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When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not
automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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Hello Ak786,
I don't know why Microsoft Word does this. I can see though that it marks "muslim" and "islam" as spelling errors without automatically capitalizing them. The vast majority of the people posting here are not Microsoft employees (including myself). Therefore we can only speculate as to why Word does this. We also cannot get the situation addressed because of that. Microsoft employees do stop by in these newsgroups, but it can be quite some time until someone does. I would suggest to be patient with this. I'll try myself if I can't get in touch with anyone at Microsoft to get an answer to your question. This might take a few days though. I hope you understand. Patrick Schmid "Ak786" wrote in message : When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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Hello Aj786,
Let me add to my previous post. According to my Merriam-Webster Dictionary, Muslim means "an adherent of Islam" and could also be an adjective. I don't have any other dictionaries here to check against, but I believe that the religion itself is "Islam" and not "Muslim". Therefore you'd have to check the automatic capitalization against words such as "Christian", "Hindu", etc. and not "Christianity", "Hinduism", etc. However, that means that Word should capitalize "Islam", which it does not. I'll try to find out why and if it is an error whether this can be fixed in Word 2007. Patrick Schmid "Patrick Schmid" wrote in message : Hello Ak786, I don't know why Microsoft Word does this. I can see though that it marks "muslim" and "islam" as spelling errors without automatically capitalizing them. The vast majority of the people posting here are not Microsoft employees (including myself). Therefore we can only speculate as to why Word does this. We also cannot get the situation addressed because of that. Microsoft employees do stop by in these newsgroups, but it can be quite some time until someone does. I would suggest to be patient with this. I'll try myself if I can't get in touch with anyone at Microsoft to get an answer to your question. This might take a few days though. I hope you understand. Patrick Schmid "Ak786" wrote in message : When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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For what it's worth, Microsoft Word does automatically capitalize
"moslem", which was the common English spelling until maybe 10 or 15 years ago I think. Word apparently hasn't caught up with political correctness in this regard. If you feel so strongly that "muslim" should be capitalized, then I think you should type it that way to begin with as a matter of principle, or you can add a plain-text AutoCorrect entry to Word to automatically change "muslim" to "Muslim". Ak786 wrote: When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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I wouldn't describe this as racist but it does seem a little inconsistent -
if not downright bizarre. There seem to be a lot of hardcoded AutoCorrects which capitalise proper names, and many which are not capitalised but which are flagged as spelling errors with the capitalised version suggested as a correction. Amongst the latter category is "jesus". -- Enjoy, Tony "Ak786" wrote in message ... When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...id=aafdf60a-16 a3-41c8-a40a-8414b18dd267&dg=microsoft.public.word.docmanagemen t |
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"Ak786" wrote in message
... When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. Spell it with a capital yourself you lazy twerp. Or go to the media - we can all do with a good laugh... OM |
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What version of Word are you using? In Word 2003, Word does not (unless it
is the first word of the sentence) capitalize any of these words, although it does mark them as misspelled and suggest the capitalized version as a correction. If your version of Word AutoCorrects "christianity," "hinduism," or "buddhism," it is because someone has added those words as AutoCorrect entries. You can do the same, if you like, with "muslim" and "islam." You might, however, want to note that, among the suggested spelling corrections for these words are "muslin" and "island." Unless you're sure you'll never type "muslim" when you mean "muslin" or "islam" when you mean "island," you might want to hold back on adding these entries. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Ak786" wrote in message ... When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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Ah, so it is possible that there has been a conspiracy after all. I
still think that the clown should hurry off and inform the media. I suggest he start with National Review. |
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I have heard back from Microsoft on why this is happening. Word has an
AutoCorrect feature that automatically corrects text that you type. For example, Word will automatically capitalize the first letter of a sentence. It has a few other automatic correction settings to deal with such specific issues. You can find them all in Tools, Auto Correct. This dialog is language specific as you can see in the dialog title. In that dialog, you will also notice that there is a table showing certain text that should be replaced with certain other text. For example, in English (U.S.) the table tells Word to replace "abbout" automatically with "about". These are the AutoCorrect entries Suzanne referred to in her reply. As she correctly noted, none of the names of religions are in that list. If you want to have Word replace "muslim" with "Muslim" and "islam" with "Islam", you can force Word to do so by adding these pairs to that list. However, if the names of religions are not in that list, why are some still capitalized by default in Word? I don't know what the earliest version of Word that had this feature is, but Word for sure capitalizes "christianity" by default in 2003 and 2007. The explanation is the setting on the bottom of the AutoCorrect dialog: "Automatically use suggestions from the spelling checker". If that settings is checked, then Word will replace "christianity" with "Christianity", hence automatically capitalize the names of some religions, but not all. What this setting does is replace a misspelled word automatically with the suggested correct spelling, if Word can only find one suggestion. To see what I mean, type e.g.: "Is christianity". Then press the space bar. Word now automatically capitalizes the Word. Now go into Edit you'll see that Undo is now called "Undo AutoCorrect". Press it and Word will undo the capitalization of the Word and you'll see the word underlined with the typical red squiggles of a misspelled word. If you right-click on the word and see what spelling suggestions Word offers, you'll notice that it only offers one, namely the word in capitalized form. As Word was only able to find one spelling suggestion, AutoCorrect changed your misspelled word automatically into that single suggestion. As Suzanne pointed out, "muslim" and "islam" come with more than one spelling suggestion. For "muslim", Word suggests "Muslim" and "muslin", for "islam" Word suggests "Islam", "island", "slam". As there is more than one suggestion, Word does not automatically capitalize the words. Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Taoism are all words for which Word cannot determine any other possible spellings except their capital versions. Therefore it might appear that Word discriminates against Islam, whereas it just happens to be that the words are relatively short and have other possible words "nearby", meaning Word can't assume that the user just wanted the capitalized version. My contact at Microsoft has already suggested to the person who is responsible for this feature to have Word automatically capitalize a word if the only difference between the word and one of the suggestions is capitalization. It is probably too late though for this new feature to appear in Word 2007. I hope this explains why Word is behaving like that. If you have any other questions about it, please let me know. Patrick Schmid |
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Thanks for the feedback on that. Since I would never dare give AutoCorrect
permission to use suggestions from the spelling checker, I was not seeing this behavior. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Patrick Schmid" wrote in message ... I have heard back from Microsoft on why this is happening. Word has an AutoCorrect feature that automatically corrects text that you type. For example, Word will automatically capitalize the first letter of a sentence. It has a few other automatic correction settings to deal with such specific issues. You can find them all in Tools, Auto Correct. This dialog is language specific as you can see in the dialog title. In that dialog, you will also notice that there is a table showing certain text that should be replaced with certain other text. For example, in English (U.S.) the table tells Word to replace "abbout" automatically with "about". These are the AutoCorrect entries Suzanne referred to in her reply. As she correctly noted, none of the names of religions are in that list. If you want to have Word replace "muslim" with "Muslim" and "islam" with "Islam", you can force Word to do so by adding these pairs to that list. However, if the names of religions are not in that list, why are some still capitalized by default in Word? I don't know what the earliest version of Word that had this feature is, but Word for sure capitalizes "christianity" by default in 2003 and 2007. The explanation is the setting on the bottom of the AutoCorrect dialog: "Automatically use suggestions from the spelling checker". If that settings is checked, then Word will replace "christianity" with "Christianity", hence automatically capitalize the names of some religions, but not all. What this setting does is replace a misspelled word automatically with the suggested correct spelling, if Word can only find one suggestion. To see what I mean, type e.g.: "Is christianity". Then press the space bar. Word now automatically capitalizes the Word. Now go into Edit you'll see that Undo is now called "Undo AutoCorrect". Press it and Word will undo the capitalization of the Word and you'll see the word underlined with the typical red squiggles of a misspelled word. If you right-click on the word and see what spelling suggestions Word offers, you'll notice that it only offers one, namely the word in capitalized form. As Word was only able to find one spelling suggestion, AutoCorrect changed your misspelled word automatically into that single suggestion. As Suzanne pointed out, "muslim" and "islam" come with more than one spelling suggestion. For "muslim", Word suggests "Muslim" and "muslin", for "islam" Word suggests "Islam", "island", "slam". As there is more than one suggestion, Word does not automatically capitalize the words. Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Taoism are all words for which Word cannot determine any other possible spellings except their capital versions. Therefore it might appear that Word discriminates against Islam, whereas it just happens to be that the words are relatively short and have other possible words "nearby", meaning Word can't assume that the user just wanted the capitalized version. My contact at Microsoft has already suggested to the person who is responsible for this feature to have Word automatically capitalize a word if the only difference between the word and one of the suggestions is capitalization. It is probably too late though for this new feature to appear in Word 2007. I hope this explains why Word is behaving like that. If you have any other questions about it, please let me know. Patrick Schmid |
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"Ak786" wrote
or else I will go to the media. Go right ahead and make an even bigger fool of yourself. -- Bob http://www.kanyak.com |
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Thank you for that feedback, Patrick.
-- Enjoy, Tony "Patrick Schmid" wrote in message ... I have heard back from Microsoft on why this is happening. Word has an AutoCorrect feature that automatically corrects text that you type. For example, Word will automatically capitalize the first letter of a sentence. It has a few other automatic correction settings to deal with such specific issues. You can find them all in Tools, Auto Correct. This dialog is language specific as you can see in the dialog title. In that dialog, you will also notice that there is a table showing certain text that should be replaced with certain other text. For example, in English (U.S.) the table tells Word to replace "abbout" automatically with "about". These are the AutoCorrect entries Suzanne referred to in her reply. As she correctly noted, none of the names of religions are in that list. If you want to have Word replace "muslim" with "Muslim" and "islam" with "Islam", you can force Word to do so by adding these pairs to that list. However, if the names of religions are not in that list, why are some still capitalized by default in Word? I don't know what the earliest version of Word that had this feature is, but Word for sure capitalizes "christianity" by default in 2003 and 2007. The explanation is the setting on the bottom of the AutoCorrect dialog: "Automatically use suggestions from the spelling checker". If that settings is checked, then Word will replace "christianity" with "Christianity", hence automatically capitalize the names of some religions, but not all. What this setting does is replace a misspelled word automatically with the suggested correct spelling, if Word can only find one suggestion. To see what I mean, type e.g.: "Is christianity". Then press the space bar. Word now automatically capitalizes the Word. Now go into Edit you'll see that Undo is now called "Undo AutoCorrect". Press it and Word will undo the capitalization of the Word and you'll see the word underlined with the typical red squiggles of a misspelled word. If you right-click on the word and see what spelling suggestions Word offers, you'll notice that it only offers one, namely the word in capitalized form. As Word was only able to find one spelling suggestion, AutoCorrect changed your misspelled word automatically into that single suggestion. As Suzanne pointed out, "muslim" and "islam" come with more than one spelling suggestion. For "muslim", Word suggests "Muslim" and "muslin", for "islam" Word suggests "Islam", "island", "slam". As there is more than one suggestion, Word does not automatically capitalize the words. Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, Taoism are all words for which Word cannot determine any other possible spellings except their capital versions. Therefore it might appear that Word discriminates against Islam, whereas it just happens to be that the words are relatively short and have other possible words "nearby", meaning Word can't assume that the user just wanted the capitalized version. My contact at Microsoft has already suggested to the person who is responsible for this feature to have Word automatically capitalize a word if the only difference between the word and one of the suggestions is capitalization. It is probably too late though for this new feature to appear in Word 2007. I hope this explains why Word is behaving like that. If you have any other questions about it, please let me know. Patrick Schmid |
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May be because the right spelling is "Moslem" and Word is capitalizing it
correctly. But I agree with you about suggestions. When you type "muslim" there should be suggestion "Moslem". "Ak786" wrote: When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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I don't think "Moslem" has been the preferred spelling for a long time.
-- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Simeon Bodurov" wrote in message ... May be because the right spelling is "Moslem" and Word is capitalizing it correctly. But I agree with you about suggestions. When you type "muslim" there should be suggestion "Moslem". "Ak786" wrote: When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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![]() "Ak786" wrote: When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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"Rascist" is the adjective pertaining to "race", not religion;
"capitilizes" is correctly spelled "capitalizes"; why do you say "or even Hinduism"? Are you implying that Hinduism is inferior to the other religions mentioned? Please "go to the media" and expose your ignorance even further! "Ak786" wrote: When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. ---------------- This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane. http://www.microsoft.com/office/comm...ocmanagemen t |
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Hi ?B?c2Vja2xlYmVu?=,
When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. In my version of Word (2003) it's marked as "incorrect" and the spelling suggestion is capitalized. It's just not in the AutoCorrect, but it wouldn't be any big deal for you to put it there... And as a side note: I don't think "racist" is the correct descriptive term. As far as I know people of many races are Muslim. It seems to me to be racist to expect only certain races would belong to that (or any of the other listed) belief... You might accuse the software of being religiously discriminatory, but certainly not racist. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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I don't know why somebody dug this several months old thread out
again... The answer why Muslim is not automatically capitalized is because there are two alternatives spell check suggests for it (Muslim and muslin). Christianity and Judaism are automatically capitalized for the OP, because spell check only sees one alternative to the lower case spelling (the upper case one) and the AutoCorrect setting "Automatically use suggestions from the spelling checker" is on. Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP] -------------- http://pschmid.net *** Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80 Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR): http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43 *** Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote *** Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed " wrote in message news:VA.0000080e.015ba3c9@speedy: Hi ?B?c2Vja2xlYmVu?=, When I enter the word "Muslim" in lower-case in Microsoft word, it does not automatically capitilize it. However, when I enter any other faith, like Christianity, or Judaism, or even Hinduism, it automatically capitilizes the word. I would like to know why this is. I'd appreciate a quick response or else I will go to the media. In my version of Word (2003) it's marked as "incorrect" and the spelling suggestion is capitalized. It's just not in the AutoCorrect, but it wouldn't be any big deal for you to put it there... And as a side note: I don't think "racist" is the correct descriptive term. As far as I know people of many races are Muslim. It seems to me to be racist to expect only certain races would belong to that (or any of the other listed) belief... You might accuse the software of being religiously discriminatory, but certainly not racist. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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