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Removing a font override from a style
This should be easy, but I can't find out how to do it.
Say I have a style based on "Normal + Font". How do I remove the font override so that it is once again based on the font specified by Normal? I tried just blanking the font name, style, and size, but that just makes it revert to the original values. The Default button at the bottom is greyed out as well. |
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Removing a font override from a style
Change the font to the one used by Normal.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "Zhiroc" wrote in message ... This should be easy, but I can't find out how to do it. Say I have a style based on "Normal + Font". How do I remove the font override so that it is once again based on the font specified by Normal? I tried just blanking the font name, style, and size, but that just makes it revert to the original values. The Default button at the bottom is greyed out as well. |
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Removing a font override from a style
I knew it was simple, thanks. However, I also think it might not be the
correct way for this to be done, which is part of the reason I didn't think of it... In my mind, there is a distinct difference between "removing an override" and "setting the override to the current default". The reason is that it can lead to unsuspected behavior. Say I have a generic Heading style that I use as a parent style, and I set a child Heading2 style to a different font size. Just because I select the same font size as the parent does not necessarily mean that I now want it to track the parent's changes. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Change the font to the one used by Normal. |
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Removing a font override from a style
Not 100% sure what you're looking for... however, Ctrl+Space removes any
direct character formatting, while Ctrl+Q removes any direct paragraph formatting. There are essentially two style elements (ignoring list and table styles) at any point--paragraph style and character style. Ctrl+Space resets the character formatting so that the only formatting applied is supplied by the current character style (whatever it might be, although it's usually Default Paragraph Font). Ctrl+Q resets the paragraph formatting so that the only paragraph formatting is supplied by the current paragraph style. I suspect that Ctrl+Space is what you're looking for, but I found your discussion a bit hard to follow. Hope this helps... -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "Zhiroc" wrote in message ... I knew it was simple, thanks. However, I also think it might not be the correct way for this to be done, which is part of the reason I didn't think of it... In my mind, there is a distinct difference between "removing an override" and "setting the override to the current default". The reason is that it can lead to unsuspected behavior. Say I have a generic Heading style that I use as a parent style, and I set a child Heading2 style to a different font size. Just because I select the same font size as the parent does not necessarily mean that I now want it to track the parent's changes. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Change the font to the one used by Normal. |
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Removing a font override from a style
Is there a way to keep Ctrl-Space from being overridden by its meaning
in Windows Vista? It happens to be the keyboard shortcut that is assigned automatically for switching to Chinese when the Chinese IME is installed. (I couldn't figure out why I was suddenly getting Chinese character input windows!) I set the keyboard shortcut to (none) in the Regional & Language control panel, but it doesn't stick; it always reverts to Chinese instead of Reset Char. The list says that Ctrl-Shift-Z is also Reset Char. On Feb 6, 7:37*pm, "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: Not 100% sure what you're looking for... however, Ctrl+Space removes any direct character formatting, while Ctrl+Q removes any direct paragraph formatting. There are essentially two style elements (ignoring list and table styles) at any point--paragraph style and character style. Ctrl+Space resets the character formatting so that the only formatting applied is supplied by the current character style (whatever it might be, although it's usually Default Paragraph Font). Ctrl+Q resets the paragraph formatting so that the only paragraph formatting is supplied by the current paragraph style. I suspect that Ctrl+Space is what you're looking for, but I found your discussion a bit hard to follow. Hope this helps... -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web:http://www.herbtyson.com "Zhiroc" wrote in message ... I knew it was simple, thanks. However, I also think it might not be the correct way for this to be done, which is part of the reason I didn't think of it... In my mind, there is a distinct difference between "removing an override" and "setting the override to the current default". The reason is that it can lead to unsuspected behavior. Say I have a generic Heading style that I use as a parent style, and I set a child Heading2 style to a different font size. Just because I select the same font size as the parent does not necessarily mean that I now want it to track the parent's changes. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Change the font to the one used by Normal.- |
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That's a new one on me. I use Vista, but haven't used the IME for Chinese (I
toyed with it a long time ago, but got rid of it after my need to have it installed passed--I never encountered the Ctrl+Space problem--but my toying with the IME lasted less than a day). So, I don't know the level at which that is hardcoded when the IME is enabled--there are some things from other languages that are too basic for Word itself to override, so the IME thing might be too fundamental. You can, of course, reassign the ResetChar command to another keystroke... It's already assigned to Ctrl+Shift+Z, as you point out. Am I correct that that keystroke does not trigger the IME if Chinese is enabled? -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog: http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web: http://www.herbtyson.com "grammatim" wrote in message ... Is there a way to keep Ctrl-Space from being overridden by its meaning in Windows Vista? It happens to be the keyboard shortcut that is assigned automatically for switching to Chinese when the Chinese IME is installed. (I couldn't figure out why I was suddenly getting Chinese character input windows!) I set the keyboard shortcut to (none) in the Regional & Language control panel, but it doesn't stick; it always reverts to Chinese instead of Reset Char. The list says that Ctrl-Shift-Z is also Reset Char. On Feb 6, 7:37 pm, "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: Not 100% sure what you're looking for... however, Ctrl+Space removes any direct character formatting, while Ctrl+Q removes any direct paragraph formatting. There are essentially two style elements (ignoring list and table styles) at any point--paragraph style and character style. Ctrl+Space resets the character formatting so that the only formatting applied is supplied by the current character style (whatever it might be, although it's usually Default Paragraph Font). Ctrl+Q resets the paragraph formatting so that the only paragraph formatting is supplied by the current paragraph style. I suspect that Ctrl+Space is what you're looking for, but I found your discussion a bit hard to follow. Hope this helps... -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web:http://www.herbtyson.com "Zhiroc" wrote in message ... I knew it was simple, thanks. However, I also think it might not be the correct way for this to be done, which is part of the reason I didn't think of it... In my mind, there is a distinct difference between "removing an override" and "setting the override to the current default". The reason is that it can lead to unsuspected behavior. Say I have a generic Heading style that I use as a parent style, and I set a child Heading2 style to a different font size. Just because I select the same font size as the parent does not necessarily mean that I now want it to track the parent's changes. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Change the font to the one used by Normal.- |
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Removing a font override from a style
If you don't want a style to track a parent style, having created the style,
change the base style to 'no style' and it will be independent of the parent style. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Zhiroc wrote: I knew it was simple, thanks. However, I also think it might not be the correct way for this to be done, which is part of the reason I didn't think of it... In my mind, there is a distinct difference between "removing an override" and "setting the override to the current default". The reason is that it can lead to unsuspected behavior. Say I have a generic Heading style that I use as a parent style, and I set a child Heading2 style to a different font size. Just because I select the same font size as the parent does not necessarily mean that I now want it to track the parent's changes. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Change the font to the one used by Normal. |
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Removing a font override from a style
I had to rush out this morning (coincidentally, to a Columbia U
symposium on Writing and Literacy in Early China) so I didn't have time to check, but yes, Ctrl-Shift-Z _does_ remove Char formatting without switching to Chinese. Which brings me to another quirk I discovered the other day. Just for fun, I wanted to see what happened if I used one of the 2007 default paragraph styles (up there in the "Styles Gallery") -- the set called "Paper" --, but it turns out Constantia doesn't have the accented letters I needed (Latin-Extended A), so I Modified the Style to use Gentium font. But when I used the underscore shortcut before and after a word to be made italic, it made the word Bold Italic Constantia instead of Italic Gentium! There seems to be some sort of atavistic memory that you started out with one of the preset style families even if you change its characteristics. On Feb 6, 11:22*pm, "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: That's a new one on me. I use Vista, but haven't used the IME forChinese(I toyed with it a long time ago, but got rid of it after my need to have it installed passed--I never encountered the Ctrl+Space problem--but my toying with the IME lasted less than a day). So, I don't know the level at which that is hardcoded when the IME is enabled--there are some things from other languages that are too basic for Word itself to override, so the IME thing might be too fundamental. You can, of course, reassign the ResetChar command to another keystroke... It's already assigned to Ctrl+Shift+Z, as you point out. Am I correct that that keystroke does not trigger the IME ifChineseis enabled? -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web:http://www.herbtyson.com "grammatim" wrote in message ... Is there a way to keep Ctrl-Space from being overridden by its meaning in Windows Vista? It happens to be the keyboard shortcut that is assigned automatically for switching toChinesewhen theChineseIME is installed. (I couldn't figure out why I was suddenly gettingChinesecharacter input windows!) I set the keyboard shortcut to (none) in the Regional & Language control panel, but it doesn't stick; it always reverts toChineseinstead of Reset Char. The list says that Ctrl-Shift-Z is also Reset Char. On Feb 6, 7:37 pm, "Herb Tyson [MVP]" wrote: Not 100% sure what you're looking for... however, Ctrl+Space removes any direct character formatting, while Ctrl+Q removes any direct paragraph formatting. There are essentially two style elements (ignoring list and table styles) at any point--paragraph style and character style. Ctrl+Space resets the character formatting so that the only formatting applied is supplied by the current character style (whatever it might be, although it's usually Default Paragraph Font). Ctrl+Q resets the paragraph formatting so that the only paragraph formatting is supplied by the current paragraph style. I suspect that Ctrl+Space is what you're looking for, but I found your discussion a bit hard to follow. Hope this helps... -- Herb Tyson MS MVP Author of the Word 2007 Bible Blog:http://word2007bible.herbtyson.com Web:http://www.herbtyson.com "Zhiroc" wrote in message ... I knew it was simple, thanks. However, I also think it might not be the correct way for this to be done, which is part of the reason I didn't think of it... In my mind, there is a distinct difference between "removing an override" and "setting the override to the current default". The reason is that it can lead to unsuspected behavior. Say I have a generic Heading style that I use as a parent style, and I set a child Heading2 style to a different font size. Just because I select the same font size as the parent does not necessarily mean that I now want it to track the parent's changes. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Change the font to the one used by Normal.-- |
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I was able to make it work with the following steps (Office 2010): 1. Select some text you want to style 2. CTRL+Space to clear the character style (this is also available as a button at Home » Styles » bottom right button » Style inspector / middle button at the bottom, which brings up a small dialog where you can clear each styling separately) 3. Make formatting changes in the document 4. Find the style you want in either Quick Styles or the Styles tool window. 5. Right click the style and Update from Match Selection 6. Double check that all, but your wanted formats are applied via Modify. Last edited by TWiStErRob : July 25th 16 at 06:28 PM |
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