[Sambuccus]

Hi, I want to define a simple numbering style that has no right indent and a
hanging indent of 0,75 cm in Office 2007. I have managed to define a style
with the desired look by defining a numbered multilevel list style linked to
a paragraph style. Is there any drawback defining a multilevel list style
when you only want to use the first level? I only want a simple list.

When I use my paragraph style the numbering continues from the previsios list.
I have read lots of warnings in the user groups that you should not use the
out of the box right click choice Restart number with 1. Is that still true
in Word 2007?

Or better, can you define a style that restarts numbering automatically like
when you click the numering button? If not through the user interface - can
you program a style in VBA?

[Stefan Blom]

As far as I know, the commands for restarting have the same advantages and
downsides as they used to in Word 2003. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tartFromUI.htm.

If the restarts should occur after a specific paragraph style you could set
*that* style as the top-level in a multilevel list (it doesn't have to be
numbered), and have your actual numbered style as the second-level item. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm.

Alternatively, you can use single-level numbering and restart it with
LISTNUM fields. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tByLISTNUM.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Hi, I want to define a simple numbering style that has no right indent and
a
hanging indent of 0,75 cm in Office 2007. I have managed to define a style
with the desired look by defining a numbered multilevel list style linked
to
a paragraph style. Is there any drawback defining a multilevel list style
when you only want to use the first level? I only want a simple list.

When I use my paragraph style the numbering continues from the previsios
list.
I have read lots of warnings in the user groups that you should not use
the
out of the box right click choice Restart number with 1. Is that still
true
in Word 2007?

Or better, can you define a style that restarts numbering automatically
like
when you click the numering button? If not through the user interface -
can
you program a style in VBA?

[Sambuccus]

Thanks, sad to hear that there's no improvement around numbering in 2007.

I also tried to assign a shortkey to my multilevel numbering style, and
could apply numbering that way (no way to show the style in the style list).
This way I could start new lists with the right look, but then I tested to
use the shortkey in an anready formatted list, numbering restarted unwanted
in the paragraph below...

"Stefan Blom" skrev:

As far as I know, the commands for restarting have the same advantages and
downsides as they used to in Word 2003. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tartFromUI.htm.

If the restarts should occur after a specific paragraph style you could set
*that* style as the top-level in a multilevel list (it doesn't have to be
numbered), and have your actual numbered style as the second-level item. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm.

Alternatively, you can use single-level numbering and restart it with
LISTNUM fields. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tByLISTNUM.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Hi, I want to define a simple numbering style that has no right indent and
a
hanging indent of 0,75 cm in Office 2007. I have managed to define a style
with the desired look by defining a numbered multilevel list style linked
to
a paragraph style. Is there any drawback defining a multilevel list style
when you only want to use the first level? I only want a simple list.

When I use my paragraph style the numbering continues from the previsios
list.
I have read lots of warnings in the user groups that you should not use
the
out of the box right click choice Restart number with 1. Is that still
true
in Word 2007?

Or better, can you define a style that restarts numbering automatically
like
when you click the numering button? If not through the user interface -
can
you program a style in VBA?

[Stefan Blom]

"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Thanks, sad to hear that there's no improvement around numbering in 2007.


Numbering might very well be (and probably is) more *stable* in Word 2007,
but, yes, the underlying mechanism (the list template) is the same.

I also tried to assign a shortkey to my multilevel numbering style, and
could apply numbering that way (no way to show the style in the style
list).

Are you saying that you are using *list styles*? These are not visible in
the Styles pane. However, you can see them if you click the Multilevel List
button on the Home tab of the ribbon; they are listed under the "List
styles" heading.

This way I could start new lists with the right look, but then I tested to
use the shortkey in an anready formatted list, numbering restarted
unwanted
in the paragraph below...


Assuming that the numbering levels are linked to paragraph styles, Ctrl+Q
should fix this.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Stefan Blom" skrev:

As far as I know, the commands for restarting have the same advantages
and
downsides as they used to in Word 2003. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tartFromUI.htm.

If the restarts should occur after a specific paragraph style you could
set
*that* style as the top-level in a multilevel list (it doesn't have to be
numbered), and have your actual numbered style as the second-level item.
See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm.

Alternatively, you can use single-level numbering and restart it with
LISTNUM fields. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tByLISTNUM.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Hi, I want to define a simple numbering style that has no right indent
and
a
hanging indent of 0,75 cm in Office 2007. I have managed to define a
style
with the desired look by defining a numbered multilevel list style
linked
to
a paragraph style. Is there any drawback defining a multilevel list
style
when you only want to use the first level? I only want a simple list.

When I use my paragraph style the numbering continues from the
previsios
list.
I have read lots of warnings in the user groups that you should not use
the
out of the box right click choice Restart number with 1. Is that still
true
in Word 2007?

Or better, can you define a style that restarts numbering automatically
like
when you click the numering button? If not through the user interface -
can
you program a style in VBA?

[Sambuccus]

Thanks again, No this time I did not link the multi level style to a
paragraph style. The multi level style itseft can not be shown in the style
list but I assigned a short cut key and could apply it that way. And it
worked just fine, I could start new lists, they started by one and behaved
well. But even though a list has the multi level style applied on all
paragraphs, if I reapply the multi level style by pressing the short cut key,
the numbering changes in the list, the paragraph below restarts numbering.

Today I have promised to deliver a couple of document templates to a
company. They want their new profile in the templates and they want them to
be easy to use and robust. I do not think that any of the alternatives for
lists with listnum fields or restarting numbering by vba or teaching people
to only use right click to restart is any good. And people do not expect
lists to continue through out the document in the first place.

Most importent for the company is to get rid of the indenting of lists.
After reading about all problems I think the best thing is to educate them to
first press the numbering button and then the decrease indent button. In that
way they get the lists not indented and behaving as they expect. I know that
in fact this way creates a lot of hidden list styles but anyway it is the way
Word is designed to work. (In Sweden where I live the space 0,63 between a
number and the text is highly unwanted, we want increments of 0,25 cm that
correspondenses with the ruler increments so I have to argue to change other
bulleted list styles back from 0,75 to 0,63.)


"Stefan Blom" skrev:

"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Thanks, sad to hear that there's no improvement around numbering in 2007.


Numbering might very well be (and probably is) more *stable* in Word 2007,
but, yes, the underlying mechanism (the list template) is the same.

I also tried to assign a shortkey to my multilevel numbering style, and
could apply numbering that way (no way to show the style in the style
list).

Are you saying that you are using *list styles*? These are not visible in
the Styles pane. However, you can see them if you click the Multilevel List
button on the Home tab of the ribbon; they are listed under the "List
styles" heading.

This way I could start new lists with the right look, but then I tested to
use the shortkey in an anready formatted list, numbering restarted
unwanted
in the paragraph below...


Assuming that the numbering levels are linked to paragraph styles, Ctrl+Q
should fix this.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Stefan Blom" skrev:

As far as I know, the commands for restarting have the same advantages
and
downsides as they used to in Word 2003. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tartFromUI.htm.

If the restarts should occur after a specific paragraph style you could
set
*that* style as the top-level in a multilevel list (it doesn't have to be
numbered), and have your actual numbered style as the second-level item.
See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm.

Alternatively, you can use single-level numbering and restart it with
LISTNUM fields. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tByLISTNUM.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Hi, I want to define a simple numbering style that has no right indent
and
a
hanging indent of 0,75 cm in Office 2007. I have managed to define a
style
with the desired look by defining a numbered multilevel list style
linked
to
a paragraph style. Is there any drawback defining a multilevel list
style
when you only want to use the first level? I only want a simple list.

When I use my paragraph style the numbering continues from the
previsios
list.
I have read lots of warnings in the user groups that you should not use
the
out of the box right click choice Restart number with 1. Is that still
true
in Word 2007?

Or better, can you define a style that restarts numbering automatically
like
when you click the numering button? If not through the user interface -
can
you program a style in VBA?

[Stefan Blom]

Indeed, list numbering in Word is not the easiest thing to master... The
fact that Word 2007, unlike previous versions, lets you "see" the lists in
use (when clicking the Multilevel List button) make things a little easier,
but restarting is still complex, as you've seen from the links mentioned in
an earlier message.

If what you need is single-level lists that should be restarted, the add-in
available on MVP Greg Maxey's web site might actually be more useful:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/SEQ_Field_Numbering.htm.

For what it's worth, my native language is Swedish too.

--
Hälsningar
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Thanks again, No this time I did not link the multi level style to a
paragraph style. The multi level style itseft can not be shown in the
style
list but I assigned a short cut key and could apply it that way. And it
worked just fine, I could start new lists, they started by one and behaved
well. But even though a list has the multi level style applied on all
paragraphs, if I reapply the multi level style by pressing the short cut
key,
the numbering changes in the list, the paragraph below restarts numbering.

Today I have promised to deliver a couple of document templates to a
company. They want their new profile in the templates and they want them
to
be easy to use and robust. I do not think that any of the alternatives for
lists with listnum fields or restarting numbering by vba or teaching
people
to only use right click to restart is any good. And people do not expect
lists to continue through out the document in the first place.

Most importent for the company is to get rid of the indenting of lists.
After reading about all problems I think the best thing is to educate them
to
first press the numbering button and then the decrease indent button. In
that
way they get the lists not indented and behaving as they expect. I know
that
in fact this way creates a lot of hidden list styles but anyway it is the
way
Word is designed to work. (In Sweden where I live the space 0,63 between a
number and the text is highly unwanted, we want increments of 0,25 cm that
correspondenses with the ruler increments so I have to argue to change
other
bulleted list styles back from 0,75 to 0,63.)


"Stefan Blom" skrev:

"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Thanks, sad to hear that there's no improvement around numbering in
2007.


Numbering might very well be (and probably is) more *stable* in Word
2007,
but, yes, the underlying mechanism (the list template) is the same.

I also tried to assign a shortkey to my multilevel numbering style, and
could apply numbering that way (no way to show the style in the style
list).

Are you saying that you are using *list styles*? These are not visible in
the Styles pane. However, you can see them if you click the Multilevel
List
button on the Home tab of the ribbon; they are listed under the "List
styles" heading.

This way I could start new lists with the right look, but then I tested
to
use the shortkey in an anready formatted list, numbering restarted
unwanted
in the paragraph below...


Assuming that the numbering levels are linked to paragraph styles, Ctrl+Q
should fix this.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP



"Stefan Blom" skrev:

As far as I know, the commands for restarting have the same advantages
and
downsides as they used to in Word 2003. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tartFromUI.htm.

If the restarts should occur after a specific paragraph style you
could
set
*that* style as the top-level in a multilevel list (it doesn't have to
be
numbered), and have your actual numbered style as the second-level
item.
See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tfromstyle.htm.

Alternatively, you can use single-level numbering and restart it with
LISTNUM fields. See
http://word.mvps.org/faqs/numbering/...tByLISTNUM.htm.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


"Sambuccus" wrote in message
...
Hi, I want to define a simple numbering style that has no right
indent
and
a
hanging indent of 0,75 cm in Office 2007. I have managed to define a
style
with the desired look by defining a numbered multilevel list style
linked
to
a paragraph style. Is there any drawback defining a multilevel list
style
when you only want to use the first level? I only want a simple
list.

When I use my paragraph style the numbering continues from the
previsios
list.
I have read lots of warnings in the user groups that you should not
use
the
out of the box right click choice Restart number with 1. Is that
still
true
in Word 2007?

Or better, can you define a style that restarts numbering
automatically
like
when you click the numering button? If not through the user
interface -
can
you program a style in VBA?