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When text boundaries is ON, the cursor gets lost in the boundary.
Revise the action like Offive XP or 2003. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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I can tell you that apparently no one who was designing the new UI ever
displays text boundaries or nonprinting characters. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... When text boundaries is ON, the cursor gets lost in the boundary. Revise the action like Offive XP or 2003. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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This is a reason why documents don't usually have professional layouts. I
teach Professionalism with Precision using Word 2003. It is a very accurate layout program to within 0.02". The knowledge of how to do precision layout teaches students both: how Word works and how to have the mindset of caring about the final product. Relating everything in the layout to the text boundary makes an intelligent procedure for accurate layout with a balanced look. I see Word 2007 as an attempt to do this with a cookie cutter approach. But this means, even more so, everyone's work will look like everyone else. It will foster more lazy work. MS templates should be used only as references to developing an individual look or "Personal Brand." If this cursor hiding in the text boundaries is not fixed, it will make my effort more difficult but I will adapt my students to it. I am slowly finding ways to make Word 2007 do the easy individualism of Word 2003. Thanks to the beta, by the time my university adopts it; I will be ready with the tips and tricks to teach individual Personal Branding of products with Word 2007. From what I see of the new UI, it is a step in the wrong direction. Word 2003 doesn't need the UI to do better work. The canned styles/template approach of Word 2007 only moves to the lowest common denominator. All the improved collaboration of Word 2007 is fine, but the new UI is not needed to use it. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I can tell you that apparently no one who was designing the new UI ever displays text boundaries or nonprinting characters. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... When text boundaries is ON, the cursor gets lost in the boundary. Revise the action like Offive XP or 2003. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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I am not disagreeing with you. But I can tell you that when the Word MVPS
had a LiveMeeting with one of the UI designers, I had to ask him specifically to display text boundaries so I could see what was going on on his screen. Apparently this was a new concept to him. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... This is a reason why documents don't usually have professional layouts. I teach Professionalism with Precision using Word 2003. It is a very accurate layout program to within 0.02". The knowledge of how to do precision layout teaches students both: how Word works and how to have the mindset of caring about the final product. Relating everything in the layout to the text boundary makes an intelligent procedure for accurate layout with a balanced look. I see Word 2007 as an attempt to do this with a cookie cutter approach. But this means, even more so, everyone's work will look like everyone else. It will foster more lazy work. MS templates should be used only as references to developing an individual look or "Personal Brand." If this cursor hiding in the text boundaries is not fixed, it will make my effort more difficult but I will adapt my students to it. I am slowly finding ways to make Word 2007 do the easy individualism of Word 2003. Thanks to the beta, by the time my university adopts it; I will be ready with the tips and tricks to teach individual Personal Branding of products with Word 2007. From what I see of the new UI, it is a step in the wrong direction. Word 2003 doesn't need the UI to do better work. The canned styles/template approach of Word 2007 only moves to the lowest common denominator. All the improved collaboration of Word 2007 is fine, but the new UI is not needed to use it. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I can tell you that apparently no one who was designing the new UI ever displays text boundaries or nonprinting characters. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... When text boundaries is ON, the cursor gets lost in the boundary. Revise the action like Offive XP or 2003. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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Understand. This explains a lot about the UI. Sad that so much has gone into
a flawed approach that won't lead to the "great concept" of MS. I just hope others will make the effort to not go the lazy route. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I am not disagreeing with you. But I can tell you that when the Word MVPS had a LiveMeeting with one of the UI designers, I had to ask him specifically to display text boundaries so I could see what was going on on his screen. Apparently this was a new concept to him. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... This is a reason why documents don't usually have professional layouts. I teach Professionalism with Precision using Word 2003. It is a very accurate layout program to within 0.02". The knowledge of how to do precision layout teaches students both: how Word works and how to have the mindset of caring about the final product. Relating everything in the layout to the text boundary makes an intelligent procedure for accurate layout with a balanced look. I see Word 2007 as an attempt to do this with a cookie cutter approach. But this means, even more so, everyone's work will look like everyone else. It will foster more lazy work. MS templates should be used only as references to developing an individual look or "Personal Brand." If this cursor hiding in the text boundaries is not fixed, it will make my effort more difficult but I will adapt my students to it. I am slowly finding ways to make Word 2007 do the easy individualism of Word 2003. Thanks to the beta, by the time my university adopts it; I will be ready with the tips and tricks to teach individual Personal Branding of products with Word 2007. From what I see of the new UI, it is a step in the wrong direction. Word 2003 doesn't need the UI to do better work. The canned styles/template approach of Word 2007 only moves to the lowest common denominator. All the improved collaboration of Word 2007 is fine, but the new UI is not needed to use it. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: I can tell you that apparently no one who was designing the new UI ever displays text boundaries or nonprinting characters. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... When text boundaries is ON, the cursor gets lost in the boundary. Revise the action like Offive XP or 2003. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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Hi UDHSS226,
Using Print Layoutview and either 'page width' or 'text width' view settings I'm not seeing a difference in the cursor placement in Word 2007 vs. Word 2003 with respect to 'text boundaries'. It could be a graphics card setting or one of the 'zoom' flaws that exist in a couple of versions, perhaps? You can use the 2007 Feedback tool link below to send feedback on your experiences with the new Word 2007 User Interface directly to the Office product team. ========= "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... When text boundaries is ON, the cursor gets lost in the boundary. Revise the action like Offive XP or 2003. -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office system products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends LINKS for the 2007 Office System 1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at http://microsoft.com/office/preview 2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2? Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures) http://sas.office.microsoft.com/ 3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007 a. Install the ActiveX access control http://office.microsoft.com/search/r...XT101650581033 b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net |
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I use a GeForce4 Ti 4200. This meets and exceeds the 2007 Microsoft Office System Programs requirements. The issue is the cursor flashes within the typing area but does not flash when on the text boundaries with beta 2. But with 2003 the cursor flashes on the text boundary as well as within the typing area. "Bob Buckland ?:-)" wrote: Hi UDHSS226, Using Print Layoutview and either 'page width' or 'text width' view settings I'm not seeing a difference in the cursor placement in Word 2007 vs. Word 2003 with respect to 'text boundaries'. It could be a graphics card setting or one of the 'zoom' flaws that exist in a couple of versions, perhaps? You can use the 2007 Feedback tool link below to send feedback on your experiences with the new Word 2007 User Interface directly to the Office product team. ========= "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... When text boundaries is ON, the cursor gets lost in the boundary. Revise the action like Offive XP or 2003. -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office system products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends LINKS for the 2007 Office System 1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at http://microsoft.com/office/preview 2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2? Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures) http://sas.office.microsoft.com/ 3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007 a. Install the ActiveX access control http://office.microsoft.com/search/r...XT101650581033 b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net |
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Hi UDHSS226, I'm not clear on where you're seeing (or not) seeing the cursor when you say 'on the text boundary'. The typing cursor begins, in a new document, just inside the text boundary. Using an Nvidia Geforce4 MX, the cursor is flashing for me in both Word 2007 and in 2003 in a new document at the text boundary. Have you checked for a driver update on the Nvidia site and/or tried turning down the acceleration two clicks to see if it makes a difference? If you start Word in Office safe mode (hold ctrl key when starting Word) do you see a difference? ======== "UDHSS226" wrote in message ... I use a GeForce4 Ti 4200. This meets and exceeds the 2007 Microsoft Office System Programs requirements. The issue is the cursor flashes within the typing area but does not flash when on the text boundaries with beta 2. But with 2003 the cursor flashes on the text boundary as well as within the typing area. -- Bob Buckland ?:-) MS Office system products MVP *Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends LINKS for the 2007 Office System 1. Read about it, try it, or watch the movie the 2007 Microsoft Office system iinfo is at http://microsoft.com/office/preview 2. Already have 2007 Office System Beta 2? Send Microsoft your feedback (with pictures) http://sas.office.microsoft.com/ 3. Use the 2007 OfficeOnline website without Office2007 a. Install the ActiveX access control http://office.microsoft.com/search/r...XT101650581033 b. then visit http://officebeta.iponet.net |
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