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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them
increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there? |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
"The Office 2007 Ribbon Overview"
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/pr...774021033.aspx The Windows 7 RC supports all versions of Word going back to Word 97, so it's probably safe to assume the same support when Windows 7 is officially released (in October.) Believe it or not, there are people - like me - who think the ribbon is a brilliant idea long overdue. If you want to stick with the menu system, you have several perfectly good alternatives: * Use an older version of Word. * Install a third-party utility that converts ribbons back to menus. (You'll find such software with a web search.) * Use another word processor. For example, WordPerfect is still around and still an outstanding product. A free alternative is OpenOffice (although it plans to adopt a ribbon interface.) If I may make a suggestion: Rather than adopt a knee-jerk reaction, spend a few days with the ribbon. You may surprise yourself and end up liking it. I surprised myself the same way. Okay, one last suggestion: Consider that you are asking your question in a public newsgroup made up of your fellow users, who volunteer their knowledge and experience. Seeing as nobody is under any obligation to respond to your question, try being a little less sarcastic next time. Daddy "Judy" wrote in message ... As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there? |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
In short, I believe the idea is that it should be easier to locate commands
with a less hierarchical structure. Note that in 2007, you can add buttons that run macros to the Quick Access Toolbar: Click the Office button, and click Word Options. In the Customize category, set "Choose commands from" to "Macros" and then just click the Add button. You can use the Modify button to choose from a selection of symbols for the button. If you haven't already done that, you may also want to select "Show Quick Access Toolbar below the Ribbon" before clicking OK. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Judy" wrote in message ... As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there? |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
I have no quarrel with the ribbon. It’s impressively elegant.
I have concerns about toolbars. I keep reading that toolbars are absent from Word 2007 except for the Quick Access Toolbar. Only now, after Stefan Blom’s kind input, do I realize that it’s possible to add user macros to it. But suppose I have 10 documents, each with 5 unique macros, in addition to 24 general purpose macros stored in Normal.dotm. Do I now add 50 extra document- specific macros to the Quick Access Toolbar? Previously I had a toolbar for Normal.dot macros which opened for all documents and document specific toolbars for those documents with special needs. On Aug 19, 10:47*am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: In short, I believe the idea is that it should be easier to locate commands with a less hierarchical structure. Note that in 2007, you can add buttons that run macros to the Quick Access Toolbar: Click the Office button, and click Word Options. In the Customize category, set "Choose commands from" to "Macros" and then just click the Add button. You can use the Modify button to choose from a selection of symbols for the button. If you haven't already done that, you may also want to select "Show Quick Access Toolbar below the Ribbon" before clicking OK. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Judy" wrote in message ... As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? *Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there? |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
The simplest answer to your question is to use ALT+F8 to give you access to
all the currently available macros which you can run from the list. OR Add the command ViewMacros from the all commands group to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) to display the same dialog as above. OR You can store QAT commands specific to individual templates or documents, provided the template/document is open when you create the QAT command OR You can create a macro that provides a userform from which you can select from a more limited range of macros and add the command top call that from the QAT - For the basics, see Word MVP FAQ - Userforms http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Userforms.htm for a more in depth explanation, see http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Create_and...a_UserForm.htm OR If you have access to Word 2003, you can create custom toolbars for documents/templates in DOC format the commands for which will appear on the add-ins tab when they are used - http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm OR You can edit the ribbon to have ribbon commands available for specific documents/templates - http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm OR You can use a ribbon editor to edit the ribbon of the normal template to have you own tabs/commands - http://ribboncustomizer.com/ What you can't have are Word 2003-like toolbars, as Word 2007 does not support them. -- Graham Mayor - Word MVP My web site www.gmayor.com Word MVP web site http://word.mvps.org Judy wrote: I have no quarrel with the ribbon. It’s impressively elegant. I have concerns about toolbars. I keep reading that toolbars are absent from Word 2007 except for the Quick Access Toolbar. Only now, after Stefan Blom’s kind input, do I realize that it’s possible to add user macros to it. But suppose I have 10 documents, each with 5 unique macros, in addition to 24 general purpose macros stored in Normal.dotm. Do I now add 50 extra document- specific macros to the Quick Access Toolbar? Previously I had a toolbar for Normal.dot macros which opened for all documents and document specific toolbars for those documents with special needs. On Aug 19, 10:47 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: In short, I believe the idea is that it should be easier to locate commands with a less hierarchical structure. Note that in 2007, you can add buttons that run macros to the Quick Access Toolbar: Click the Office button, and click Word Options. In the Customize category, set "Choose commands from" to "Macros" and then just click the Add button. You can use the Modify button to choose from a selection of symbols for the button. If you haven't already done that, you may also want to select "Show Quick Access Toolbar below the Ribbon" before clicking OK. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Judy" wrote in message ... As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there? |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
These are all concerns that we raised with MS during the beta of Word 2007.
You will be pleased to know that many - but not all - of these have been taken on board and that W2010 promises a far better implementation of the Ribbon. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP "Judy" wrote in message ... I have no quarrel with the ribbon. It’s impressively elegant. I have concerns about toolbars. I keep reading that toolbars are absent from Word 2007 except for the Quick Access Toolbar. Only now, after Stefan Blom’s kind input, do I realize that it’s possible to add user macros to it. But suppose I have 10 documents, each with 5 unique macros, in addition to 24 general purpose macros stored in Normal.dotm. Do I now add 50 extra document- specific macros to the Quick Access Toolbar? Previously I had a toolbar for Normal.dot macros which opened for all documents and document specific toolbars for those documents with special needs. On Aug 19, 10:47 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: In short, I believe the idea is that it should be easier to locate commands with a less hierarchical structure. Note that in 2007, you can add buttons that run macros to the Quick Access Toolbar: Click the Office button, and click Word Options. In the Customize category, set "Choose commands from" to "Macros" and then just click the Add button. You can use the Modify button to choose from a selection of symbols for the button. If you haven't already done that, you may also want to select "Show Quick Access Toolbar below the Ribbon" before clicking OK. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Judy" wrote in message ... As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there? |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
On Aug 23, 11:45*am, "Graham Mayor" wrote:
The simplest answer to your question is to use ALT+F8 to give you access to all the currently available macros which you can run from the list. OR Add the command ViewMacros from the all commands group to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) to display the same dialog as above. OR You can store QAT commands specific to individual templates or documents, provided the template/document is open when you create the QAT command OR You can create a macro that provides a userform from which you can select from a more limited range of macros and add the command top call that from the QAT - For the basics, see Word MVP FAQ - Userformshttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Userforms.htm for a more in depth explanation, seehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Create_and_employ_a_UserForm.htm OR If you have access to Word 2003, you can create custom toolbars for documents/templates in DOC format the commands for which will appear on the add-ins tab when they are used -http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm OR You can edit the ribbon to have ribbon commands available for specific documents/templates -http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm OR You can use a ribbon editor to edit the ribbon of the normal template to have you own tabs/commands -http://ribboncustomizer.com/ What you can't have are Word 2003-like toolbars, as Word 2007 does not support them. -- Graham Mayor - *Word MVP My web sitewww.gmayor.com Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org Judy wrote: I have no quarrel with the ribbon. It’s impressively elegant. I have concerns about toolbars. I keep reading that toolbars are absent from Word 2007 except for the Quick Access Toolbar. Only now, after Stefan Blom’s kind input, do I realize that it’s possible to add user macros to it. But suppose I have 10 documents, each with 5 unique macros, in addition to 24 general purpose macros stored in Normal.dotm. Do I now add 50 extra document- specific macros to the Quick Access Toolbar? Previously I had a toolbar for Normal.dot macros which opened for all documents and document specific toolbars for those documents with special needs. On Aug 19, 10:47 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: In short, I believe the idea is that it should be easier to locate commands with a less hierarchical structure. Note that in 2007, you can add buttons that run macros to the Quick Access Toolbar: Click the Office button, and click Word Options. In the Customize category, set "Choose commands from" to "Macros" and then just click the Add button. You can use the Modify button to choose from a selection of symbols for the button. If you haven't already done that, you may also want to select "Show Quick Access Toolbar below the Ribbon" before clicking OK. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Judy" wrote in message .... As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text Thanks so much for this extensive orientation, Graham. I compliment you on your remarkable thoroughness and clarity. Putting ViewMacros on the QAT is of some help, even if clumsier than a single click on a toolbar. For a non-techie like me the ribbon customizer looks promising, if it supports a tab of macros. If only the QAT were context sensitive, showing only icons for Normal macros and for macros from currently open documents! Perhaps the QAT wraps. Will have to load a lot of macros and see what happens. |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
On Aug 24, 11:15*pm, Judy wrote:
On Aug 23, 11:45*am, "Graham Mayor" wrote: The simplest answer to your question is to use ALT+F8 to give you access to all the currently available macros which you can run from the list. OR Add the command ViewMacros from the all commands group to the QAT (Quick Access Toolbar) to display the same dialog as above. OR You can store QAT commands specific to individual templates or documents, provided the template/document is open when you create the QAT command OR You can create a macro that provides a userform from which you can select from a more limited range of macros and add the command top call that from the QAT - For the basics, see Word MVP FAQ - Userformshttp://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Userforms.htm for a more in depth explanation, seehttp://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Create_and_employ_a_UserForm.htm OR If you have access to Word 2003, you can create custom toolbars for documents/templates in DOC format the commands for which will appear on the add-ins tab when they are used -http://www.gmayor.com/Toolbars_in_word_2007.htm OR You can edit the ribbon to have ribbon commands available for specific documents/templates -http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Customize_Ribbon.htm OR You can use a ribbon editor to edit the ribbon of the normal template to have you own tabs/commands -http://ribboncustomizer.com/ What you can't have are Word 2003-like toolbars, as Word 2007 does not support them. -- Graham Mayor - *Word MVP My web sitewww.gmayor.com Word MVP web sitehttp://word.mvps.org Judy wrote: I have no quarrel with the ribbon. It’s impressively elegant. I have concerns about toolbars. I keep reading that toolbars are absent from Word 2007 except for the Quick Access Toolbar. Only now, after Stefan Blom’s kind input, do I realize that it’s possible to add user macros to it. But suppose I have 10 documents, each with 5 unique macros, in addition to 24 general purpose macros stored in Normal.dotm. Do I now add 50 extra document- specific macros to the Quick Access Toolbar? Previously I had a toolbar for Normal.dot macros which opened for all documents and document specific toolbars for those documents with special needs. On Aug 19, 10:47 am, "Stefan Blom" wrote: In short, I believe the idea is that it should be easier to locate commands with a less hierarchical structure. Note that in 2007, you can add buttons that run macros to the Quick Access Toolbar: Click the Office button, and click Word Options. In the Customize category, set "Choose commands from" to "Macros" and then just click the Add button. You can use the Modify button to choose from a selection of symbols for the button. If you haven't already done that, you may also want to select "Show Quick Access Toolbar below the Ribbon" before clicking OK. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Judy" wrote in message ... As friends explain it to me user toolbars with user macros on them increased productivity enormously in previous versions of Word. Yet they are lacking in Word 2007. What is MS’s explanation of this? Is there some hidden benefit that a beginner can’t perceive? Or did MS just run out of programming time and pushed the product out of the door? What version of Word is, or will be, available for Windows 7? Are toolbars restored there?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text Thanks so much for this extensive orientation, Graham. I compliment you on your remarkable thoroughness and clarity. Putting ViewMacros on the QAT is of some help, even if clumsier than a single click on a toolbar. For a non-techie like me the ribbon customizer looks promising, if it supports a tab of macros. If only the QAT were context sensitive, showing only icons for Normal macros and for macros from currently open documents! Perhaps the QAT wraps. Will have to load a lot of macros and see what happens.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Judy, Graham provided you a link if you want to dive into the waters of Ribbon customization. Here is another link that provides an example template AddIn that shows you exactly how you can add button on a new ribbon tab that calls your macros or have a menu control that drops down a list of macros to run: http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/Ribbon_Menu_Controls.htm |
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Why are toolbars missing from Word 2007?
Also note that you can attach a QAT to a template so that different
documents will have the QAT associated with its template. Clunky and no substitute for a custom menu. -- Terry Farrell - MSWord MVP - Show quoted text Thanks so much for this extensive orientation, Graham. I compliment you on your remarkable thoroughness and clarity. Putting ViewMacros on the QAT is of some help, even if clumsier than a single click on a toolbar. For a non-techie like me the ribbon customizer looks promising, if it supports a tab of macros. If only the QAT were context sensitive, showing only icons for Normal macros and for macros from currently open documents! Perhaps the QAT wraps. Will have to load a lot of macros and see what happens. |
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