[JGreg7]

I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to its width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and footers. The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can still edit it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and footers. The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can still edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory

[JGreg7]

Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still having trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result each time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation of the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did not seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same header and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and footers. The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can still edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Did you change the text direction in the frame/text box? Was it placed in
the appropriate margin?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still having
trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result each time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation of the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did not seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same header
and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a
multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and footers.
The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can still
edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



.

[JGreg7]

The table spans about 20 pages. When I treid to use a frame, I had to break
the table into multiple sections of text for each page. That does not help
since the table will be updated periodically and have to be continually
reasenbled and split up.

The end result I am after is a portrait page with a landscape orieted table
spanning multiple pages - that is still editable.

Is there any way to rotate the pages and keep the header and footer in the
portrait orientation?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Did you change the text direction in the frame/text box? Was it placed in
the appropriate margin?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still having
trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result each time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation of the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did not seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same header
and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a
multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and footers.
The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can still
edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



.



.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

You're going about this entirely wrong. You change the entire page to
landscape orientation and create your table normally. You then insert a text
box or frame anchored to the header or footer/drag it to the appropriate
location in the correct margin, and change the text direction so that it
will read correctly when the page is rotated to portrait orientation. I
suggest you go back and reread the article, starting with the instructions
for inserting section breaks and changing the orientation.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
The table spans about 20 pages. When I treid to use a frame, I had to
break
the table into multiple sections of text for each page. That does not
help
since the table will be updated periodically and have to be continually
reasenbled and split up.

The end result I am after is a portrait page with a landscape orieted
table
spanning multiple pages - that is still editable.

Is there any way to rotate the pages and keep the header and footer in the
portrait orientation?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Did you change the text direction in the frame/text box? Was it placed in
the appropriate margin?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still having
trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result each
time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation of
the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did not
seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same header
and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a
multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and footers.
The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can still
edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and
footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



.



.

[JGreg7]

Sorry, I must have missed something in the first round.

I did set the page to landscape and insert the table. I then made the text
box for the rotated header and footer text for the "side" of each landscape
page. I then had to copy these two texts boxes to each page of the table
since the header and footer of each page was now on the top and bottom of the
landscape page.

This worked, but it seems to be a very long way around what should be a
simple formatting task.

I don't suppose there is any way to link the text boxes to the header and
footer?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You're going about this entirely wrong. You change the entire page to
landscape orientation and create your table normally. You then insert a text
box or frame anchored to the header or footer/drag it to the appropriate
location in the correct margin, and change the text direction so that it
will read correctly when the page is rotated to portrait orientation. I
suggest you go back and reread the article, starting with the instructions
for inserting section breaks and changing the orientation.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
The table spans about 20 pages. When I treid to use a frame, I had to
break
the table into multiple sections of text for each page. That does not
help
since the table will be updated periodically and have to be continually
reasenbled and split up.

The end result I am after is a portrait page with a landscape orieted
table
spanning multiple pages - that is still editable.

Is there any way to rotate the pages and keep the header and footer in the
portrait orientation?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Did you change the text direction in the frame/text box? Was it placed in
the appropriate margin?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still having
trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result each
time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation of
the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did not
seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same header
and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a
multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and footers.
The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can still
edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and
footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



.



.



.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

What you missed is that you must create the text boxes *in* the header and
footer; you must have the header/footer pane open when you create them
(this is spelled out in step 3). Objects anchored to the header/footer can
be placed anywhere on the page; see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/AnchorToHeader.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I must have missed something in the first round.

I did set the page to landscape and insert the table. I then made the
text
box for the rotated header and footer text for the "side" of each
landscape
page. I then had to copy these two texts boxes to each page of the table
since the header and footer of each page was now on the top and bottom of
the
landscape page.

This worked, but it seems to be a very long way around what should be a
simple formatting task.

I don't suppose there is any way to link the text boxes to the header and
footer?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You're going about this entirely wrong. You change the entire page to
landscape orientation and create your table normally. You then insert a
text
box or frame anchored to the header or footer/drag it to the appropriate
location in the correct margin, and change the text direction so that it
will read correctly when the page is rotated to portrait orientation. I
suggest you go back and reread the article, starting with the
instructions
for inserting section breaks and changing the orientation.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
The table spans about 20 pages. When I treid to use a frame, I had to
break
the table into multiple sections of text for each page. That does not
help
since the table will be updated periodically and have to be continually
reasenbled and split up.

The end result I am after is a portrait page with a landscape orieted
table
spanning multiple pages - that is still editable.

Is there any way to rotate the pages and keep the header and footer in
the
portrait orientation?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Did you change the text direction in the frame/text box? Was it placed
in
the appropriate margin?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still having
trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result each
time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation of
the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did
not
seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same
header
and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a
multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to
its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and
footers.
The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed
before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can
still
edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and
footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



.



.



.

[JGreg7]

Thank you so much for your support. With those last instructions I was able
to set it up and get the "sideways" headers on every page. It is quite
efficient when you get it set up and working properly.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

What you missed is that you must create the text boxes *in* the header and
footer; you must have the header/footer pane open when you create them
(this is spelled out in step 3). Objects anchored to the header/footer can
be placed anywhere on the page; see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/AnchorToHeader.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I must have missed something in the first round.

I did set the page to landscape and insert the table. I then made the
text
box for the rotated header and footer text for the "side" of each
landscape
page. I then had to copy these two texts boxes to each page of the table
since the header and footer of each page was now on the top and bottom of
the
landscape page.

This worked, but it seems to be a very long way around what should be a
simple formatting task.

I don't suppose there is any way to link the text boxes to the header and
footer?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You're going about this entirely wrong. You change the entire page to
landscape orientation and create your table normally. You then insert a
text
box or frame anchored to the header or footer/drag it to the appropriate
location in the correct margin, and change the text direction so that it
will read correctly when the page is rotated to portrait orientation. I
suggest you go back and reread the article, starting with the
instructions
for inserting section breaks and changing the orientation.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
The table spans about 20 pages. When I treid to use a frame, I had to
break
the table into multiple sections of text for each page. That does not
help
since the table will be updated periodically and have to be continually
reasenbled and split up.

The end result I am after is a portrait page with a landscape orieted
table
spanning multiple pages - that is still editable.

Is there any way to rotate the pages and keep the header and footer in
the
portrait orientation?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Did you change the text direction in the frame/text box? Was it placed
in
the appropriate margin?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still having
trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result each
time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation of
the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did
not
seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same
header
and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes a
multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due to
its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and
footers.
The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed
before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can
still
edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and
footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



.



.



.



.

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Glad you got there in the end!

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Thank you so much for your support. With those last instructions I was
able
to set it up and get the "sideways" headers on every page. It is quite
efficient when you get it set up and working properly.


"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

What you missed is that you must create the text boxes *in* the header
and
footer; you must have the header/footer pane open when you create them
(this is spelled out in step 3). Objects anchored to the header/footer
can
be placed anywhere on the page; see
http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/AnchorToHeader.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I must have missed something in the first round.

I did set the page to landscape and insert the table. I then made the
text
box for the rotated header and footer text for the "side" of each
landscape
page. I then had to copy these two texts boxes to each page of the
table
since the header and footer of each page was now on the top and bottom
of
the
landscape page.

This worked, but it seems to be a very long way around what should be a
simple formatting task.

I don't suppose there is any way to link the text boxes to the header
and
footer?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

You're going about this entirely wrong. You change the entire page to
landscape orientation and create your table normally. You then insert
a
text
box or frame anchored to the header or footer/drag it to the
appropriate
location in the correct margin, and change the text direction so that
it
will read correctly when the page is rotated to portrait orientation.
I
suggest you go back and reread the article, starting with the
instructions
for inserting section breaks and changing the orientation.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
The table spans about 20 pages. When I treid to use a frame, I had
to
break
the table into multiple sections of text for each page. That does
not
help
since the table will be updated periodically and have to be
continually
reasenbled and split up.

The end result I am after is a portrait page with a landscape
orieted
table
spanning multiple pages - that is still editable.

Is there any way to rotate the pages and keep the header and footer
in
the
portrait orientation?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

Did you change the text direction in the frame/text box? Was it
placed
in
the appropriate margin?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
Suzanne, thank you for your instructions, however I am still
having
trouble.

I followed the instructions several times with the same result
each
time -
the header and footer stubbornly stay attcahed to the orientation
of
the
content.

I even tried several variations of your instructions, bt they did
not
seem
to work any differently.

I have a table that spans about 20 pages that must have the same
header
and
footer as the rest of the several hundred page document.

Any other ideas?

"Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:

See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting...apeSection.htm

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA
http://word.mvps.org

"JGreg7" wrote in message
...
I have document that contains portrait style text and includes
a
multiple
page table (20 pages) that I need to display as landscape due
to
its
width,
but I still need to preserve the portrait style headers and
footers.
The
actual screen display does not matter as it will be printed
before
distribution.

Is there any way to rotate a multi-page table such that I can
still
edit
it
after insertion, and preserve the portrait style headers and
footers?

Windows XP SP2, Office 2003

Thank you, John Gregory



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