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I have a specific hyphenation issue in Word 2003 and haven't been able to
find the answer in the other threads here. Hopefully someone will be able to
help me!

I have auto-hyphenation on. I need to have a word hyphenate at a specific
point. My client doesn't like words to hyphenate after the first syllable if
that syllable is only 2 letters, for example they don't like "in-vestment"
but are OK with "invest-ment." I tried using an optional hyphen after "vest"
but if the word had already hyphenated after the first syllable, the optional
hyphen had no affect.

An optional hyphen before the word, as well as one where I want the word to
break, worked but I ran into a bug with this. If the first optional hyphen
happened to end up being the last character on a line, it printed. Bad!

I also tried using ToolsLanguageSet LanguageDo not check spelling or
grammar along with an optional hyphen at the point I wanted the break, but
that didn't do it either.

I should also say that I tried these fixes with a variety of fonts, and with
both left-aligned and justified text, so I don't think my problem is related
to one of those things.

Right now, my best option is to suppress hyphenation of that word
altogether, but it's not an ideal solution. Are there any other options?

Thanks!
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You have already tried what I would have suggested:

I also tried using ToolsLanguageSet LanguageDo not check spelling or
grammar along with an optional hyphen at the point I wanted the break, but
that didn't do it either.


I do all hyphenation manually myself, so I'm not familiar with the way auto
hyphenation works, but I would have thought that formatting the Word as "Do
not check spelling or grammar" would suppress the auto hyphenation (as it
evidently does). I would not have expected that it would also suppress
manual hyphenation, but I guess that is not surprising, as there's no way
Word can really distinguish between optional hyphens it inserts and ones you
insert. The only workaround I can think of is to insert an actual hyphen;
this is risky, of course, if the document is reformatted, not to mention
that the word will be marked as misspelled.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mirajude" wrote in message
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I have a specific hyphenation issue in Word 2003 and haven't been able to
find the answer in the other threads here. Hopefully someone will be able
to
help me!

I have auto-hyphenation on. I need to have a word hyphenate at a specific
point. My client doesn't like words to hyphenate after the first syllable

if
that syllable is only 2 letters, for example they don't like "in-vestment"
but are OK with "invest-ment." I tried using an optional hyphen after

"vest"
but if the word had already hyphenated after the first syllable, the

optional
hyphen had no affect.

An optional hyphen before the word, as well as one where I want the word

to
break, worked but I ran into a bug with this. If the first optional hyphen
happened to end up being the last character on a line, it printed. Bad!

I also tried using ToolsLanguageSet LanguageDo not check spelling or
grammar along with an optional hyphen at the point I wanted the break, but
that didn't do it either.

I should also say that I tried these fixes with a variety of fonts, and

with
both left-aligned and justified text, so I don't think my problem is

related
to one of those things.

Right now, my best option is to suppress hyphenation of that word
altogether, but it's not an ideal solution. Are there any other options?

Thanks!


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Thanks for responding - at least I know I didn't miss anything!

I was able to fix almost all of the problems by adjusting the hyphenation
zone for the file. Then I got rid of the last few by suppressing hyphenation
on those words with "Do not check spelling or grammar."


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You have already tried what I would have suggested:

I also tried using ToolsLanguageSet LanguageDo not check spelling or
grammar along with an optional hyphen at the point I wanted the break, but
that didn't do it either.


I do all hyphenation manually myself, so I'm not familiar with the way auto
hyphenation works, but I would have thought that formatting the Word as "Do
not check spelling or grammar" would suppress the auto hyphenation (as it
evidently does). I would not have expected that it would also suppress
manual hyphenation, but I guess that is not surprising, as there's no way
Word can really distinguish between optional hyphens it inserts and ones you
insert. The only workaround I can think of is to insert an actual hyphen;
this is risky, of course, if the document is reformatted, not to mention
that the word will be marked as misspelled.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mirajude" wrote in message
news
I have a specific hyphenation issue in Word 2003 and haven't been able to
find the answer in the other threads here. Hopefully someone will be able

to
help me!

I have auto-hyphenation on. I need to have a word hyphenate at a specific
point. My client doesn't like words to hyphenate after the first syllable

if
that syllable is only 2 letters, for example they don't like "in-vestment"
but are OK with "invest-ment." I tried using an optional hyphen after

"vest"
but if the word had already hyphenated after the first syllable, the

optional
hyphen had no affect.

An optional hyphen before the word, as well as one where I want the word

to
break, worked but I ran into a bug with this. If the first optional hyphen
happened to end up being the last character on a line, it printed. Bad!

I also tried using ToolsLanguageSet LanguageDo not check spelling or
grammar along with an optional hyphen at the point I wanted the break, but
that didn't do it either.

I should also say that I tried these fixes with a variety of fonts, and

with
both left-aligned and justified text, so I don't think my problem is

related
to one of those things.

Right now, my best option is to suppress hyphenation of that word
altogether, but it's not an ideal solution. Are there any other options?

Thanks!



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Of course, adjusting the hyphenation zone is exactly what is required; if I
were more familiar with the feature, I would have suggested that.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mirajude" wrote in message
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Thanks for responding - at least I know I didn't miss anything!

I was able to fix almost all of the problems by adjusting the hyphenation
zone for the file. Then I got rid of the last few by suppressing
hyphenation
on those words with "Do not check spelling or grammar."


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You have already tried what I would have suggested:

I also tried using ToolsLanguageSet LanguageDo not check spelling

or
grammar along with an optional hyphen at the point I wanted the break,

but
that didn't do it either.


I do all hyphenation manually myself, so I'm not familiar with the way

auto
hyphenation works, but I would have thought that formatting the Word as

"Do
not check spelling or grammar" would suppress the auto hyphenation (as

it
evidently does). I would not have expected that it would also suppress
manual hyphenation, but I guess that is not surprising, as there's no

way
Word can really distinguish between optional hyphens it inserts and ones

you
insert. The only workaround I can think of is to insert an actual

hyphen;
this is risky, of course, if the document is reformatted, not to mention
that the word will be marked as misspelled.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org
Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the

newsgroup so
all may benefit.

"mirajude" wrote in message
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I have a specific hyphenation issue in Word 2003 and haven't been able

to
find the answer in the other threads here. Hopefully someone will be

able
to
help me!

I have auto-hyphenation on. I need to have a word hyphenate at a

specific
point. My client doesn't like words to hyphenate after the first

syllable
if
that syllable is only 2 letters, for example they don't like

"in-vestment"
but are OK with "invest-ment." I tried using an optional hyphen after

"vest"
but if the word had already hyphenated after the first syllable, the

optional
hyphen had no affect.

An optional hyphen before the word, as well as one where I want the

word
to
break, worked but I ran into a bug with this. If the first optional

hyphen
happened to end up being the last character on a line, it printed.

Bad!

I also tried using ToolsLanguageSet LanguageDo not check spelling

or
grammar along with an optional hyphen at the point I wanted the break,

but
that didn't do it either.

I should also say that I tried these fixes with a variety of fonts,

and
with
both left-aligned and justified text, so I don't think my problem is

related
to one of those things.

Right now, my best option is to suppress hyphenation of that word
altogether, but it's not an ideal solution. Are there any other

options?

Thanks!




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