[Mary]

The company I work for has set of Word templates that are seriously abused
by Word users who don't have any understanding of how to apply styles. I
figured that it would be a good idea, at least for some documents, to
protect the styles but I'm finding some drawbacks that I don't know how to
overcome.

The style Heading 1 does not normally start on a new page, but in some
documents we force it to start on a new page by checking "page break
before." However, this is not something I can do once the styles are
protected. The only solution I can come up with is to use manual page breaks
(which I dislike) or to create a second style Heading 1_pagebreakbefore.

Then there are times when I would want to use "keep with next" on the style
Normal, e.g., the lead in line before a set of bullets. Again, if the styles
are protected, I can't do that.

In a previous test using a document with protected styles, I also ran into a
lot of difficulties with tables. I had problems with header rows becoming
separated from the rest of the table and also of not being able to control
where tables split across pages.

Any advice would be most welcome.

[Stefan Blom]

If you are saying that all occurrences of Heading 1 should start a new page
in some documents, you could create a specific template for those documents
(and enable the "Keep with next" option for the Heading 1 style). On the
other hand, if only some Heading 1 paragraphs within a document should start
a new page, you would have to create a separate style and include it with the
template.

Similarly, you would have to create a specific style to use immediately
above numbered lists. Although this may seem a bit clumsy, I don't see
another way.

I guess another possibility is to ask, in a programming newsgroup, if there
is a way to bypass the styles protection feature (for the "Page break before"
and "Keep with next" settings). But, of course, this would defeat the purpose
of having a protected document in the first place...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Mary" wrote:

The company I work for has set of Word templates that are seriously abused
by Word users who don't have any understanding of how to apply styles. I
figured that it would be a good idea, at least for some documents, to
protect the styles but I'm finding some drawbacks that I don't know how to
overcome.

The style Heading 1 does not normally start on a new page, but in some
documents we force it to start on a new page by checking "page break
before." However, this is not something I can do once the styles are
protected. The only solution I can come up with is to use manual page breaks
(which I dislike) or to create a second style Heading 1_pagebreakbefore.

Then there are times when I would want to use "keep with next" on the style
Normal, e.g., the lead in line before a set of bullets. Again, if the styles
are protected, I can't do that.

In a previous test using a document with protected styles, I also ran into a
lot of difficulties with tables. I had problems with header rows becoming
separated from the rest of the table and also of not being able to control
where tables split across pages.

Any advice would be most welcome.

[Stefan Blom]

"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
If you are saying that all occurrences of Heading 1 should start a
new page
in some documents, you could create a specific template for those
documents
(and enable the "Keep with next" option for the Heading 1 style).

Correction: enable the "Page break before" option...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




On the
other hand, if only some Heading 1 paragraphs within a document
should start
a new page, you would have to create a separate style and include it
with the
template.

Similarly, you would have to create a specific style to use
immediately
above numbered lists. Although this may seem a bit clumsy, I don't
see
another way.

I guess another possibility is to ask, in a programming newsgroup,
if there
is a way to bypass the styles protection feature (for the "Page
break before"
and "Keep with next" settings). But, of course, this would defeat
the purpose
of having a protected document in the first place...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Mary" wrote:

The company I work for has set of Word templates that are
seriously abused
by Word users who don't have any understanding of how to apply
styles. I
figured that it would be a good idea, at least for some documents,
to
protect the styles but I'm finding some drawbacks that I don't
know how to
overcome.

The style Heading 1 does not normally start on a new page, but in
some
documents we force it to start on a new page by checking "page
break
before." However, this is not something I can do once the styles
are
protected. The only solution I can come up with is to use manual
page breaks
(which I dislike) or to create a second style Heading
1_pagebreakbefore.

Then there are times when I would want to use "keep with next" on
the style
Normal, e.g., the lead in line before a set of bullets. Again, if
the styles
are protected, I can't do that.

In a previous test using a document with protected styles, I also
ran into a
lot of difficulties with tables. I had problems with header rows
becoming
separated from the rest of the table and also of not being able to
control
where tables split across pages.

Any advice would be most welcome.

[Mary]

I was afraid that would be the case. I suppose it's a matter of investing
time upfront in developing all the necessary styles instead of spending a
lot of time later clearing up the messes that result in people going wild
with manual formatting.


"Stefan Blom" wrote in message
...
If you are saying that all occurrences of Heading 1 should start a new
page
in some documents, you could create a specific template for those
documents
(and enable the "Keep with next" option for the Heading 1 style). On the
other hand, if only some Heading 1 paragraphs within a document should
start
a new page, you would have to create a separate style and include it with
the
template.

Similarly, you would have to create a specific style to use immediately
above numbered lists. Although this may seem a bit clumsy, I don't see
another way.

I guess another possibility is to ask, in a programming newsgroup, if
there
is a way to bypass the styles protection feature (for the "Page break
before"
and "Keep with next" settings). But, of course, this would defeat the
purpose
of having a protected document in the first place...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Mary" wrote:

The company I work for has set of Word templates that are seriously
abused
by Word users who don't have any understanding of how to apply styles. I
figured that it would be a good idea, at least for some documents, to
protect the styles but I'm finding some drawbacks that I don't know how
to
overcome.

The style Heading 1 does not normally start on a new page, but in some
documents we force it to start on a new page by checking "page break
before." However, this is not something I can do once the styles are
protected. The only solution I can come up with is to use manual page
breaks
(which I dislike) or to create a second style Heading 1_pagebreakbefore.

Then there are times when I would want to use "keep with next" on the
style
Normal, e.g., the lead in line before a set of bullets. Again, if the
styles
are protected, I can't do that.

In a previous test using a document with protected styles, I also ran
into a
lot of difficulties with tables. I had problems with header rows becoming
separated from the rest of the table and also of not being able to
control
where tables split across pages.

Any advice would be most welcome.