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Default Styles not formatting properly

Forgive me for my lengthy post, but I thought I would provide enough
information for you to help me determine why my styles are not formatting
properly.

First, I am using Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Now for the details.

My coworkers and I have our Normal.dot set up with the exact same styles and
style attributes. We also share a document template that has also been set
up with the exact same styles and style attributes as those found in the
Normal.dot file.

I know, we don't need both, but the document templates are used primarily by
the engineers, not the members of my team.

Anyway, if I open a new document (File | New), type 3 sentences, then apply
the Note style to the first sentence, the term Note is left justified. If I
apply Note 2 to the second sentence, the term Note is indented 1/4 inch. If
I apply Note 3 to the third sentence, the term Note is indented 1/2 inch.
This is the formatting we have applied to each of the three Note styles we've
built.

Unfortunately, the formatting doesn't work the same in a document that was
created using the document template I mentioned above. Note 1 is left
justified, as it should be, but Note 2 and Note 3 are really misaligned.
Note 2 indents 3/4 inch and Note 3 indents slightly more than 1/4 inch. In
other words, Note 2 is indented more than Note 3. This is baffling because
the document template has the exact same styles and style attributes as
Normal.dot.

Using Organizer, I copied the two Note styles from Normal.dot to the current
document's styles and tried to re-apply the two styles to the text in the
document. Not surprisingly, there were no changes in the positioning of the
Note terms.

Two questions -
1. Considering the styles in the document template were built with the
exact same style attributes as those in Normal.dot, why didn't Note 2 and
Note 3 align properly - the way they aligned in the blank document when
Normal.dot was used to format the three sentences??

2. Normal.dot formatted the text correctly in a new document (File | New),
but when copied to the current document's styles and applied to the text, the
text would NOT format correctly. It was misaligned. Can someone please tell
me why??

Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all your help.
-----------------
getravel (Mike)

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
 
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Default Styles not formatting properly

Some avenues you could explo

1. What styles are the styles based on? Is Note based on Normal? Is Note 2
based on Note? Etc. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...esCascade.html

2. How did you apply the indents? In the Format | Paragraph dialog? Or was
Bullets and Numbering implicated in any way? Is there a chance that some
bullet/numbering influence could somehow be affecting these
styles/paragraphs?

3. If you reattach the template (in which the styles are defined correctly)
with "Automatically update document styles" checked, does this make any
difference?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Forgive me for my lengthy post, but I thought I would provide enough
information for you to help me determine why my styles are not formatting
properly.

First, I am using Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Now for the

details.

My coworkers and I have our Normal.dot set up with the exact same styles

and
style attributes. We also share a document template that has also been

set
up with the exact same styles and style attributes as those found in the
Normal.dot file.

I know, we don't need both, but the document templates are used primarily

by
the engineers, not the members of my team.

Anyway, if I open a new document (File | New), type 3 sentences, then

apply
the Note style to the first sentence, the term Note is left justified. If

I
apply Note 2 to the second sentence, the term Note is indented 1/4 inch.

If
I apply Note 3 to the third sentence, the term Note is indented 1/2 inch.
This is the formatting we have applied to each of the three Note styles

we've
built.

Unfortunately, the formatting doesn't work the same in a document that was
created using the document template I mentioned above. Note 1 is left
justified, as it should be, but Note 2 and Note 3 are really misaligned.
Note 2 indents 3/4 inch and Note 3 indents slightly more than 1/4 inch.

In
other words, Note 2 is indented more than Note 3. This is baffling

because
the document template has the exact same styles and style attributes as
Normal.dot.

Using Organizer, I copied the two Note styles from Normal.dot to the

current
document's styles and tried to re-apply the two styles to the text in the
document. Not surprisingly, there were no changes in the positioning of

the
Note terms.

Two questions -
1. Considering the styles in the document template were built with the
exact same style attributes as those in Normal.dot, why didn't Note 2 and
Note 3 align properly - the way they aligned in the blank document when
Normal.dot was used to format the three sentences??

2. Normal.dot formatted the text correctly in a new document (File |

New),
but when copied to the current document's styles and applied to the text,

the
text would NOT format correctly. It was misaligned. Can someone please

tell
me why??

Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all your help.
-----------------
getravel (Mike)


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Default Styles not formatting properly

Suzanne,

you are a genious. I haven't fixed the problem in my document yet, but
after reading the link you provided in your response, I know EXACTLY where
the problem lies.

Thank you so much!!! I'm off to share your guidance with the rest of my team.

Thanks again!!!
--
Thanks,
getravel (Mike)


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Some avenues you could explo

1. What styles are the styles based on? Is Note based on Normal? Is Note 2
based on Note? Etc. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...esCascade.html

2. How did you apply the indents? In the Format | Paragraph dialog? Or was
Bullets and Numbering implicated in any way? Is there a chance that some
bullet/numbering influence could somehow be affecting these
styles/paragraphs?

3. If you reattach the template (in which the styles are defined correctly)
with "Automatically update document styles" checked, does this make any
difference?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Forgive me for my lengthy post, but I thought I would provide enough
information for you to help me determine why my styles are not formatting
properly.

First, I am using Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Now for the

details.

My coworkers and I have our Normal.dot set up with the exact same styles

and
style attributes. We also share a document template that has also been

set
up with the exact same styles and style attributes as those found in the
Normal.dot file.

I know, we don't need both, but the document templates are used primarily

by
the engineers, not the members of my team.

Anyway, if I open a new document (File | New), type 3 sentences, then

apply
the Note style to the first sentence, the term Note is left justified. If

I
apply Note 2 to the second sentence, the term Note is indented 1/4 inch.

If
I apply Note 3 to the third sentence, the term Note is indented 1/2 inch.
This is the formatting we have applied to each of the three Note styles

we've
built.

Unfortunately, the formatting doesn't work the same in a document that was
created using the document template I mentioned above. Note 1 is left
justified, as it should be, but Note 2 and Note 3 are really misaligned.
Note 2 indents 3/4 inch and Note 3 indents slightly more than 1/4 inch.

In
other words, Note 2 is indented more than Note 3. This is baffling

because
the document template has the exact same styles and style attributes as
Normal.dot.

Using Organizer, I copied the two Note styles from Normal.dot to the

current
document's styles and tried to re-apply the two styles to the text in the
document. Not surprisingly, there were no changes in the positioning of

the
Note terms.

Two questions -
1. Considering the styles in the document template were built with the
exact same style attributes as those in Normal.dot, why didn't Note 2 and
Note 3 align properly - the way they aligned in the blank document when
Normal.dot was used to format the three sentences??

2. Normal.dot formatted the text correctly in a new document (File |

New),
but when copied to the current document's styles and applied to the text,

the
text would NOT format correctly. It was misaligned. Can someone please

tell
me why??

Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all your help.
-----------------
getravel (Mike)



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Default Styles not formatting properly

Well, I'm glad if this was helpful. Let us know if it really fixed the
problem!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

you are a genious. I haven't fixed the problem in my document yet, but
after reading the link you provided in your response, I know EXACTLY where
the problem lies.

Thank you so much!!! I'm off to share your guidance with the rest of my

team.

Thanks again!!!
--
Thanks,
getravel (Mike)


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Some avenues you could explo

1. What styles are the styles based on? Is Note based on Normal? Is Note

2
based on Note? Etc. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...esCascade.html

2. How did you apply the indents? In the Format | Paragraph dialog? Or

was
Bullets and Numbering implicated in any way? Is there a chance that some
bullet/numbering influence could somehow be affecting these
styles/paragraphs?

3. If you reattach the template (in which the styles are defined

correctly)
with "Automatically update document styles" checked, does this make any
difference?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Forgive me for my lengthy post, but I thought I would provide enough
information for you to help me determine why my styles are not

formatting
properly.

First, I am using Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Now for the

details.

My coworkers and I have our Normal.dot set up with the exact same

styles
and
style attributes. We also share a document template that has also

been
set
up with the exact same styles and style attributes as those found in

the
Normal.dot file.

I know, we don't need both, but the document templates are used

primarily
by
the engineers, not the members of my team.

Anyway, if I open a new document (File | New), type 3 sentences, then

apply
the Note style to the first sentence, the term Note is left justified.

If
I
apply Note 2 to the second sentence, the term Note is indented 1/4

inch.
If
I apply Note 3 to the third sentence, the term Note is indented 1/2

inch.
This is the formatting we have applied to each of the three Note

styles
we've
built.

Unfortunately, the formatting doesn't work the same in a document that

was
created using the document template I mentioned above. Note 1 is left
justified, as it should be, but Note 2 and Note 3 are really

misaligned.
Note 2 indents 3/4 inch and Note 3 indents slightly more than 1/4

inch.
In
other words, Note 2 is indented more than Note 3. This is baffling

because
the document template has the exact same styles and style attributes

as
Normal.dot.

Using Organizer, I copied the two Note styles from Normal.dot to the

current
document's styles and tried to re-apply the two styles to the text in

the
document. Not surprisingly, there were no changes in the positioning

of
the
Note terms.

Two questions -
1. Considering the styles in the document template were built with

the
exact same style attributes as those in Normal.dot, why didn't Note 2

and
Note 3 align properly - the way they aligned in the blank document

when
Normal.dot was used to format the three sentences??

2. Normal.dot formatted the text correctly in a new document (File |

New),
but when copied to the current document's styles and applied to the

text,
the
text would NOT format correctly. It was misaligned. Can someone

please
tell
me why??

Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all your help.
-----------------
getravel (Mike)




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Susanne,

the web site you referred to in your previous response explained that when a
style is created, based on another style, it maintains all the attributes of
that basis style. This explained why the style I had built was indenting
incorrectly. I wound up building a new style without using another style as
a basis - AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHAMP!!!

Thanks again.
getravel (Mike)


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, I'm glad if this was helpful. Let us know if it really fixed the
problem!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

you are a genious. I haven't fixed the problem in my document yet, but
after reading the link you provided in your response, I know EXACTLY where
the problem lies.

Thank you so much!!! I'm off to share your guidance with the rest of my

team.

Thanks again!!!
--
Thanks,
getravel (Mike)


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Some avenues you could explo

1. What styles are the styles based on? Is Note based on Normal? Is Note

2
based on Note? Etc. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...esCascade.html

2. How did you apply the indents? In the Format | Paragraph dialog? Or

was
Bullets and Numbering implicated in any way? Is there a chance that some
bullet/numbering influence could somehow be affecting these
styles/paragraphs?

3. If you reattach the template (in which the styles are defined

correctly)
with "Automatically update document styles" checked, does this make any
difference?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Forgive me for my lengthy post, but I thought I would provide enough
information for you to help me determine why my styles are not

formatting
properly.

First, I am using Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Now for the
details.

My coworkers and I have our Normal.dot set up with the exact same

styles
and
style attributes. We also share a document template that has also

been
set
up with the exact same styles and style attributes as those found in

the
Normal.dot file.

I know, we don't need both, but the document templates are used

primarily
by
the engineers, not the members of my team.

Anyway, if I open a new document (File | New), type 3 sentences, then
apply
the Note style to the first sentence, the term Note is left justified.

If
I
apply Note 2 to the second sentence, the term Note is indented 1/4

inch.
If
I apply Note 3 to the third sentence, the term Note is indented 1/2

inch.
This is the formatting we have applied to each of the three Note

styles
we've
built.

Unfortunately, the formatting doesn't work the same in a document that

was
created using the document template I mentioned above. Note 1 is left
justified, as it should be, but Note 2 and Note 3 are really

misaligned.
Note 2 indents 3/4 inch and Note 3 indents slightly more than 1/4

inch.
In
other words, Note 2 is indented more than Note 3. This is baffling
because
the document template has the exact same styles and style attributes

as
Normal.dot.

Using Organizer, I copied the two Note styles from Normal.dot to the
current
document's styles and tried to re-apply the two styles to the text in

the
document. Not surprisingly, there were no changes in the positioning

of
the
Note terms.

Two questions -
1. Considering the styles in the document template were built with

the
exact same style attributes as those in Normal.dot, why didn't Note 2

and
Note 3 align properly - the way they aligned in the blank document

when
Normal.dot was used to format the three sentences??

2. Normal.dot formatted the text correctly in a new document (File |
New),
but when copied to the current document's styles and applied to the

text,
the
text would NOT format correctly. It was misaligned. Can someone

please
tell
me why??

Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all your help.
-----------------
getravel (Mike)







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Great! Glad I (and Shauna) could help.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Susanne,

the web site you referred to in your previous response explained that when

a
style is created, based on another style, it maintains all the attributes

of
that basis style. This explained why the style I had built was indenting
incorrectly. I wound up building a new style without using another style

as
a basis - AND IT WORKS LIKE A CHAMP!!!

Thanks again.
getravel (Mike)


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Well, I'm glad if this was helpful. Let us know if it really fixed the
problem!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Suzanne,

you are a genious. I haven't fixed the problem in my document yet,

but
after reading the link you provided in your response, I know EXACTLY

where
the problem lies.

Thank you so much!!! I'm off to share your guidance with the rest of

my
team.

Thanks again!!!
--
Thanks,
getravel (Mike)


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Some avenues you could explo

1. What styles are the styles based on? Is Note based on Normal? Is

Note
2
based on Note? Etc. See
http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/styl...esCascade.html

2. How did you apply the indents? In the Format | Paragraph dialog?

Or
was
Bullets and Numbering implicated in any way? Is there a chance that

some
bullet/numbering influence could somehow be affecting these
styles/paragraphs?

3. If you reattach the template (in which the styles are defined

correctly)
with "Automatically update document styles" checked, does this make

any
difference?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"getravel" wrote in message
...
Forgive me for my lengthy post, but I thought I would provide

enough
information for you to help me determine why my styles are not

formatting
properly.

First, I am using Microsoft Office 2003 Professional. Now for the
details.

My coworkers and I have our Normal.dot set up with the exact same

styles
and
style attributes. We also share a document template that has also

been
set
up with the exact same styles and style attributes as those found

in
the
Normal.dot file.

I know, we don't need both, but the document templates are used

primarily
by
the engineers, not the members of my team.

Anyway, if I open a new document (File | New), type 3 sentences,

then
apply
the Note style to the first sentence, the term Note is left

justified.
If
I
apply Note 2 to the second sentence, the term Note is indented 1/4

inch.
If
I apply Note 3 to the third sentence, the term Note is indented

1/2
inch.
This is the formatting we have applied to each of the three Note

styles
we've
built.

Unfortunately, the formatting doesn't work the same in a document

that
was
created using the document template I mentioned above. Note 1 is

left
justified, as it should be, but Note 2 and Note 3 are really

misaligned.
Note 2 indents 3/4 inch and Note 3 indents slightly more than 1/4

inch.
In
other words, Note 2 is indented more than Note 3. This is

baffling
because
the document template has the exact same styles and style

attributes
as
Normal.dot.

Using Organizer, I copied the two Note styles from Normal.dot to

the
current
document's styles and tried to re-apply the two styles to the text

in
the
document. Not surprisingly, there were no changes in the

positioning
of
the
Note terms.

Two questions -
1. Considering the styles in the document template were built

with
the
exact same style attributes as those in Normal.dot, why didn't

Note 2
and
Note 3 align properly - the way they aligned in the blank document

when
Normal.dot was used to format the three sentences??

2. Normal.dot formatted the text correctly in a new document

(File |
New),
but when copied to the current document's styles and applied to

the
text,
the
text would NOT format correctly. It was misaligned. Can someone

please
tell
me why??

Any information you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all your help.
-----------------
getravel (Mike)






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