Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
landmark landmark is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 0
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros and many customizations.

As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file, but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.

I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it up?
  #2   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_] Stefan Blom[_3_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,897
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

It seems as if your user templates folder isn't where you think it is. To find
the correct path to the folder, look in the File Locations dialog box (click the
File Locations button at Office button | Word Options | Advanced).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"landmark" wrote in message ...

I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was
recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros
and many customizations.

As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file,
but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and
Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date
modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent
when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.

I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations
will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the
customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent
normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it
up?




--
landmark

  #3   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels Peter T. Daniels is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,215
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

Wouldn't Word have renamed the old one when it made a new one, so that
landmark can get all the customizations out of it somehow?

On Aug 3, 6:33*pm, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
It seems as if your user templates folder isn't where you think it is. To find
the correct path to the folder, look in the File Locations dialog box (click the
File Locations button at Office button | Word Options | Advanced).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"landmark" *wrote in ...

I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was
recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros
and many customizations.

As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file,
but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and
Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date
modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent
when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.

I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations
will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the
customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent
normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it
up?

--
landmark


  #4   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_] Stefan Blom[_3_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,897
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

I'm not sure. Actually, I'm having difficulties envisioning a scenario where
Word would create a new Normal template unless the old one was missing. Well,
there is one situation: when you install Word 2007 or 2010 and there is a
Normal.dot present, that template will be renamed (and its settings copied into
Normal.dotm).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...

Wouldn't Word have renamed the old one when it made a new one, so that
landmark can get all the customizations out of it somehow?

On Aug 3, 6:33 pm, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
It seems as if your user templates folder isn't where you think it is. To find
the correct path to the folder, look in the File Locations dialog box (click
the
File Locations button at Office button | Word Options | Advanced).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"landmark" wrote in ...

I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was
recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros
and many customizations.

As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file,
but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and
Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date
modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent
when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.

I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations
will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the
customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent
normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it
up?

--
landmark


  #5   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels Peter T. Daniels is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,215
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

That didn't happen when I beta-downloaded 2010: all my macros and
shortcuts (I have hundreds, quite mnemonic, for phonetic characters)
disappeared, so I shut it down and rooted around to find my own
normal.dotm.

On Aug 4, 9:24*am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
I'm not sure. Actually, I'm having difficulties envisioning a scenario where
Word would create a new Normal template unless the old one was missing. Well,
there is one situation: when you install Word 2007 or 2010 and there is a
Normal.dot present, that template will be renamed (and its settings copied into
Normal.dotm).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Peter T. Daniels" *wrote in ...

Wouldn't Word have renamed the old one when it made a new one, so that
landmark can get all the customizations out of it somehow?

On Aug 3, 6:33 pm, "Stefan Blom"



wrote:
It seems as if your user templates folder isn't where you think it is. To find
the correct path to the folder, look in the File Locations dialog box (click
the
File Locations button at Office button | Word Options | Advanced).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"landmark" *wrote in ...


I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was
recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros
and many customizations.


As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file,
but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and
Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date
modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent
when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.


I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations
will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the
customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent
normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it
up?



  #6   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_] Stefan Blom[_3_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,897
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

Maybe my memory fails me when it comes to macros. However, I'm certain that font
settings were changed to match my defaults in Word 2003 (which were Times New
Roman 12 points for body text and and Arial for headings).

Are you saying that you got a fresh Normal.dotm with the settings of Word 2010
(meaning that the default font was set to Calibri, 11 points and that headings
were in Cambria)?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...

That didn't happen when I beta-downloaded 2010: all my macros and
shortcuts (I have hundreds, quite mnemonic, for phonetic characters)
disappeared, so I shut it down and rooted around to find my own
normal.dotm.

On Aug 4, 9:24 am, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
I'm not sure. Actually, I'm having difficulties envisioning a scenario where
Word would create a new Normal template unless the old one was missing. Well,
there is one situation: when you install Word 2007 or 2010 and there is a
Normal.dot present, that template will be renamed (and its settings copied
into
Normal.dotm).

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...

Wouldn't Word have renamed the old one when it made a new one, so that
landmark can get all the customizations out of it somehow?

On Aug 3, 6:33 pm, "Stefan Blom"



wrote:
It seems as if your user templates folder isn't where you think it is. To
find
the correct path to the folder, look in the File Locations dialog box (click
the
File Locations button at Office button | Word Options | Advanced).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"landmark" wrote in ...


I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was
recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros
and many customizations.


As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file,
but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and
Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date
modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent
when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.


I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations
will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the
customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent
normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it
up?


  #7   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels Peter T. Daniels is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,215
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

IIRC, I simply opened an existing document to keep working on it, and
I couldn't type accents or transpose characters. I didn't need to know
any more than that, and I didn't see that there were any but cosmetic
changes to the GUI. So I Uninstalled it ASAP.

On Aug 4, 1:55*pm, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
Maybe my memory fails me when it comes to macros. However, I'm certain that font
settings were changed to match my defaults in Word 2003 (which were Times New
Roman 12 points for body text and and Arial for headings).

Are you saying that you got a fresh Normal.dotm with the settings of Word 2010
(meaning that the default font was set to Calibri, 11 points and that headings
were in Cambria)?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Peter T. Daniels" *wrote in ...

That didn't happen when I beta-downloaded 2010: all my macros and
shortcuts (I have hundreds, quite mnemonic, for phonetic characters)
disappeared, so I shut it down and rooted around to find my own
normal.dotm.

On Aug 4, 9:24 am, "Stefan Blom"



wrote:
I'm not sure. Actually, I'm having difficulties envisioning a scenario where
Word would create a new Normal template unless the old one was missing. Well,
there is one situation: when you install Word 2007 or 2010 and there is a
Normal.dot present, that template will be renamed (and its settings copied
into
Normal.dotm).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Peter T. Daniels" *wrote in
...


Wouldn't Word have renamed the old one when it made a new one, so that
landmark can get all the customizations out of it somehow?


On Aug 3, 6:33 pm, "Stefan Blom"


wrote:
It seems as if your user templates folder isn't where you think it is.. To
find
the correct path to the folder, look in the File Locations dialog box (click
the
File Locations button at Office button | Word Options | Advanced).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"landmark" *wrote in ...


I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was
recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros
and many customizations.


As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file,
but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and
Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date
modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent
when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.


I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations
will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the
customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent
normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it
up?-

  #8   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_] Stefan Blom[_3_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,897
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

It seems as if you didn't look that closely into what happened with the Normal
template, then.

Or maybe it's just that beta software does things differently than full
versions...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...

IIRC, I simply opened an existing document to keep working on it, and
I couldn't type accents or transpose characters. I didn't need to know
any more than that, and I didn't see that there were any but cosmetic
changes to the GUI. So I Uninstalled it ASAP.

On Aug 4, 1:55 pm, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
Maybe my memory fails me when it comes to macros. However, I'm certain that
font
settings were changed to match my defaults in Word 2003 (which were Times New
Roman 12 points for body text and and Arial for headings).

Are you saying that you got a fresh Normal.dotm with the settings of Word 2010
(meaning that the default font was set to Calibri, 11 points and that headings
were in Cambria)?

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...

That didn't happen when I beta-downloaded 2010: all my macros and
shortcuts (I have hundreds, quite mnemonic, for phonetic characters)
disappeared, so I shut it down and rooted around to find my own
normal.dotm.

On Aug 4, 9:24 am, "Stefan Blom"



wrote:
I'm not sure. Actually, I'm having difficulties envisioning a scenario where
Word would create a new Normal template unless the old one was missing.
Well,
there is one situation: when you install Word 2007 or 2010 and there is a
Normal.dot present, that template will be renamed (and its settings copied
into
Normal.dotm).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...


Wouldn't Word have renamed the old one when it made a new one, so that
landmark can get all the customizations out of it somehow?


On Aug 3, 6:33 pm, "Stefan Blom"


wrote:
It seems as if your user templates folder isn't where you think it is. To
find
the correct path to the folder, look in the File Locations dialog box
(click
the
File Locations button at Office button | Word Options | Advanced).


--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"landmark" wrote in ...


I'm using MS Word 2007 on Vista, and my normal.dotm template file was
recently compromised, so Word generated a fresh one. I lost my macros
and many customizations.


As I redo all my customizations, I want to backup the normal.dotm file,
but when I go to the folder that it's in (C:\Documents and
Settings\[user]\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates), the "date
modified" date doesn't get updated. The date and time stamp represent
when the new template file was generated, but it never changes.


I could save this file elsewhere but I don't think my new customizations
will be included. Nevertheless, when I open a new Word doc, the
customizations and macros are all present. So where is my most recent
normal.dotm file, if it's not in the Templates folder? How can I back it
up?-


  #9   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Peter T. Daniels Peter T. Daniels is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 3,215
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

I just got an ad for something new -- Office365 I think they called it
-- but it seemed to suggest it's some sort of mobile app?

On Aug 4, 7:00*pm, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
It seems as if you didn't look that closely into what happened with the Normal
template, then.

Or maybe it's just that beta software does things differently than full
versions...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Peter T. Daniels" *wrote in ...

IIRC, I simply opened an existing document to keep working on it, and
I couldn't type accents or transpose characters. I didn't need to know
any more than that, and I didn't see that there were any but cosmetic
changes to the GUI. So I Uninstalled it ASAP.

On Aug 4, 1:55 pm, "Stefan Blom"



wrote:
Maybe my memory fails me when it comes to macros. However, I'm certain that
font
settings were changed to match my defaults in Word 2003 (which were Times New
Roman 12 points for body text and and Arial for headings).


Are you saying that you got a fresh Normal.dotm with the settings of Word 2010
(meaning that the default font was set to Calibri, 11 points and that headings
were in Cambria)?

  #10   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_] Stefan Blom[_3_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,897
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

Yes, what is Word 365? I think it's an online subscription of Office rather than
a
traditional installation. See
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/offic...-software.aspx.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in message
...

I just got an ad for something new -- Office365 I think they called it
-- but it seemed to suggest it's some sort of mobile app?

On Aug 4, 7:00 pm, "Stefan Blom"
wrote:
It seems as if you didn't look that closely into what happened with the Normal
template, then.

Or maybe it's just that beta software does things differently than full
versions...

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP

"Peter T. Daniels" wrote in
...

IIRC, I simply opened an existing document to keep working on it, and
I couldn't type accents or transpose characters. I didn't need to know
any more than that, and I didn't see that there were any but cosmetic
changes to the GUI. So I Uninstalled it ASAP.

On Aug 4, 1:55 pm, "Stefan Blom"



wrote:
Maybe my memory fails me when it comes to macros. However, I'm certain that
font
settings were changed to match my defaults in Word 2003 (which were Times
New
Roman 12 points for body text and and Arial for headings).


Are you saying that you got a fresh Normal.dotm with the settings of Word
2010
(meaning that the default font was set to Calibri, 11 points and that
headings
were in Cambria)?




  #11   Report Post  
landmark landmark is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 0
Default

OP here.

Yes, Word generated a new template with the default fonts of Calibri and Cambria (headings).

The question is, Where is my template? How can I find the active dotm file?

I look into where the options where it says the file would be, but that file always has the old timestamp on it. The customizations and changes are being saved somewhere else, but I can't figure out where. It is not in the folder designated by Word options it seems.
  #12   Report Post  
landmark landmark is offline
Junior Member
 
Posts: 0
Default

Could the ContributeWordUITemplate.dot file have anything to do with this?
  #13   Report Post  
Posted to microsoft.public.word.docmanagement
Stefan Blom[_3_] Stefan Blom[_3_] is offline
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 6,897
Default Can't Backup Normal Template

Search Windows for all files called Normal.dotm (be sure to search hidden files
and folders). The file must be somewhere. If you're not already displaying
filename extensions in Windows, choose to do so (it's in Folder Options).

By the way, which kind of customizations are we talking about here? Note that
not everything is saved in Normal.dotm. Macros, for example, could be in a
custom template or in an add-in.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP




"landmark" wrote in message ...

OP here.

Yes, Word generated a new template with the default fonts of Calibri and
Cambria (headings).

The question is, Where is my template? How can I find the active dotm
file?

I look into where the options where it says the file would be, but that
file always has the old timestamp on it. The customizations and changes
are being saved somewhere else, but I can't figure out where. It is not
in the folder designated by Word options it seems.




--
landmark

Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AutoCorrect - Backup/Restore Formatted entries from users [normal. Mike Faulkner Microsoft Word Help 5 December 6th 06 03:00 PM
No Backup saved when "Always Create Backup Copy" checked. Why? tamoeller Microsoft Word Help 2 June 18th 06 06:00 AM
problems creating a new normal.dot; word can not delete old backup file because...... GH Formatting Long Documents 0 September 22nd 05 10:56 AM
Can you recover normal template without backup Meeme2001 Microsoft Word Help 1 June 10th 05 06:19 PM
Normal.dot template and Normal style Lonely Editor Microsoft Word Help 1 February 1st 05 08:42 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:56 AM.

Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 Microsoft Office Word Forum - WordBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Microsoft Word"