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I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have
used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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Instead of using the line numbers in the Pleading Wizard (which are just
numbers in a text box anchored to the page header), you could try using Word's line numbering feature (File | Page Setup | Layout: Line Numbering... -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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Going from WP to Word is not fun. Neither is a root canal. One of those
things will do you some undeniable good. The pain from the other takes a long time to subside. You will understand this better later. Meanwhile, both Word and WP have their advantages and disadvantages. As to creating "pleadings" the most typical uses of this I have seen in the legal environment have the line numbers in a footer (or is it a header?) probably created initially using the pleading wizard. Our local courts don't require this but some of my work involves courts that do. (I think the requirement is a remnant from the pre-word processing days long ago when legal stationery was printed with lines and numbers. Most courts did not actually require line numbering but lawyers probably thought their clients would be impresssed with something that looked awfully "legal," which probably made them feel a tad better about how much this was costing them.) Even though the text of a legal pleading may be double-spaced, the caption is usually single-spaced. Obviously half of the single-spaced stuff will end up between line numbers. Double-spacing everything would look bizarre; so would numbering each line, whether single or double spaced. You really want to create a template (Word is actually based on templates--a blank document in Word is based on a template called normal.dot.) You can use the wizard, particularly to get the vertical lines and line numbers (you will go nuts trying to do this yourself), but it is almost guaranteed that the wizard will not produce exactly what you want anyway, so you will have to tweak the result. Once you have things the way you want you should save the pleading as a template (*.dot). After that you can pretty much forget the wizard. Once you are comfortable with using a Word template you might want to create different templates for courts that may require different formats. This is a lot better than just keeping one document and using it as a "form" You set up styles for the components of the pleading, such as Attorney name, Court Caption, and the like. As a Word Perfect user you should be quite familiar with the use of styles. Word styles are pretty similar, except they will not store any text. As a practical matter, if the line numbers are ordinarily used to refer to the contents of the pleading, brief, etc. rather than the caption. How to make sure that your double-spaced stuff lines up with the numbers? Stick a blank line somewhere in the single-spaced part, such as the very top line of the pleading or arrange the single spaced stuff so you get another line (or maybe get rid of one). These links should help get you started: Word v. WP: http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm Some Tips and "Gotchas" for those who are new to Word, especially if migrating from WordPerfect http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...AndGotchas.htm Is There Life After "Reveal Codes"? http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm WordPerfect to Word converters (and why none of them are perfect) http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/Genera...Converters.htm For Word's best approximation to Reveal Codes, see http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/General/RevealCodes.htm Word v. WP: http://www.addbalance.com/word/wordperfect.htm Styles: http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/index.html Styles: Using Body Text instead of Normal: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...BodyStyles.htm Customizing the Normal Template: http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customizat...alTemplate.htm Creating a Template - The Basics (Part I): http://word.mvps.org/faqs/Customizat...platePart1.htm What is the relationship between a Word document and its template? http://www.ShaunaKelly.com/word/temp...ons\index.html "Kerri" wrote in message ... I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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The URL below links to a page on outline numbering that is very informative.
The author, Shauna Kelly, is a Word MVP and her site is well worth perusing. http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numb...Numbering.html -- Kevin Backmann "Kerri" wrote: I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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Yeah, but when I switch to single spacing won't it display line numbers for
the single spaced entries? See, I want there to be only 28 line nos. displayed on my pleading sheets----always. Please let me know if this is not the case. Thanks. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Instead of using the line numbers in the Pleading Wizard (which are just numbers in a text box anchored to the page header), you could try using Word's line numbering feature (File | Page Setup | Layout: Line Numbering... -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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If you just want 28 line numbers displayed, then what is the problem with
the way the Pleading Wizard has it set up? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... Yeah, but when I switch to single spacing won't it display line numbers for the single spaced entries? See, I want there to be only 28 line nos. displayed on my pleading sheets----always. Please let me know if this is not the case. Thanks. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Instead of using the line numbers in the Pleading Wizard (which are just numbers in a text box anchored to the page header), you could try using Word's line numbering feature (File | Page Setup | Layout: Line Numbering... -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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Because the way the pleading wizard is set up is that it has double spacing
in the actual caption box, which is not what we want. And, once you tweak it, and then go into the body of the pleading and type 6-7 pages of double spaced text and then switch to single spaced text and want to go back into double spaced text it throws the line numbering off. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you just want 28 line numbers displayed, then what is the problem with the way the Pleading Wizard has it set up? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... Yeah, but when I switch to single spacing won't it display line numbers for the single spaced entries? See, I want there to be only 28 line nos. displayed on my pleading sheets----always. Please let me know if this is not the case. Thanks. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Instead of using the line numbers in the Pleading Wizard (which are just numbers in a text box anchored to the page header), you could try using Word's line numbering feature (File | Page Setup | Layout: Line Numbering... -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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I don't see how you can have it both ways. Either you want actual line
numbers or you want 28 line numbers per page, whether or not they bear any relation to the number of lines. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... Because the way the pleading wizard is set up is that it has double spacing in the actual caption box, which is not what we want. And, once you tweak it, and then go into the body of the pleading and type 6-7 pages of double spaced text and then switch to single spaced text and want to go back into double spaced text it throws the line numbering off. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: If you just want 28 line numbers displayed, then what is the problem with the way the Pleading Wizard has it set up? -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... Yeah, but when I switch to single spacing won't it display line numbers for the single spaced entries? See, I want there to be only 28 line nos. displayed on my pleading sheets----always. Please let me know if this is not the case. Thanks. "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote: Instead of using the line numbers in the Pleading Wizard (which are just numbers in a text box anchored to the page header), you could try using Word's line numbering feature (File | Page Setup | Layout: Line Numbering... -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA Word MVP FAQ site: http://word.mvps.org Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the newsgroup so all may benefit. "Kerri" wrote in message ... I work at a law firm and we are coverting from Wordperfect to Word. We have used both the pleading wizard and the pleading template available online for our test run pleadings. The problem we are encountering is this: The pleading line numbers match up beautifully when our pleadings are double-spaced, but when we insert single spaced text (i.e., case citations, lists, etc.) into the pleading, the subsequent text that must be double spaced does not "line up" with the pleading line numbers on the left side of the page. Can anyone shed any light on this? THANK YOU. |
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