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How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I
have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the
Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a
tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of .95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isnt the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add
automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility.
For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help.
But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility. For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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Suzanne: I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again and got the same problem. I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks about TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line, it sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe assessment? Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)? thanks again for helping to educate me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help. But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility. For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror movie or
other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or "Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday the Thirteenth"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message news Suzanne: I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again and got the same problem. I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks about TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line, it sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe assessment? Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)? thanks again for helping to educate me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help. But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility. For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th.
The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug in software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility | Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab. I do not know where else to look. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror movie or other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or "Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday the Thirteenth"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message news Suzanne: I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again and got the same problem. I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks about TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line, it sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe assessment? Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)? thanks again for helping to educate me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help. But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility. For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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It's definitely a bug in the software, as the article says at the outset.
The article states the only known workarounds/solutions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th. The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug in software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility | Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab. I do not know where else to look. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror movie or other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or "Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday the Thirteenth"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message news Suzanne: I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again and got the same problem. I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks about TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line, it sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe assessment? Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)? thanks again for helping to educate me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help. But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility. For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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thanks Suzanne once again.
Namaste "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It's definitely a bug in the software, as the article says at the outset. The article states the only known workarounds/solutions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th. The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug in software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility | Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab. I do not know where else to look. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror movie or other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or "Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday the Thirteenth"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message news Suzanne: I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again and got the same problem. I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks about TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line, it sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe assessment? Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)? thanks again for helping to educate me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help. But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility. For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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thanks Suzanne once again.
Namaste "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: It's definitely a bug in the software, as the article says at the outset. The article states the only known workarounds/solutions. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Ok. Jason tabs= Friday the 13th. The other question I had is do you think what I am experiencing is a bug in software? I reset the compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility | Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent). I then reset numbering again and got the same problem of Word creating a tab. I do not know where else to look. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Jason tabs are tabs that keep coming back (reference to some horror movie or other--I can never remember whether it's "Friday the Thirteenth" or "Nightmare on Elm Street" or some other--okay, Google says it's "Friday the Thirteenth"). -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message news Suzanne: I went back and re-read the compatibility wording and you are absolutley right. It needed to be checked. I did this and then reset numbering again and got the same problem. I went the the article you provided a link for. As this article talks about TOC tabs, it isn't quite the same situation I am facing. But, bottom line, it sounds like I am dealing with a bug in software. Is that a safe assessment? Finally, what in the heck are Jason tabs anyhow (mentioned in article)? thanks again for helping to educate me. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Well, you would need to *check* that compatibility option for it to help. But see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/TOCJasonTabs.htm -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... I looked and that setting was not checked under compatibility. For grins, I just pulled the Word added tab off the ruler in the offending paragraph. I then added below the problem paragraph another non-numbering style parapraph followed by a numbered style paragraph. When I set the newest numbered parapragh to restart numbering, the tab was added in again by Word. Any other places this might be defined that allows Word to keep doing this? Thanks in advance. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: There's a compatibility option (Tools | Options | Compatibility) "Don't add automatic tab stop for hanging indent." Would that help? Note, too, that you don't really have to clear the Paragraph dialog, just be aware that any settings you make there will be overridden by the settings in the Numbering dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... Thanks for the information. I am still having a problem with Word inserting a tab. Here's what I did to the offending style. 1st, changed the left alignment setting to 0 in the paragraph dialog (it had been set to match the number position in the outline numbering dialog of ..95) 2nd, changed the hanging indent under special to none (it had been set to the match the text position in the outline numbering dialog of 1.15) 3rd, went to the tabs dialog and said clear all 4th, verified in the numbering outline numbering customize dialog that the number position (.95) and text position (1.15) were still set to what they had been previously defined. They were. 5th, went back to the paragraph dialog and saw that the hanging indent I had set to none in step 2 was back and was set to .2 ( this .2 measurement isn t the actual distance from the left margin, but IS the correct distance when measured from the number position set in the outline numbering) The result was Word added a left tab stop at 1.2 (slightly to the right) of the left indent and hanging indent. How can I prevent Word from doing this. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Indents in numbered styles must be set in the Numbering dialog, not in the Paragraph dialog. Make sure that the indent (or tab stop) in your numbered paragraphs is set the same as the unnumbered paragraphs. First-line and hanging indents are not "tab stops." The position of all tab stops is set relative to the left margin, irrespective of any paragraph indent. You can most easily see how Word treats measurements in first-line and hanging indents by dragging the appropriate markers on the ruler and then looking at the settings in the Paragraph dialog. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "cayce" wrote in message ... How can I prevent Word 97 from ADDING a tab position to a numbering style I have created. It happens whenever I tell Word to restart the numbering when a numbered list is separated from a previous numbered list by intervening paragraphs of a different style. The result is the 1st line of the paragraph is indented slightly more than the rest of the lines in the paragraph which are controlled by the hanging indent tab. Secondly, when a tab stop is defined in a paragraph style, what is the exact reference point it is using to measure from? Does this reference point vary whether defining a hanging indent versus first line indent? Any ideas on this would be helpful. |
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