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I am doing a quantum leap from working in WP5.1 for DOS to working in Word.
In WP I had glossary macros. For instance I had created a list of Latin phrases on Ctrl-L. All I had to do was type the initial letters of a Latin phrase and then press Ctrl-L and the phrase would appear. Would it be possible to create such macros in Word? Or, alternatively, is it possible to have separate AutoText lists allocated to different keys? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. |
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Hi Tipuana,
Microsoft's advice at the address below may be useful: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216706/en-us Basically, it describes how you can convert you existing WP glossary macros to Word AutoText entries. Cheers -- macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "Tipuana" wrote in message ... I am doing a quantum leap from working in WP5.1 for DOS to working in Word. In WP I had glossary macros. For instance I had created a list of Latin phrases on Ctrl-L. All I had to do was type the initial letters of a Latin phrase and then press Ctrl-L and the phrase would appear. Would it be possible to create such macros in Word? Or, alternatively, is it possible to have separate AutoText lists allocated to different keys? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. |
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No, sorry, this is not exactly what I wanted. This takes the WP5.1 macros
and creates a glossary list of them in AutoText. (And as I have over 3000 macros in WP, its quite a process.) It does not convert the actual glossary macros that are in WP. To go back to my example of my glossary of Latin phrases, which is called LATIN.WPM in WP, it will not convert this macro. What I actually want to do is to create new glossaries so that pressing typing €œhc€ and then pressing a key (perhaps Alt-L) it will give me honoris causa. Likewise typing the same letters €œhp€ and pressing a different key (perhaps Alt-C) will give me High Court in a list of names of courts. In other words this is like having separate AutoText lists on different keys. "macropod" wrote: Hi Tipuana, Microsoft's advice at the address below may be useful: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216706/en-us Basically, it describes how you can convert you existing WP glossary macros to Word AutoText entries. Cheers -- macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "Tipuana" wrote in message ... I am doing a quantum leap from working in WP5.1 for DOS to working in Word. In WP I had glossary macros. For instance I had created a list of Latin phrases on Ctrl-L. All I had to do was type the initial letters of a Latin phrase and then press Ctrl-L and the phrase would appear. Would it be possible to create such macros in Word? Or, alternatively, is it possible to have separate AutoText lists allocated to different keys? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. |
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Look into the AutoTextList field. You could save such a field, itself, as an
AutoText or AutoCorrect entry and attach it to a keyboard shortcut. See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/TblsFl...toTextList.htm. You may want to download the AutoTextLoader utility by Jay Freedman. You can get it at http://jay-freedman.info/autotextloader2.zip. If you can get your current macro results into a two-column table (name and result) in Word, this utility will convert it to AutoText entries. You want your AutoText entries to have names that (1) you are not likely to type by accident or when typing regular text, and (2) are at least four letters long. For instance you could start your latin phrase entries with the prefix lat- and your high court entries with hc- Here is some general info on moving from Word Perfect to Word: Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. In the (short) long term (weeks rather than years) spending the time to learn Word will save you time if you are spending any time at all (more than an hour a day) using Word. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ordPerfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...AndGotchas.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...Converters.htm http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/conc...ion/index.html for information on Word for Word Perfect users. For mo http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart2.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart1.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Number...gExplained.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm Function Keys In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this. Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys() Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True End Sub Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing. Formatting and Styles Learn about Styles - really learn! http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now regret every day of those years because although that string was still very hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you just thought you did. Converting documents Word / Word Perfect Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/...html#macroword and can be found at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas. This was prepared by Edward Mendelson. Otherwise, look at the macro from http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=212396 Use these on _copies_! As for converting documents from Word Perfect to _use_ in Word... In a word, don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term. They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the following process: In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as text files. Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your formatting to look. Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using styles, not direct formatting. Save it again. To use a template within Word, use File = New and pick your template. This will create a new document for you. Merge documents have special problems and should be recreated from text files or retyped in Word. To convert data files, consider generating labels in WP as a document, converting that to Word, and then using http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm to get a new Word data file. Note that conversions usually do create documents that look passable and print OK; the problems I'm referring to have to do with editing / making changes, that is, using the documents long-term. (See below on reusing documents vs. using templates.) Conversion back to Word Perfect: There is a problem (in addition to the ones mentioned for conversion _to_ Word) with Version 2002 (XP) and later of Word. The conversion file only works for conversion _to_ Word, not from Word to Word Perfect! Earlier versions went both ways. To fix this, you need to find the old conversion file WPFT532.CNV from a Word 97 or Word 2000 installation and copy it to your new installation, replacing the file of the same name. Note, the change making the file one-way was done as a security measure. While I don't know of any problems the old file causes, keep the new installation's file somewhere as a backup just in case. Boilerplate and Forms In WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text - boilerplate. In Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, not macros. Follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebre...s.htm#AutoText for more information on these tools. You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For more about online forms, follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian Chapman's series of articles. You may also want to look at http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFl...nesInForms.htm. Letterhead How to set up letterhead or some other document where you want one header on the first page and a different header on other pages. http://www.addbalance.com/word/headersfooters.htm This gives step-by-step instructions. (It also has the following links) Some other pages to look at: Letterhead Tips and Instructions http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm Letterhead Textboxes and Styles tutorial http://addbalance.com/word/download....StylesTutorial (for simulating different margins on different pages, among other things) Reusing Documents vs. Using templates General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing "metadata" (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm) and things like surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents. It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit each day. In the (short) long run, it will save you both time and grief. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs which is awesome! My criminal law site: http://addbalance.com --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Tipuana" wrote in message ... I am doing a quantum leap from working in WP5.1 for DOS to working in Word. In WP I had glossary macros. For instance I had created a list of Latin phrases on Ctrl-L. All I had to do was type the initial letters of a Latin phrase and then press Ctrl-L and the phrase would appear. Would it be possible to create such macros in Word? Or, alternatively, is it possible to have separate AutoText lists allocated to different keys? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. |
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Probably an underscore would work better than a dash although it involves an
extra keystroke in holding down the shift key. lat_ and hc_ -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is awesome! My criminal defense site: http://addbalance.com --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Charles Kenyon" wrote in message ... Look into the AutoTextList field. You could save such a field, itself, as an AutoText or AutoCorrect entry and attach it to a keyboard shortcut. See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/TblsFl...toTextList.htm. You may want to download the AutoTextLoader utility by Jay Freedman. You can get it at http://jay-freedman.info/autotextloader2.zip. If you can get your current macro results into a two-column table (name and result) in Word, this utility will convert it to AutoText entries. You want your AutoText entries to have names that (1) you are not likely to type by accident or when typing regular text, and (2) are at least four letters long. For instance you could start your latin phrase entries with the prefix lat- and your high court entries with hc- *** |
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Thanks so much for all your good advice and encouragement. I spend about 14
hours a day working so I don't want to be pushing any pieces of string if I can help it. "Charles Kenyon" wrote: Look into the AutoTextList field. You could save such a field, itself, as an AutoText or AutoCorrect entry and attach it to a keyboard shortcut. See http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/TblsFl...toTextList.htm. You may want to download the AutoTextLoader utility by Jay Freedman. You can get it at http://jay-freedman.info/autotextloader2.zip. If you can get your current macro results into a two-column table (name and result) in Word, this utility will convert it to AutoText entries. You want your AutoText entries to have names that (1) you are not likely to type by accident or when typing regular text, and (2) are at least four letters long. For instance you could start your latin phrase entries with the prefix lat- and your high court entries with hc- Here is some general info on moving from Word Perfect to Word: Word and Word Perfect work very differently from one another. Each program's methods have strengths and weaknesses; but, if you try to use one of these programs as if it were the other, it is like pushing on a string! You can easily make a lot of extra work for yourself. In the (short) long term (weeks rather than years) spending the time to learn Word will save you time if you are spending any time at all (more than an hour a day) using Word. See http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...ordPerfect.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...AndGotchas.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...Converters.htm http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/conc...ion/index.html for information on Word for Word Perfect users. For mo http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart2.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...platePart1.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/templates.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Number...gExplained.htm http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Custom...latesStore.htm Function Keys In Word 2000 (or later) You can get the function keys to display in a special toolbar at the bottom of the screen if you want (something like pressing F3 twice in WP). The following macro will do this. Sub ShowMeFunctionKeys() Commandbars("Function Key Display").Visible = True End Sub Word's Extend key (F8) gives something similar to block processing. Formatting and Styles Learn about Styles - really learn! http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/styles.htm I resisted for years and now regret every day of those years because although that string was still very hard to push, it kept getting longer and longer, and had some very important projects tied to it! Once you understand styles and the Word concept of organizing things into Chinese boxes everything falls into place and instead of pushing a string, you can push a button that turns on the very powerful text processing machine known as Microsoft Word and it will start doing your work for you instead of running around behind you trying to undo what you just thought you did. Converting documents Word / Word Perfect Some special characters in Word Perfect documents don't convert well to Word. There is a macro to assist with this described at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/...html#macroword and can be found at http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/WPSymbolConv.bas. This was prepared by Edward Mendelson. Otherwise, look at the macro from http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=212396 Use these on _copies_! As for converting documents from Word Perfect to _use_ in Word... In a word, don't plan on it. I would not recommend using converted documents long-term. They will be filled with formatting anomolies that will get you at the worst time. This is especially true of any documents containing automatic numbering or bullets. Try recreating form documents in Word using the following process: In Word Perfect (if you still have it, in Word if not) save your files as text files. Use your converted files as references to show you how you want your formatting to look. Create a new document in Word and insert the text from the text file. Save this new document as a Word template. Format it the way you want using styles, not direct formatting. Save it again. To use a template within Word, use File = New and pick your template. This will create a new document for you. Merge documents have special problems and should be recreated from text files or retyped in Word. To convert data files, consider generating labels in WP as a document, converting that to Word, and then using http://www.gmayor.com/convert_labels...mail_merge.htm to get a new Word data file. Note that conversions usually do create documents that look passable and print OK; the problems I'm referring to have to do with editing / making changes, that is, using the documents long-term. (See below on reusing documents vs. using templates.) Conversion back to Word Perfect: There is a problem (in addition to the ones mentioned for conversion _to_ Word) with Version 2002 (XP) and later of Word. The conversion file only works for conversion _to_ Word, not from Word to Word Perfect! Earlier versions went both ways. To fix this, you need to find the old conversion file WPFT532.CNV from a Word 97 or Word 2000 installation and copy it to your new installation, replacing the file of the same name. Note, the change making the file one-way was done as a security measure. While I don't know of any problems the old file causes, keep the new installation's file somewhere as a backup just in case. Boilerplate and Forms In WP a lot of people use macros to hold chunks of text - boilerplate. In Word this function is filled by Templates, AutoText and AutoCorrect, not macros. Follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebre...s.htm#AutoText for more information on these tools. You can use FILLIN and ASK fields or UserForms to query the user. For more about online forms, follow the links at http://addbalance.com/word/wordwebresources.htm#Forms or http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...nTheBlanks.htm especially Dian Chapman's series of articles. You may also want to look at http://www.word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFl...nesInForms.htm. Letterhead How to set up letterhead or some other document where you want one header on the first page and a different header on other pages. http://www.addbalance.com/word/headersfooters.htm This gives step-by-step instructions. (It also has the following links) Some other pages to look at: Letterhead Tips and Instructions http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/Letterhead.htm Letterhead Textboxes and Styles tutorial http://addbalance.com/word/download....StylesTutorial (for simulating different margins on different pages, among other things) Reusing Documents vs. Using templates General practice in WP is to have a document and copy and edit it to create a new document. This is not good practice in Word. In Word, construct a good, tight, template for your documents and use that template when constructing new documents. Among other things, this can avoid embarrassing "metadata" (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/metadata.htm) and things like surprise headers and footers from creeping into new documents. It's a lot of reading, I know. It's OK to chunk it down and do a bit each day, but I would recommend that you make it a top priority to do that bit each day. In the (short) long run, it will save you both time and grief. -- Charles Kenyon Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs which is awesome! My criminal law site: http://addbalance.com --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn from my ignorance and your wisdom. "Tipuana" wrote in message ... I am doing a quantum leap from working in WP5.1 for DOS to working in Word. In WP I had glossary macros. For instance I had created a list of Latin phrases on Ctrl-L. All I had to do was type the initial letters of a Latin phrase and then press Ctrl-L and the phrase would appear. Would it be possible to create such macros in Word? Or, alternatively, is it possible to have separate AutoText lists allocated to different keys? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. |
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You can set these up as AutoCorrect entries, and you won't even have to
press a key, they will just be converted automatically. The trick will be getting these into the .acl file without having to enter them manually (3,000 is a lot of entries). You might look at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...utocorrect.htm. This provides a macro that backs up existing AutoCorrect entries to a text file. This file can be edited to add your own entries and then "restored" to create a new ..acl file that will be used by Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Tipuana" wrote in message ... No, sorry, this is not exactly what I wanted. This takes the WP5.1 macros and creates a glossary list of them in AutoText. (And as I have over 3000 macros in WP, its quite a process.) It does not convert the actual glossary macros that are in WP. To go back to my example of my glossary of Latin phrases, which is called LATIN.WPM in WP, it will not convert this macro. What I actually want to do is to create new glossaries so that pressing typing €œhc€ and then pressing a key (perhaps Alt-L) it will give me honoris causa. Likewise typing the same letters €œhp€ and pressing a different key (perhaps Alt-C) will give me High Court in a list of names of courts. In other words this is like having separate AutoText lists on different keys. "macropod" wrote: Hi Tipuana, Microsoft's advice at the address below may be useful: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216706/en-us Basically, it describes how you can convert you existing WP glossary macros to Word AutoText entries. Cheers -- macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "Tipuana" wrote in message ... I am doing a quantum leap from working in WP5.1 for DOS to working in Word. In WP I had glossary macros. For instance I had created a list of Latin phrases on Ctrl-L. All I had to do was type the initial letters of a Latin phrase and then press Ctrl-L and the phrase would appear. Would it be possible to create such macros in Word? Or, alternatively, is it possible to have separate AutoText lists allocated to different keys? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. |
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Thanks, Suzanne. It is less than a week since I made the switch from WP5.1
and I have changed my system so many times. I was initially using AutoCorrect and I categorised each entry by adding a letter to it, for example words relating to criminal cases had a "c" added to the abbreviation, words relating to witnesses had the letter "w" added to the abbreviation and so on. I found the disadvange with this was that if the word came at the end of a sentence, I had to backspace before inserting a full stop or question mark, whereas with AutoText there is no space after the word. I was initially using AutoText for words requiring capitalisation. So "lab" became Legal Aid Board in AutoText, while "lab" was laboratory in AutoCorrect. I will check the link you gave me. It sounds good. Thanks for your suggestions. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: You can set these up as AutoCorrect entries, and you won't even have to press a key, they will just be converted automatically. The trick will be getting these into the .acl file without having to enter them manually (3,000 is a lot of entries). You might look at http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...utocorrect.htm. This provides a macro that backs up existing AutoCorrect entries to a text file. This file can be edited to add your own entries and then "restored" to create a new ..acl file that will be used by Word. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Tipuana" wrote in message ... No, sorry, this is not exactly what I wanted. This takes the WP5.1 macros and creates a glossary list of them in AutoText. (And as I have over 3000 macros in WP, its quite a process.) It does not convert the actual glossary macros that are in WP. To go back to my example of my glossary of Latin phrases, which is called LATIN.WPM in WP, it will not convert this macro. What I actually want to do is to create new glossaries so that pressing typing €œhc€ and then pressing a key (perhaps Alt-L) it will give me honoris causa. Likewise typing the same letters €œhp€ and pressing a different key (perhaps Alt-C) will give me High Court in a list of names of courts. In other words this is like having separate AutoText lists on different keys. "macropod" wrote: Hi Tipuana, Microsoft's advice at the address below may be useful: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216706/en-us Basically, it describes how you can convert you existing WP glossary macros to Word AutoText entries. Cheers -- macropod [MVP - Microsoft Word] "Tipuana" wrote in message ... I am doing a quantum leap from working in WP5.1 for DOS to working in Word. In WP I had glossary macros. For instance I had created a list of Latin phrases on Ctrl-L. All I had to do was type the initial letters of a Latin phrase and then press Ctrl-L and the phrase would appear. Would it be possible to create such macros in Word? Or, alternatively, is it possible to have separate AutoText lists allocated to different keys? Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks. |
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