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Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my document so
that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells me that I can
select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT option. When I do
this, however, the style of the text is changed to match a heading style
based on the level I choose for this particular entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I only
want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of contents. Is there
a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change the font size or
style?


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You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my document
so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells me that I can
select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT option. When I do
this, however, the style of the text is changed to match a heading style
based on the level I choose for this particular entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I only
want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of contents. Is
there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change the font
size or style?




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Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references portion
of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
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You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my document
so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells me that I can
select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT option. When I
do this, however, the style of the text is changed to match a heading
style based on the level I choose for this particular entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change the
font size or style?






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I haven't used these new features in Word 2007, but the only way to "add
text" to a TOC is to either mark an entry with a TC field or format the
paragraph with a heading style that will automatically be included. When you
apply the heading style, you apply its formatting. If you don't like that
formatting, you can modify the style.

What you're seeing is part of the continuing effort of MS to dumb down Word
and make it "easier to use." Ah, users don't know how to create a TOC in a
Word document because they don't use heading styles. So we'll encourage them
to use heading styles by applying them automatically when they tell us they
want this text in the TOC. This is the same reasoning whereby paragraphs
formatted like headings were AutoFormatted as headings and paragraphs meant
to be Body Text suddenly appeared in the Document Map, much to users'
confusion and consternation.

The bottom line is that, if you want control over your document, it's
sometimes better to use old-fashioned methods and not take the easy way out!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references
portion of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the
document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my
document so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells me
that I can select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT
option. When I do this, however, the style of the text is changed to
match a heading style based on the level I choose for this particular
entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change the
font size or style?









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So I'm not the only one going crazy, huh? I don't mind using "the
old-fashioned methods," but they seem to make it impossible to figure out
those "old-fashioned methods" without the help of people like you. I'm
eager to try the Alt+Shift+O method tomorrow at my 2007 workstation.




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I haven't used these new features in Word 2007, but the only way to "add
text" to a TOC is to either mark an entry with a TC field or format the
paragraph with a heading style that will automatically be included. When
you
apply the heading style, you apply its formatting. If you don't like that
formatting, you can modify the style.

What you're seeing is part of the continuing effort of MS to dumb down
Word and make it "easier to use." Ah, users don't know how to create a TOC
in a Word document because they don't use heading styles. So we'll
encourage them to use heading styles by applying them automatically when
they tell us they want this text in the TOC. This is the same reasoning
whereby paragraphs formatted like headings were AutoFormatted as headings
and paragraphs meant to be Body Text suddenly appeared in the Document
Map, much to users' confusion and consternation.

The bottom line is that, if you want control over your document, it's
sometimes better to use old-fashioned methods and not take the easy way
out!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references
portion of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the
document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my
document so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells me
that I can select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT
option. When I do this, however, the style of the text is changed to
match a heading style based on the level I choose for this particular
entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change the
font size or style?













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Just wanted to let you know that I tried several of the options provided to
me for marking my own entries for a table of contents. The one that seems
to work the best (i.e. doesn't mess with document formatting) seems to be
the TC field option. My table of contents FINALLY came out looking the way
I wanted it to, and the document remains untouched.

Thanks so much for all your help.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I haven't used these new features in Word 2007, but the only way to "add
text" to a TOC is to either mark an entry with a TC field or format the
paragraph with a heading style that will automatically be included. When
you
apply the heading style, you apply its formatting. If you don't like that
formatting, you can modify the style.

What you're seeing is part of the continuing effort of MS to dumb down
Word and make it "easier to use." Ah, users don't know how to create a TOC
in a Word document because they don't use heading styles. So we'll
encourage them to use heading styles by applying them automatically when
they tell us they want this text in the TOC. This is the same reasoning
whereby paragraphs formatted like headings were AutoFormatted as headings
and paragraphs meant to be Body Text suddenly appeared in the Document
Map, much to users' confusion and consternation.

The bottom line is that, if you want control over your document, it's
sometimes better to use old-fashioned methods and not take the easy way
out!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references
portion of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the
document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my
document so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells me
that I can select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT
option. When I do this, however, the style of the text is changed to
match a heading style based on the level I choose for this particular
entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change the
font size or style?











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Glad you finally got it sorted. Sometimes you have to be very devious to get
the TOC you require.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Just wanted to let you know that I tried several of the options provided
to me for marking my own entries for a table of contents. The one that
seems to work the best (i.e. doesn't mess with document formatting) seems
to be the TC field option. My table of contents FINALLY came out looking
the way I wanted it to, and the document remains untouched.

Thanks so much for all your help.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I haven't used these new features in Word 2007, but the only way to "add
text" to a TOC is to either mark an entry with a TC field or format the
paragraph with a heading style that will automatically be included. When
you
apply the heading style, you apply its formatting. If you don't like that
formatting, you can modify the style.

What you're seeing is part of the continuing effort of MS to dumb down
Word and make it "easier to use." Ah, users don't know how to create a
TOC in a Word document because they don't use heading styles. So we'll
encourage them to use heading styles by applying them automatically when
they tell us they want this text in the TOC. This is the same reasoning
whereby paragraphs formatted like headings were AutoFormatted as headings
and paragraphs meant to be Body Text suddenly appeared in the Document
Map, much to users' confusion and consternation.

The bottom line is that, if you want control over your document, it's
sometimes better to use old-fashioned methods and not take the easy way
out!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references
portion of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the
document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the
TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my
document so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells
me
that I can select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT
option. When I do this, however, the style of the text is changed to
match a heading style based on the level I choose for this particular
entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change
the
font size or style?














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Final solution: Because I got so tired of the complex gyrations to get text
marked for a table of contents, I ended up opening my document in Word 2003.
I was able to easily mark my text entries and create my TOC. When I opened
the document in Word 2007, everything seems to be okay. I was able to
update the TOC page number as the document was edited.

Is there a good place to submit a "suggestion" to Microsoft that they return
the TOC functionality to earlier versions???




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Glad you finally got it sorted. Sometimes you have to be very devious to
get the TOC you require.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Just wanted to let you know that I tried several of the options provided
to me for marking my own entries for a table of contents. The one that
seems to work the best (i.e. doesn't mess with document formatting) seems
to be the TC field option. My table of contents FINALLY came out looking
the way I wanted it to, and the document remains untouched.

Thanks so much for all your help.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I haven't used these new features in Word 2007, but the only way to "add
text" to a TOC is to either mark an entry with a TC field or format the
paragraph with a heading style that will automatically be included. When
you
apply the heading style, you apply its formatting. If you don't like
that
formatting, you can modify the style.

What you're seeing is part of the continuing effort of MS to dumb down
Word and make it "easier to use." Ah, users don't know how to create a
TOC in a Word document because they don't use heading styles. So we'll
encourage them to use heading styles by applying them automatically when
they tell us they want this text in the TOC. This is the same reasoning
whereby paragraphs formatted like headings were AutoFormatted as
headings and paragraphs meant to be Body Text suddenly appeared in the
Document Map, much to users' confusion and consternation.

The bottom line is that, if you want control over your document, it's
sometimes better to use old-fashioned methods and not take the easy way
out!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my
Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references
portion of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the
document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you
want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the
TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my
document so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells
me
that I can select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT
option. When I do this, however, the style of the text is changed to
match a heading style based on the level I choose for this particular
entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of
contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change
the
font size or style?
















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I should have added that I am making the switch to 2007 okay. The learning
curve is steeper than I anticipated, but I'm not complaining. Just some
things like this TOC text marking have definitely taken a step backwards.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Glad you finally got it sorted. Sometimes you have to be very devious to
get the TOC you require.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Just wanted to let you know that I tried several of the options provided
to me for marking my own entries for a table of contents. The one that
seems to work the best (i.e. doesn't mess with document formatting) seems
to be the TC field option. My table of contents FINALLY came out looking
the way I wanted it to, and the document remains untouched.

Thanks so much for all your help.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I haven't used these new features in Word 2007, but the only way to "add
text" to a TOC is to either mark an entry with a TC field or format the
paragraph with a heading style that will automatically be included. When
you
apply the heading style, you apply its formatting. If you don't like
that
formatting, you can modify the style.

What you're seeing is part of the continuing effort of MS to dumb down
Word and make it "easier to use." Ah, users don't know how to create a
TOC in a Word document because they don't use heading styles. So we'll
encourage them to use heading styles by applying them automatically when
they tell us they want this text in the TOC. This is the same reasoning
whereby paragraphs formatted like headings were AutoFormatted as
headings and paragraphs meant to be Body Text suddenly appeared in the
Document Map, much to users' confusion and consternation.

The bottom line is that, if you want control over your document, it's
sometimes better to use old-fashioned methods and not take the easy way
out!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my
Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references
portion of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the
document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you
want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the
TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my
document so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells
me
that I can select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT
option. When I do this, however, the style of the text is changed to
match a heading style based on the level I choose for this particular
entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document. I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of
contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change
the
font size or style?
















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I haven't actually tried it, but I get the impression that the option to
"Mark text for the TOC" does something different from either just applying a
heading style OR inserting a TC field, either of which is reasonably
straightforward.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Final solution: Because I got so tired of the complex gyrations to get
text marked for a table of contents, I ended up opening my document in
Word 2003. I was able to easily mark my text entries and create my TOC.
When I opened the document in Word 2007, everything seems to be okay. I
was able to update the TOC page number as the document was edited.

Is there a good place to submit a "suggestion" to Microsoft that they
return the TOC functionality to earlier versions???




"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
Glad you finally got it sorted. Sometimes you have to be very devious to
get the TOC you require.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Just wanted to let you know that I tried several of the options provided
to me for marking my own entries for a table of contents. The one that
seems to work the best (i.e. doesn't mess with document formatting)
seems to be the TC field option. My table of contents FINALLY came out
looking the way I wanted it to, and the document remains untouched.

Thanks so much for all your help.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
I haven't used these new features in Word 2007, but the only way to "add
text" to a TOC is to either mark an entry with a TC field or format the
paragraph with a heading style that will automatically be included.
When you
apply the heading style, you apply its formatting. If you don't like
that
formatting, you can modify the style.

What you're seeing is part of the continuing effort of MS to dumb down
Word and make it "easier to use." Ah, users don't know how to create a
TOC in a Word document because they don't use heading styles. So we'll
encourage them to use heading styles by applying them automatically
when they tell us they want this text in the TOC. This is the same
reasoning whereby paragraphs formatted like headings were AutoFormatted
as headings and paragraphs meant to be Body Text suddenly appeared in
the Document Map, much to users' confusion and consternation.

The bottom line is that, if you want control over your document, it's
sometimes better to use old-fashioned methods and not take the easy way
out!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Suzanne

Thanks for the information. I'll try it tomorrow when I am at my
Office
2007 machine. Any reason why the ADD TEXT button in the references
portion of the ribbon would change the style of the font within the
document?



"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote in message
...
You can use TC fields as in previous versions. Select the text you
want
included and press Alt+Shift+O. Choose the appropriate level. In the
TOC
Options dialog, check the box for Table Entry Fields.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

"BK" wrote in message
...
Using Word 2007 and want to mark some specific phrases within my
document so that they appear in the table of contents. "Help" tells
me
that I can select the text I want to include and click the ADD TEXT
option. When I do this, however, the style of the text is changed to
match a heading style based on the level I choose for this
particular
entry.

I do not want to change the style of the text within the document.
I
only want to mark it so that it will show up in the table of
contents.
Is there a step I am missing that will mark the text but NOT change
the
font size or style?



















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