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Vicki
 
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I recently created a Master document and inserted four other documents to be
subdocuments of the Master document.

I then merged two smaller subdocuments to be one subdocument, but later on,
I then decided that I didn't want them merged, but when I selected the
unsplit option, I was unable to unmerge (split) them to become two individual
subdocuments.

Has anyone experience this before and know the answer?...
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Most of the people posting here donąt know much about master documents,
because:

Why Master Documents corrupt:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm

How to recover a Master Document:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm

Steve Hudson [Word Heretic] on how to make Master Documents work safely:
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html

That third link might help you out, or Word Heretic might come along.


On 3/30/05 3:29 AM, "Vicki" wrote:

I recently created a Master document and inserted four other documents to be
subdocuments of the Master document.

I then merged two smaller subdocuments to be one subdocument, but later on,
I then decided that I didn't want them merged, but when I selected the
unsplit option, I was unable to unmerge (split) them to become two individual
subdocuments.

Has anyone experience this before and know the answer?...


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Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/
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G'day "Vicki" ,

You need to Maggie your sub-documents, delete the Master and recreate
it. By using Masters in the intuitive way, you have in fact ruined
your documents. By no means is this your fault, so don't go blame
yourself, it is the terrible way in which MS implemented masters and
subs.

Please see my article at
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html

for a tested, working method to survive Master documents.

To Maggie your documents, cut and paste everything except the last
paragraph mark in each section to a new document.


Steve Hudson - Word Heretic

steve from wordheretic.com (Email replies require payment)
Without prejudice


Vicki reckoned:

I recently created a Master document and inserted four other documents to be
subdocuments of the Master document.

I then merged two smaller subdocuments to be one subdocument, but later on,
I then decided that I didn't want them merged, but when I selected the
unsplit option, I was unable to unmerge (split) them to become two individual
subdocuments.

Has anyone experience this before and know the answer?...


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G'day Daiya Mitchell ,

LOL - we posted at the same time hehehehehe

Steve Hudson - Word Heretic

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Without prejudice


Daiya Mitchell reckoned:

....

That third link might help you out, or Word Heretic might come along.


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Noticed use of the term "maggie". Curious as to the origin of the term, and
even more curious about what Word does (or doesn't do) when the last
paragraph marked isn't selected during a cut/paste. TIA, Rich

"Word Heretic" wrote:

G'day "Vicki" ,

You need to Maggie your sub-documents, delete the Master and recreate
it. By using Masters in the intuitive way, you have in fact ruined
your documents. By no means is this your fault, so don't go blame
yourself, it is the terrible way in which MS implemented masters and
subs.

Please see my article at
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html

for a tested, working method to survive Master documents.

To Maggie your documents, cut and paste everything except the last
paragraph mark in each section to a new document.


Steve Hudson - Word Heretic

steve from wordheretic.com (Email replies require payment)
Without prejudice


Vicki reckoned:

I recently created a Master document and inserted four other documents to be
subdocuments of the Master document.

I then merged two smaller subdocuments to be one subdocument, but later on,
I then decided that I didn't want them merged, but when I selected the
unsplit option, I was unable to unmerge (split) them to become two individual
subdocuments.

Has anyone experience this before and know the answer?...





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G'day Daiya

Many thanks for your help, these links are great and have helped heaps!
Thank you!


"Daiya Mitchell" wrote:

Most of the people posting here donÂąt know much about master documents,
because:

Why Master Documents corrupt:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ocsCorrupt.htm

How to recover a Master Document:
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...MasterDocs.htm

Steve Hudson [Word Heretic] on how to make Master Documents work safely:
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html

That third link might help you out, or Word Heretic might come along.


On 3/30/05 3:29 AM, "Vicki" wrote:

I recently created a Master document and inserted four other documents to be
subdocuments of the Master document.

I then merged two smaller subdocuments to be one subdocument, but later on,
I then decided that I didn't want them merged, but when I selected the
unsplit option, I was unable to unmerge (split) them to become two individual
subdocuments.

Has anyone experience this before and know the answer?...


--
Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/
What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/


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G'day Steve

Your article is great and exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!



"Word Heretic" wrote:

G'day "Vicki" ,

You need to Maggie your sub-documents, delete the Master and recreate
it. By using Masters in the intuitive way, you have in fact ruined
your documents. By no means is this your fault, so don't go blame
yourself, it is the terrible way in which MS implemented masters and
subs.

Please see my article at
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html

for a tested, working method to survive Master documents.

To Maggie your documents, cut and paste everything except the last
paragraph mark in each section to a new document.


Steve Hudson - Word Heretic

steve from wordheretic.com (Email replies require payment)
Without prejudice


Vicki reckoned:

I recently created a Master document and inserted four other documents to be
subdocuments of the Master document.

I then merged two smaller subdocuments to be one subdocument, but later on,
I then decided that I didn't want them merged, but when I selected the
unsplit option, I was unable to unmerge (split) them to become two individual
subdocuments.

Has anyone experience this before and know the answer?...



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G'day "Rich" ,

It is named after Maggie Secara from the Word PC-L Mailing list, who
championed this method as a general cure-all for Word Happenning...

The last para mark in a section contains many orphaned, and other
forms of corrupt, objects. If Word cant work out what to do with
something, it sticks it on the last para mark. Additionally, many
objects live there normally (style settings, tab settings, section
layout) so there is a greater chance of one of them corrupting than
anywhere else.

Steve Hudson - Word Heretic

steve from wordheretic.com (Email replies require payment)
Without prejudice


Rich reckoned:

Noticed use of the term "maggie". Curious as to the origin of the term, and
even more curious about what Word does (or doesn't do) when the last
paragraph marked isn't selected during a cut/paste. TIA, Rich

"Word Heretic" wrote:

G'day "Vicki" ,

You need to Maggie your sub-documents, delete the Master and recreate
it. By using Masters in the intuitive way, you have in fact ruined
your documents. By no means is this your fault, so don't go blame
yourself, it is the terrible way in which MS implemented masters and
subs.

Please see my article at
http://www.techwr-l.com/techwhirl/ma...dhomepage.html

for a tested, working method to survive Master documents.

To Maggie your documents, cut and paste everything except the last
paragraph mark in each section to a new document.


Steve Hudson - Word Heretic

steve from wordheretic.com (Email replies require payment)
Without prejudice


Vicki reckoned:

I recently created a Master document and inserted four other documents to be
subdocuments of the Master document.

I then merged two smaller subdocuments to be one subdocument, but later on,
I then decided that I didn't want them merged, but when I selected the
unsplit option, I was unable to unmerge (split) them to become two individual
subdocuments.

Has anyone experience this before and know the answer?...




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