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converting the font style on a typed document
hi. I was playing around with formatting. I selected the full text [two
pages] and changed the style from new roman to webdings. I went back to the text a couple of days later. I 'selected all' and tried to change it back to new roman. All i got was a text document full of identical squares. Can anyone help me, it was an important document that i should not have used for practice :-( |
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Hi ?B?ZW5pZ21hNjY2?=,
I was playing around with formatting. I selected the full text [two pages] and changed the style from new roman to webdings. I went back to the text a couple of days later. I 'selected all' and tried to change it back to new roman. All i got was a text document full of identical squares. Can anyone help me, it was an important document that i should not have used for practice :-( A "style" in word is a named set of formatting specifications. You didn't change the "style", just the font formatting. This in the interest of avoiding confusion if you post a question in the future where it's not so clear what you really did :-) The problem with applying a symbol type of font is that it makes fundamental changes in the way Word stores the text. Used to be, a font could contain only 512 characters, at the most. Then they introduced Unicode, and a font can contain tens of thousands of characters. If you mix the two, at the end Word may not longer be able to match up the characters from the one font with the original. The unicode information is available in clear text if the document is saved as HTML or XML. With a bit of work, someone should be able to figure out which unicode matches which "plain text" and reconvert the document. But it would take some time (= money). There might even be professionals or software out there already to do the job. But there's not going to be any "simple" way for you to get the text back within the Word interface. Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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"Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote in message
news:VA.0000bb27.007a2317@speedy... Hi ?B?ZW5pZ21hNjY2?=, I was playing around with formatting. I selected the full text [two pages] and changed the style from new roman to webdings. I went back to the text a couple of days later. I 'selected all' and tried to change it back to new roman. All i got was a text document full of identical squares. Can anyone help me, it was an important document that i should not have used for practice :-( A "style" in word is a named set of formatting specifications. You didn't change the "style", just the font formatting. This in the interest of avoiding confusion if you post a question in the future where it's not so clear what you really did :-) The problem with applying a symbol type of font is that it makes fundamental changes in the way Word stores the text. Used to be, a font could contain only 512 characters, at the most. Then they introduced Unicode, and a font can contain tens of thousands of characters. If you mix the two, at the end Word may not longer be able to match up the characters from the one font with the original. The unicode information is available in clear text if the document is saved as HTML or XML. With a bit of work, someone should be able to figure out which unicode matches which "plain text" and reconvert the document. But it would take some time (= money). There might even be professionals or software out there already to do the job. But there's not going to be any "simple" way for you to get the text back within the Word interface. But for a two-page document, saving as HTML and then copying and pasting plain text (from the HTML source) into a fresh document seems possible to do manually. Of course, it could be difficult to recreate the formatting. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP |
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Hi Stefan,
But for a two-page document, saving as HTML and then copying and pasting plain text (from the HTML source) into a fresh document seems possible to do manually. But the characters are still encoded in the HTML document. Someone still needs to work out which encoding matches which character in the previous font... (I actually recreated the described steps and took a good hard look before answering.) Cindy Meister |
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Hmm... I have to admit that I did my testing in Word 2000, and it certainly
produced readable HTML code, which I could copy from NotePad. (I had to remove tags applied to the text, of course.) I guess recent versions are better at Unicode, and therefore make it more complicated... -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote: Hi Stefan, But for a two-page document, saving as HTML and then copying and pasting plain text (from the HTML source) into a fresh document seems possible to do manually. But the characters are still encoded in the HTML document. Someone still needs to work out which encoding matches which character in the previous font... (I actually recreated the described steps and took a good hard look before answering.) Cindy Meister |
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Hi Stefan,
I have to admit that I did my testing in Word 2000, and it certainly produced readable HTML code, which I could copy from NotePad. (I had to remove tags applied to the text, of course.) I guess recent versions are better at Unicode, and therefore make it more complicated... Thanks for replying to this, because yesterday garfield-an-odie posted a link to a KB article with a macro to "convert" the Unicode back to plain text. I was worried whether I could find this thread again... and thanks to you, I have! WD2002: Symbol Characters Are Changed to Box Characters http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290978 Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Good to know that there is a solution. I'm still a bit confused about
this, though. I tested in Word 2003 and I found that if I apply a symbol font and then reapply a non-symbol font (or press Ctrl+SpaceBar to revert to style), I'll get a document with boxes instead of characters (as we've already established). Also, saving as HTML produces a document whose HTML cannot be read (in a text editor such as NotePad). However, if I re-apply the symbol font (in the document with boxes instead of characters) and then save as HTML I seem to get readable HTML code, which can be pasted into a new document (after manually removing the HTML/XML tags, of course). So unless I completely missed a step, it does seem to be possible to recreate the *text* of the document manually (though time-consuming). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote in message news:VA.0000bb76.006e96e9@speedy... Hi Stefan, I have to admit that I did my testing in Word 2000, and it certainly produced readable HTML code, which I could copy from NotePad. (I had to remove tags applied to the text, of course.) I guess recent versions are better at Unicode, and therefore make it more complicated... Thanks for replying to this, because yesterday garfield-an-odie posted a link to a KB article with a macro to "convert" the Unicode back to plain text. I was worried whether I could find this thread again... and thanks to you, I have! WD2002: Symbol Characters Are Changed to Box Characters http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290978 Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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Of course, with "readable HTML" and similar expressions, I mean that I
can read the plain text (the contents) of the file; I am *not* saying that the HTML tags themselves are (or aren't) readable. -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Stefan Blom" wrote in message ... Good to know that there is a solution. I'm still a bit confused about this, though. I tested in Word 2003 and I found that if I apply a symbol font and then reapply a non-symbol font (or press Ctrl+SpaceBar to revert to style), I'll get a document with boxes instead of characters (as we've already established). Also, saving as HTML produces a document whose HTML cannot be read (in a text editor such as NotePad). However, if I re-apply the symbol font (in the document with boxes instead of characters) and then save as HTML I seem to get readable HTML code, which can be pasted into a new document (after manually removing the HTML/XML tags, of course). So unless I completely missed a step, it does seem to be possible to recreate the *text* of the document manually (though time-consuming). -- Stefan Blom Microsoft Word MVP "Cindy M -WordMVP-" wrote in message news:VA.0000bb76.006e96e9@speedy... Hi Stefan, I have to admit that I did my testing in Word 2000, and it certainly produced readable HTML code, which I could copy from NotePad. (I had to remove tags applied to the text, of course.) I guess recent versions are better at Unicode, and therefore make it more complicated... Thanks for replying to this, because yesterday garfield-an-odie posted a link to a KB article with a macro to "convert" the Unicode back to plain text. I was worried whether I could find this thread again... and thanks to you, I have! WD2002: Symbol Characters Are Changed to Box Characters http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290978 Cindy Meister INTER-Solutions, Switzerland http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 8 2004) http://www.word.mvps.org This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :-) |
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