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Paragraph style border settings won't stick
Hi,
I've got a paragraph style that I've attached a left border line to. The line is solid, width .5 pts, and color is automatic. I keep trying to set the line to .75 pts width and color blue, but it has no effect. Even switching to the Shading tab of the options dialog causes the Border Tab settings to revert while the dialog is still open. This is not a critical error to me, but it would be nice to know what's going on. Thanks, p. |
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Paragraph style border settings won't stick
Since you do not describe the exact steps you follow, I dont know precisely
what you do. In the Borders and Shading dialog box, you must first select the border style, color and width, then click the icon to the left to apply the desired border(s) €“ if you have a border set, you need to click that border again to apply the new settings. Maybe you are missing this last step. -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Paul B" wrote: Hi, I've got a paragraph style that I've attached a left border line to. The line is solid, width .5 pts, and color is automatic. I keep trying to set the line to .75 pts width and color blue, but it has no effect. Even switching to the Shading tab of the options dialog causes the Border Tab settings to revert while the dialog is still open. This is not a critical error to me, but it would be nice to know what's going on. Thanks, p. |
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Paragraph style border settings won't stick
On Mon, 11 May 2009 06:04:01 -0700, Lene Fredborg wrote:
Since you do not describe the exact steps you follow, I dont know precisely what you do. In the Borders and Shading dialog box, you must first select the border style, color and width, then click the icon to the left to apply the desired border(s) €“ if you have a border set, you need to click that border again to apply the new settings. Maybe you are missing this last step. Lene, that last step is exactly what was lacking. Thanks very much for your help on this. bb, p. |
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Paragraph style border settings won't stick
You are welcome. I am glad I could help.
The way the dialog box works is not intuitive. Even though I know how it works, I sometimes forget to click the border icon myself. -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Paul B" wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009 06:04:01 -0700, Lene Fredborg wrote: Since you do not describe the exact steps you follow, I dont know precisely what you do. In the Borders and Shading dialog box, you must first select the border style, color and width, then click the icon to the left to apply the desired border(s) €“ if you have a border set, you need to click that border again to apply the new settings. Maybe you are missing this last step. Lene, that last step is exactly what was lacking. Thanks very much for your help on this. bb, p. |
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Paragraph style border settings won't stick
I'll second that. It is actually logical when you think in terms of anything
other than a box border. Say you want to make the left and right borders red and heavy and the top and bottom borders blue and thin (don't ask me why you would want to do this!). You don't want all the borders to change when you change the color or weight, only the selected ones. Yes, you might select one of the borders and make the changes and expect them to take effect, but the way Word works is actually more efficient in that changing the color and weight changes the current default so that you can then click several of the borders to apply the same formatting, then change the formatting (if desired) and click other borders. But I agree that it's not entirely intuitive, and I also get caught frequently even though I know better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... You are welcome. I am glad I could help. The way the dialog box works is not intuitive. Even though I know how it works, I sometimes forget to click the border icon myself. -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Paul B" wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009 06:04:01 -0700, Lene Fredborg wrote: Since you do not describe the exact steps you follow, I dont know precisely what you do. In the Borders and Shading dialog box, you must first select the border style, color and width, then click the icon to the left to apply the desired border(s) €“ if you have a border set, you need to click that border again to apply the new settings. Maybe you are missing this last step. Lene, that last step is exactly what was lacking. Thanks very much for your help on this. bb, p. |
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Paragraph style border settings won't stick
I think the problem is that you can OK out of the dialog box after having
changed settings and that those settings may not be applied to anything. Since you cannot see clearly see from the design of the Borders tab how things work, that is not what you expect. Normally, OK means €œApply€ and if you have only changed settings that will not be applied to anything, €œClose€ is a more correct label for the button. But this would not work here because the dialog box has three tabs for different purposes €“ and you could have made changes to €œOK€ on the other tabs. Maybe it would help if a message appeared when clicking OK if unapplied border settings were found €“ it could say something like €œYou have changed the border style, color or width. Do you want to apply the new settings to the selected border(s)?€ -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I'll second that. It is actually logical when you think in terms of anything other than a box border. Say you want to make the left and right borders red and heavy and the top and bottom borders blue and thin (don't ask me why you would want to do this!). You don't want all the borders to change when you change the color or weight, only the selected ones. Yes, you might select one of the borders and make the changes and expect them to take effect, but the way Word works is actually more efficient in that changing the color and weight changes the current default so that you can then click several of the borders to apply the same formatting, then change the formatting (if desired) and click other borders. But I agree that it's not entirely intuitive, and I also get caught frequently even though I know better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... You are welcome. I am glad I could help. The way the dialog box works is not intuitive. Even though I know how it works, I sometimes forget to click the border icon myself. -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Paul B" wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009 06:04:01 -0700, Lene Fredborg wrote: Since you do not describe the exact steps you follow, I dont know precisely what you do. In the Borders and Shading dialog box, you must first select the border style, color and width, then click the icon to the left to apply the desired border(s) €“ if you have a border set, you need to click that border again to apply the new settings. Maybe you are missing this last step. Lene, that last step is exactly what was lacking. Thanks very much for your help on this. bb, p. |
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Paragraph style border settings won't stick
Ah, but that would drive me crazy when I've just gone in to fiddle with
something to help a user. g -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... I think the problem is that you can OK out of the dialog box after having changed settings and that those settings may not be applied to anything. Since you cannot see clearly see from the design of the Borders tab how things work, that is not what you expect. Normally, OK means €œApply€ and if you have only changed settings that will not be applied to anything, €œClose€ is a more correct label for the button. But this would not work here because the dialog box has three tabs for different purposes €“ and you could have made changes to €œOK€ on the other tabs. Maybe it would help if a message appeared when clicking OK if unapplied border settings were found €“ it could say something like €œYou have changed the border style, color or width. Do you want to apply the new settings to the selected border(s)?€ -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I'll second that. It is actually logical when you think in terms of anything other than a box border. Say you want to make the left and right borders red and heavy and the top and bottom borders blue and thin (don't ask me why you would want to do this!). You don't want all the borders to change when you change the color or weight, only the selected ones. Yes, you might select one of the borders and make the changes and expect them to take effect, but the way Word works is actually more efficient in that changing the color and weight changes the current default so that you can then click several of the borders to apply the same formatting, then change the formatting (if desired) and click other borders. But I agree that it's not entirely intuitive, and I also get caught frequently even though I know better. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Lene Fredborg" wrote in message ... You are welcome. I am glad I could help. The way the dialog box works is not intuitive. Even though I know how it works, I sometimes forget to click the border icon myself. -- Regards Lene Fredborg - Microsoft MVP (Word) DocTools - Denmark www.thedoctools.com Document automation - add-ins, macros and templates for Microsoft Word "Paul B" wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009 06:04:01 -0700, Lene Fredborg wrote: Since you do not describe the exact steps you follow, I dont know precisely what you do. In the Borders and Shading dialog box, you must first select the border style, color and width, then click the icon to the left to apply the desired border(s) €“ if you have a border set, you need to click that border again to apply the new settings. Maybe you are missing this last step. Lene, that last step is exactly what was lacking. Thanks very much for your help on this. bb, p. |
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