[Ciarava]

Allmost all of my users who have upgraded to word 2007 are asking me how to
get anything done with it.
Is there a classic interface? For now I am unistalling and giving them
openoffice- which would be cheaper anyway. And
frankly, its more than enough for them. MS may have finally given open
source a new open door, as they are forcing a disasterous bloated product
that maybe 5% of their users can capitalize on. If they were half smart
they would have a light version of word for the majosrity of users.

Ciao

[JoAnn Paules]

No, there is no classic view. Had your users read *anything* in the news or
on Microsoft's site they would have known about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now. (And this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary and as soon as I can find the time
at home, I'm going to start teaching myself the new interface. I still have
about 16 more years until I retire. I can't afford to fall behind on job
skills.)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"Ciarava" wrote in message
...
Allmost all of my users who have upgraded to word 2007 are asking me how
to get anything done with it.
Is there a classic interface? For now I am unistalling and giving them
openoffice- which would be cheaper anyway. And
frankly, its more than enough for them. MS may have finally given open
source a new open door, as they are forcing a disasterous bloated product
that maybe 5% of their users can capitalize on. If they were half smart
they would have a light version of word for the majosrity of users.

Ciao

[Ciarava]

Well, that may have been true, but honestly, I cant see any reason for these
small business users to cling to MS.
The software code is bloated and it tends to be buggy and insecure out of
the box.
I have been taken by surprise on how good open office is. We have already
shelved it-and my users love openoffice -especially the price; maybe
linux well be next; and we can be rid of M$


Cia
"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
No, there is no classic view. Had your users read *anything* in the news
or on Microsoft's site they would have known about the new ribbon
interface. Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is
now. (And this comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at
first. I understand why the changes were necessary and as soon as I can
find the time at home, I'm going to start teaching myself the new
interface. I still have about 16 more years until I retire. I can't afford
to fall behind on job skills.)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"Ciarava" wrote in message
...
Allmost all of my users who have upgraded to word 2007 are asking me how
to get anything done with it.
Is there a classic interface? For now I am unistalling and giving them
openoffice- which would be cheaper anyway. And
frankly, its more than enough for them. MS may have finally given open
source a new open door, as they are forcing a disasterous bloated product
that maybe 5% of their users can capitalize on. If they were half smart
they would have a light version of word for the majosrity of users.

Ciao

[JoAnn Paules]

That's the nice thing about it - you are not required to buy Microsoft
products. On the other hand, if you work outside of the home (for someone
else) and your workplace uses Office, learning how to use it is the key to
survival.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375





"Ciarava" wrote in message
...
Well, that may have been true, but honestly, I cant see any reason for
these small business users to cling to MS.
The software code is bloated and it tends to be buggy and insecure out of
the box.
I have been taken by surprise on how good open office is. We have
already shelved it-and my users love openoffice -especially the price;
maybe linux well be next; and we can be rid of M$


Cia
"JoAnn Paules" wrote in message
...
No, there is no classic view. Had your users read *anything* in the news
or on Microsoft's site they would have known about the new ribbon
interface. Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is
now. (And this comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at
first. I understand why the changes were necessary and as soon as I can
find the time at home, I'm going to start teaching myself the new
interface. I still have about 16 more years until I retire. I can't
afford to fall behind on job skills.)

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"Ciarava" wrote in message
...
Allmost all of my users who have upgraded to word 2007 are asking me how
to get anything done with it.
Is there a classic interface? For now I am unistalling and giving them
openoffice- which would be cheaper anyway. And
frankly, its more than enough for them. MS may have finally given open
source a new open door, as they are forcing a disasterous bloated
product that maybe 5% of their users can capitalize on. If they were
half smart they would have a light version of word for the majosrity of
users.

Ciao

[Stan Brown]

Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:38:00 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now. (And this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary

Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/

[JoAnn Paules]

Things were added and changed over the years. There are commands that were
just kind of tossed in wherever. Especially "Tools". Aren't they all tools?
And some of the menus had submenus that had submenus. They did what they
could to try to make commands easier to access.


--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375



"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:38:00 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now. (And
this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary

Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/

[Bob Buckland ?:-\)]

Hi Stan,

Part of the reasoning for the new Ribbon interface was that folks would ask for 'new' features in Word, Excel, et al that were, in
some cases already there, just hard to either find or recognize
For more on the 'why' and the design you may want to look through the entries of the MS Office 2007 design team blog at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv...28/563007.aspx
==========
"Stan Brown" wrote in message t...
Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
--

Bob Buckland ?:-)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

See the "Why the New UI?" series of blog entries at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archiv..._/default.aspx

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:38:00 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now. (And
this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary

Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/

[Stan Brown]

Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:06:09 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:38:00 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now. (And
this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary

Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

Things were added and changed over the years. There are commands that were
just kind of tossed in wherever. Especially "Tools". Aren't they all tools?
And some of the menus had submenus that had submenus. They did what they
could to try to make commands easier to access.

Thank you. Thanks also to Suzanne for posting the blog link. I've
read through all 8 parts and I'm now prepared to give the new UI an
open-minded trial. :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/

[JoAnn Paules]

I wasn't thrilled with the idea of learning Word, etc all over again
either...at first. I have finally accepted the fact that my options are to
learn it or fall behind. I have about 16 more years until I can retire. I
can't afford to stagnate at this point.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:06:09 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:38:00 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now.
(And
this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary

Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

Things were added and changed over the years. There are commands that
were
just kind of tossed in wherever. Especially "Tools". Aren't they all
tools?
And some of the menus had submenus that had submenus. They did what they
could to try to make commands easier to access.

Thank you. Thanks also to Suzanne for posting the blog link. I've
read through all 8 parts and I'm now prepared to give the new UI an
open-minded trial. :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I found Jensen very persuasive, and it's easy to get excited about the new
UI, not so easy to get used to it, though!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:06:09 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:38:00 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now.
(And
this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary

Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

Things were added and changed over the years. There are commands that
were
just kind of tossed in wherever. Especially "Tools". Aren't they all
tools?
And some of the menus had submenus that had submenus. They did what they
could to try to make commands easier to access.

Thank you. Thanks also to Suzanne for posting the blog link. I've
read through all 8 parts and I'm now prepared to give the new UI an
open-minded trial. :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

I'll be finding that out for myself in a couple of weeks. I've got my
helpful books near my fingertips. It's going to be an interesting spring.
:-)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I found Jensen very persuasive, and it's easy to get excited about the new
UI, not so easy to get used to it, though!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup
so
all may benefit.

"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:06:09 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
"Stan Brown" wrote in message
t...
Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:38:00 -0500 from JoAnn Paules
:
about the new ribbon interface.
Since it's not going to change, the time to start learning is now.
(And
this
comes from someone who screamed bloody murder about it at first. I
understand why the changes were necessary

Out of curiosity, why were the changes necessary?

I haven't tried Word 2007, but I've tried Excel 2007 at work and I
hate the new interface. I'll eventually get used to it, of course,
but I'm curious why you characterize it as "necessary".

Things were added and changed over the years. There are commands that
were
just kind of tossed in wherever. Especially "Tools". Aren't they all
tools?
And some of the menus had submenus that had submenus. They did what
they
could to try to make commands easier to access.

Thank you. Thanks also to Suzanne for posting the blog link. I've
read through all 8 parts and I'm now prepared to give the new UI an
open-minded trial. :-)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/