the file, so you can hunt for the supposed wandering
page number frame? (You might find the chapter interesting, too.)

On Sep 23, 1:00*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Well, it wouldn't be doing that if you didn't have a wandering page number
frame as explained in the article I referenced.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
I don't expect to be trying it again, especially if it's going to
cause the first line of every page to be indented 1/8" from the right
margin. That's completely unacceptable and apparently uncorrectable.

On Sep 23, 9:47 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Whether Word "figures it out" or not depends on the settings. If you
choose
the default "All" for the number of pages, it's up to you to make sure you
have a correct number.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
It happened to come out to 36 pages. But if it had come out to 33
pages, would Word really not have been able to figure out it needed to
add three blank sides at the end? Reader has no problem with that.


It must be a printer thing, because on the All-in-One it printed
immediately.


On Sep 22, 9:17 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Seehttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UnaccountablyIndented.htmfora
likely explanation of your indention.


No, because the header containing the page number is still there (and
is set to the proper right margin).


If it were FrameMaker, I would go to the Master page and delete the
extra text frame that might have somehow gotten in during a
reformatting. But we don't have Master pages.


Not knowing how complex your document is, I don't know why it might
still
be
spooling. I assume you did take care to assure that the number of pages
in
the booklet was a multiple of 4?


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


....
Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."


However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.


The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.


It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.


On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to
address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems
there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a
full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size,
or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which you
say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).


But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll
already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in booklet
form."


On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can
use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but
the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the way
I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're working
in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed quite
a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two
guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets.
When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold,"
Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created
the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same size,
with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet,
you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to
be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller
type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay
for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just
keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a
printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one
side
of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with
Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet,
keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type
size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into
Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for "Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print them
in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.



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Sure, send it along.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
May I send you the file, so you can hunt for the supposed wandering
page number frame? (You might find the chapter interesting, too.)

On Sep 23, 1:00 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Well, it wouldn't be doing that if you didn't have a wandering page number
frame as explained in the article I referenced.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
I don't expect to be trying it again, especially if it's going to
cause the first line of every page to be indented 1/8" from the right
margin. That's completely unacceptable and apparently uncorrectable.

On Sep 23, 9:47 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Whether Word "figures it out" or not depends on the settings. If you
choose
the default "All" for the number of pages, it's up to you to make sure
you
have a correct number.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
It happened to come out to 36 pages. But if it had come out to 33
pages, would Word really not have been able to figure out it needed to
add three blank sides at the end? Reader has no problem with that.


It must be a printer thing, because on the All-in-One it printed
immediately.


On Sep 22, 9:17 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Seehttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/UnaccountablyIndented.htmfora
likely explanation of your indention.


No, because the header containing the page number is still there (and
is set to the proper right margin).


If it were FrameMaker, I would go to the Master page and delete the
extra text frame that might have somehow gotten in during a
reformatting. But we don't have Master pages.


Not knowing how complex your document is, I don't know why it might
still
be
spooling. I assume you did take care to assure that the number of
pages
in
the booklet was a multiple of 4?


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ok, so I invoked Book Fold on an article that just came back
copyedited from the editors. The formatting seems to have gone ok --
but after 6 minutes after clicking Print, it's still "spooling."


However, a very strange thing has happened. The file was Word2003
(because it was written almost two years ago), so I saved it as
Word2007. And the first text line of every page is indented from the
right margin by 1/8". Since Text Outlines are showing, I can see that
there is an outline around the four sides of that first line. The line
ends with a space, so it's not a separate paragraph or line break. The
indentation is not recognized in the horizontal ruler; there is no
margin or paragraph indent to change.


The lines will presumably not print (they don't appear in Print
Preview), but the first line of every page is indented from the right
margin.


It's now 10 min. since it was sent to the printer, and nothing is
happening.


On Sep 22, 10:58 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:


Well, just to clarify, my responses above have been intended to
address
your
misunderstanding of how the "Book fold" option works. But it seems
there
are
really only two choices for making a half-sheet booklet out of a
full-size
existing "book": you can either reflow the text at its current size,
or,
to
preserve the page layout, you can reduce everything on the page (for
example, by using "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog), which
you
say
makes it unreadable (very likely true).


But if you increase the text size in the reduced version (as you
suggested),
doesn't that also change the existing page layout? Note that in this
scenario it's not necessary to reduce the margins because they'll
already
have been reduced proportionally as part of the shrinking process.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Nope -- see the initial query in this thread: "I have a number of
documents I have in Word 2007. I would like to print these in
booklet
form."


On Sep 21, 6:34 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


It does depend on what you're trying to do, of course, and you can
use
the
"Zoom to print" setting in Word for what you're trying to do, but
the
questions here are about creating a booklet from scratch.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Ugh, that's awful! When I've made a page, I've made it look the
way
I
want it! If it gets "reflowed," it can't possibly be for the
better!
Preumably if you choose "Book Fold" before starting, you're
working
in
the miniature format from the start, so WYSIWYG. But that won't be
useful for someone who wants to print an existing multipage
document
as a booklet. For them, Reader is the way to go. (I've printed
quite
a
few google books as 32-page-signature sets of booklets, and two
guides
for giant fonts of ancient characters as single 84-page booklets.
When
I discovered this booklet printing capability last year, I bought
a
long-reach stapler that puts staples right on the fold.)


On Sep 21, 4:01 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


I take it you have not tried this? When you choose "Book fold,"
Word
formats
the page into two 5.5" x 8.5" pages. If you had already created
the
document, it reflows your text into those pages at the same
size,
with
the
same margins, which is why you need to reduce the margins and
(probably)
the
font size.


Both "Book fold" and "2 pages per sheet" in Page Setup are quite
different
from "2 pages per sheet" in the Print dialog, which reduces a
full
page
to
half-page size. The "2 pages per sheet" and "Book fold" settings
create
two
small pages from one full-sized one.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
When you reduce a page to fit two of them onto a booklet sheet,
you
reduce the type to near-unreadability!


Don't tell me that in order to do a booklet in Word, you need to
be
working on 5.5 x 8.5 page size to start with?


On Sep 21, 9:11 am, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Why do you say increase the type size? I generally use smaller
type
on
smaller pages/in narrower columns. In most cases 12-pt is okay
for
either
a
full page or a half page in a directory or "yearbook," but for
a
printed
7"
x 9" book, I usually find 11-pt more suitable.


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
Reduce the margins and increase the type size.


On Sep 20, 11:47 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"

wrote:


I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet."
Just
keep
in
mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a
printer
that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one
side
of
a
page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with
Word's
"Manual
duplex" setting.


As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet,
keep
in
mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type
size
from
what
you would use for a full-sized page.


David wrote in
messagenews:mm1bd457k6itunt9o2ni8rrb2n057fguln@4ax .com...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:36:12 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:


Have you tried the "Book fold" feature that is built into
Word?
On
the
Margins tab of Page Setup, choose "Book fold" for
"Multiple
pages."
Word
will set up your document with two pages per sheet. You
will
create
the
pages in ordinary numerical order, but Word will print
them
in
the
order
required for folding into a booklet.



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On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:47:09 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.

As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from what
you would use for a full-sized page.


I need to thank you for all your suggestions. Word does a good job
for me with the booklet printing. The fact that Word reflows the text
is fine for my application. But, I suppose that depends on what your
end product is.

I did find one other interesting way of booklet printing. I use Word
2007 to add footnotes, page numbers, borders, etc. - any other special
effects desired. I then use a special download from Microsoft's
download site to do a "save as" to a pdf file. I use Adobe Acrobat
(at least 8.1) to print using Adobe's booklet print mode. Using Adobe
to do the booklet printing keeps the same text on a given page. Adobe
reduces the margins a small amount. Adobe also allows you to print
only the front side, back side and to reverse the page order. This is
handy for some printers - like my laser.

Dave
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Sent (both versions) a few minutes ago.

On Sep 23, 3:54*pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Sure, send it along.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
May I send you the file, so you can hunt for the supposed wandering
page number frame? (You might find the chapter interesting, too.)

On Sep 23, 1:00 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Well, it wouldn't be doing that if you didn't have a wandering page number
frame as explained in the article I referenced.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
I don't expect to be trying it again, especially if it's going to
cause the first line of every page to be indented 1/8" from the right
margin. That's completely unacceptable and apparently uncorrectable.

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As I indicated in my email reply, a page number frame (with the page number
still in it) was in fact the culprit.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message
...
Sent (both versions) a few minutes ago.

On Sep 23, 3:54 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
Sure, send it along.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"grammatim" wrote in message

...
May I send you the file, so you can hunt for the supposed wandering
page number frame? (You might find the chapter interesting, too.)

On Sep 23, 1:00 pm, "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:



Well, it wouldn't be doing that if you didn't have a wandering page
number
frame as explained in the article I referenced.


--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA


"grammatim" wrote in message


...
I don't expect to be trying it again, especially if it's going to
cause the first line of every page to be indented 1/8" from the right
margin. That's completely unacceptable and apparently uncorrectable.



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Apparently you can accomplish the same thing (with a PDF) even using Adobe
Reader--at least that's how I interpret grammatim's remarks.

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Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

David wrote in message ...
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:47:09 -0500, "Suzanne S. Barnhill"
wrote:

I usually use the "All" choice for "Sheets per booklet." Just keep in mind
that they need to be a multiple of 4. Unless you have a printer that
duplexes automatically, your best bet is to print just one side of a page
and duplex by photocopying, but you could experiment with Word's "Manual
duplex" setting.

As for the number of pages, when you go to create a booklet, keep in mind
that you will probably want to reduce the margins and type size from what
you would use for a full-sized page.


I need to thank you for all your suggestions. Word does a good job
for me with the booklet printing. The fact that Word reflows the text
is fine for my application. But, I suppose that depends on what your
end product is.

I did find one other interesting way of booklet printing. I use Word
2007 to add footnotes, page numbers, borders, etc. - any other special
effects desired. I then use a special download from Microsoft's
download site to do a "save as" to a pdf file. I use Adobe Acrobat
(at least 8.1) to print using Adobe's booklet print mode. Using Adobe
to do the booklet printing keeps the same text on a given page. Adobe
reduces the margins a small amount. Adobe also allows you to print
only the front side, back side and to reverse the page order. This is
handy for some printers - like my laser.

Dave



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