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First page header/footer appearing on second page as well!
I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically
centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is vertically top-justified and has a header/footer. I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break (NEXT PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page header" and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section 1" and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section 2-." What am I doing wrong? Thanks!! Josh |
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The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section
break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break, then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "JoshMandel" wrote in message ... I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is vertically top-justified and has a header/footer. I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break (NEXT PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page header" and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section 1" and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section 2-." What am I doing wrong? Thanks!! Josh |
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Hi, Susan,
Many thanks for the response! Here's the problem. If I create the first page (vertical alignment=center, different first page), type the first page text, and put in a simple hard page break to create the second page, and then change this second page to vertical alignment=top, a third page is suddenly created. The third page has the correct attributes, but the second page has the first-page header. Obviously I'm still doing something wrong. Many thanks for any additional clarification! --Josh "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break, then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "JoshMandel" wrote in message ... I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is vertically top-justified and has a header/footer. I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break (NEXT PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page header" and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section 1" and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section 2-." What am I doing wrong? Thanks!! Josh |
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You can't apply Vertical Alignment to a page, only to a section. So Word is
probably inserting a Next Page Section Break for you (Normal View would show this automatically, Print Layout view won't). For your original request--type the page 1 text, insert a Next Page Section Break. Set Vertical Alignment for Section 1 only. Pages 2 onward should be Section 2, and since you don't say the header/footer is changing in Section 2, you don't need a first page header anywhere, so that all of Section 2 will have the same h/f. You do need to unlink the section 2 headers from section 1, so that section 1 will have blank h/f. But you automatically can get a different first page by unlinking multiple sections--the different first page setting only applies *within* a section. Separate alternative approach: Only one section, use a blank First Page Header for the first page, and vertically align the text on the first page manually, following it up with a manual page break to start the second page. There are various approaches to manual vertical alignment, but Space Before via Format | Paragraph is better than hitting enter multiple times. General principles are explained, with screenshots, in this articles: http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm PS. It's Suzanne. On 7/25/05 9:14 AM, "JoshMandel" wrote: Hi, Susan, Many thanks for the response! Here's the problem. If I create the first page (vertical alignment=center, different first page), type the first page text, and put in a simple hard page break to create the second page, and then change this second page to vertical alignment=top, a third page is suddenly created. The third page has the correct attributes, but the second page has the first-page header. Obviously I'm still doing something wrong. Many thanks for any additional clarification! --Josh "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break, then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "JoshMandel" wrote in message ... I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is vertically top-justified and has a header/footer. I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break (NEXT PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page header" and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section 1" and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section 2-." What am I doing wrong? Thanks!! Josh -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/ What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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Thank you kindly, Daiya...I'll give it a try. I appreciate all the
clarification. And to Suzanne, wherever you a I apologize for mangling your name! Best regards, Josh "Daiya Mitchell" wrote: You can't apply Vertical Alignment to a page, only to a section. So Word is probably inserting a Next Page Section Break for you (Normal View would show this automatically, Print Layout view won't). For your original request--type the page 1 text, insert a Next Page Section Break. Set Vertical Alignment for Section 1 only. Pages 2 onward should be Section 2, and since you don't say the header/footer is changing in Section 2, you don't need a first page header anywhere, so that all of Section 2 will have the same h/f. You do need to unlink the section 2 headers from section 1, so that section 1 will have blank h/f. But you automatically can get a different first page by unlinking multiple sections--the different first page setting only applies *within* a section. Separate alternative approach: Only one section, use a blank First Page Header for the first page, and vertically align the text on the first page manually, following it up with a manual page break to start the second page. There are various approaches to manual vertical alignment, but Space Before via Format | Paragraph is better than hitting enter multiple times. General principles are explained, with screenshots, in this articles: http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...rontMatter.htm PS. It's Suzanne. On 7/25/05 9:14 AM, "JoshMandel" wrote: Hi, Susan, Many thanks for the response! Here's the problem. If I create the first page (vertical alignment=center, different first page), type the first page text, and put in a simple hard page break to create the second page, and then change this second page to vertical alignment=top, a third page is suddenly created. The third page has the correct attributes, but the second page has the first-page header. Obviously I'm still doing something wrong. Many thanks for any additional clarification! --Josh "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: The section break is what you're doing wrong. You don't need the section break when you use "Different first page." When you insert a section break, then the next page becomes the first page of a new section, so of course it gets the First Page/Header Footer as well. For more, see http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/HeaderFooter.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "JoshMandel" wrote in message ... I'm trying to create a document in which the first page is vertically centered and has no header/footer, and from the second page onward, is vertically top-justified and has a header/footer. I'm doing a page setup for the first page that calls for "different header/footer" and vertical centering. Then I'm doing a Section Break (NEXT PAGE) and top-justifying it vertically. But then, when I look at my header/footer, both the first and second pages contain a "first-page header" and "first-page footer." The first-page header/footer are marked "section 1" and the second-page header/footer are marked "First-page header -section 2-." What am I doing wrong? Thanks!! Josh -- Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/ MacWord Tips: http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/ What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ |
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